Heres a question for Gun advocates.
NOTLguy
Loc: Niagara on the Lake, Ontario
I can see that the issue of gun control isn't going to go away any time soon, so I would like to pose a question:
Do you believe that everyone should be allowed to carry guns on aeroplanes?
If yes, would you feel more or less safe flying than you do today?
If no, and you feel that flying would be more dangerous, then why not adopt the same rules for day-to day life on the streets?
I'm just asking :?:
No, I don't believe that is a right that should be exercised in an airplane, as it is not fair carry a torch around flammable liquids.
As for why,, it is simple. It is not reasonable to let people carry guns in an enclosure with pressure control and where people cannot run away for their safety. It is simple. The madman/woman would have control of many lives and they would have no chance. If all of them had guns... Pandemonium. I believe one has the right o protect oneself and family, but not at the expense of putting others in danger. That is what I consider fair and reasonable. that is why, since the wild wild west does not exist anymore, there should be more control of who can use guns. There are controls for drivers licenses, limited by knowledge of the law and physical fitness to drive. Same with guns! Same with guns!
I believe that anyone who wants to own firearms should be able to as long as they qualify.As far as everyone having guns on airplanes,seeing how people would be unable to run and take cover,its a bad idea.Another group that should not own firearms would be people who fear them due to ignorance.
The reason this issue will never be resolved, is that the majority of Americans seem to have an extremist mind set. This is not meant to be an anti American statement. It's just an observation based on what I've seen on this site and on the news. The pro-gun people seem to want no control at all, whilst the anti-gun people seem to want no guns at all. Anyone who suggests something in between is accused of "sitting on the fence". This mind set seems to cover most topics. For abortion, some will say it should be freely available on demand, whilst others say it should be stopped without question. This may just be because those with extreme views tend to shout loudest. I don't claim to know, but I'm just pointing out how it comes across to the rest of the world.
Not to mention the potential disaster of discharging a firearm in a pressurized passenger compartment and interfering with the airworthiness of the craft.
Remoman
Loc: Someplace Remote Near LA
pbearperry wrote:
I believe that anyone who wants to own firearms should be able to as long as they qualify.As far as everyone having guns on airplanes,seeing how people would be unable to run and take cover,its a bad idea.Another group that should not own firearms would be people who fear them due to ignorance.
"As far as everyone having guns on airplanes,seeing how people would be unable to run and take cover,its a bad idea."So if people are in a theatre or baseball stadium or hospital or church or wherever, where they
"would be unable to run and take cover", should the same rules apply?
Just askin.
If I was in one of the other scenerios you mentioned,I personally would be armed and would be able to shoot back if I couldn't escape,which would be my first option.
I can't speak for any other gun owners or their reasons to carry firearms.All I can say is that firearms have saved me personally several times.Now that I am an older gentleman and unable to run fast or far,I really need a gun to protect me.
Insofar as our 2nd Amendment is in place, and wasn't just tossed into the Constitution for grins and giggles, I think anyone who possesses a concealed carry permit should be able to take their firearm anywhere they wish. There is little or no evidence that permit holders are a danger to anyone, except the criminally inclined.
Remoman
Loc: Someplace Remote Near LA
Danilo wrote:
Insofar as our 2nd Amendment is in place, and wasn't just tossed into the Constitution for grins and giggles, I think anyone who possesses a concealed carry permit should be able to take their firearm anywhere they wish. There is little or no evidence that permit holders are a danger to anyone, except the criminally inclined.
I think you might want to consider the words of the gun holder who almost shot an innocent person at the scene of the Gabby Giffords incident in Arizona.
In an interview, he stated he was going to shoot the gun holder, who had just disarmed the shooter, until someone in the crowd stopped him.
He WAS going to shoot without knowing all the details.
Danilo wrote:
Insofar as our 2nd Amendment is in place, and wasn't just tossed into the Constitution for grins and giggles, I think anyone who possesses a concealed carry permit should be able to take their firearm anywhere they wish. There is little or no evidence that permit holders are a danger to anyone, except the criminally inclined.
Exactly! Can you detect the criminally inclined? Can the police? Children? Can anyone become criminally inclined when desperate or under duress?
NOTLguy wrote:
I can see that the issue of gun control isn't going to go away any time soon, so I would like to pose a question:
Do you believe that everyone should be allowed to carry guns on aeroplanes?
If yes, would you feel more or less safe flying than you do today?
If no, and you feel that flying would be more dangerous, then why not adopt the same rules for day-to day life on the streets?
I'm just asking :?:
Simple answer, No, not on an aircraft. Takes specialized training and frangible ammunition. It would be too easy for an untrained person to take the aircraft down. Day to day on the street, I personally feel that most permit holders need more intensive training to be able to carry. I have a CCW because of being an retired LEO but I don't routinely carry. Just don't feel the need.
krgatlgm wrote:
Simple answer, No, not on an aircraft. Takes specialized training and frangible ammunition. It would be too easy for an untrained person to take the aircraft down. Day to day on the street, I personally feel that most permit holders need more intensive training to be able to carry. I have a CCW because of being an retired LEO but I don't routinely carry. Just don't feel the need.
In preparation for a life-threatening circumstance, there can never be enough. So we DO have to employ practicality in there somewhere.
Remoman: If you're seeking a perfect world, you'll have to leave the human race out of the equation.
Remoman wrote:
Danilo wrote:
Insofar as our 2nd Amendment is in place, and wasn't just tossed into the Constitution for grins and giggles, I think anyone who possesses a concealed carry permit should be able to take their firearm anywhere they wish. There is little or no evidence that permit holders are a danger to anyone, except the criminally inclined.
I think you might want to consider the words of the gun holder who almost shot an innocent person at the scene of the Gabby Giffords incident in Arizona.
In an interview, he stated he was going to shoot the gun holder, who had just disarmed the shooter, until someone in the crowd stopped him.
He WAS going to shoot without knowing all the details.
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Being armed is primarily for self defense. Obviously his life was not being threatened at that moment and not properly identifying his target should not have fired. If he had and shot an innocent person, he would be facing the criminal system as he should.
there are some places you just don't discharge a firearm,it would be that kind of fool who would have it.
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