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Mar 7, 2013 14:17:13   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
CResQ wrote:
jerryc41 wrote:


EDIT: Running a cable from the wireless extender to the computer made no difference, so the wireless connection to the extender must be the bottleneck.


Correct Jerry, you answered your own question :thumbup:

I've been doing that more and more lately. "Now where did I put those car keys? Oh, there they are."

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Mar 7, 2013 22:27:31   #
Brian in Whitby Loc: Whitby, Ontario, Canada
 
I don't know why so many people depend on wireless networking. Wiring a network is dead easy. All you have to know is your colours. ANYONE who is smart enough to use manual settings on a camera is more than smart enough to wire a network. The hardest part of wiring a home network is getting the cable from A to B. For that you use the attic or basement or crawl space. If you have a two story house, it is a little more difficult but usually still doable. IF for some reason it is impossible to run cable you can always use power line networking.

The only reason I can think of to use wireless networking is so you can use your laptop where you have not run cable.

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Mar 7, 2013 22:52:20   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Brian in Whitby wrote:
I don't know why so many people depend on wireless networking. Wiring a network is dead easy. All you have to know is your colours. ANYONE who is smart enough to use manual settings on a camera is more than smart enough to wire a network. The hardest part of wiring a home network is getting the cable from A to B. For that you use the attic or basement or crawl space. If you have a two story house, it is a little more difficult but usually still doable. IF for some reason it is impossible to run cable you can always use power line networking.

The only reason I can think of to use wireless networking is so you can use your laptop where you have not run cable.
I don't know why so many people depend on wireless... (show quote)

Right. Wireless is great for the laptop and iPad. The computer in the living room isn't used very much, and I would have to drill through three walls and loop the cable over two doorways. It's fine the way it is.

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Mar 7, 2013 23:18:15   #
Brian in Whitby Loc: Whitby, Ontario, Canada
 
You can't run the cable below the floor?
Sometimes it can't be done but it usually is possible.

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Mar 7, 2013 23:22:03   #
bunuweld Loc: Arizona
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Brian in Whitby wrote:
I don't know why so many people depend on wireless networking. Wiring a network is dead easy. All you have to know is your colours. ANYONE who is smart enough to use manual settings on a camera is more than smart enough to wire a network. The hardest part of wiring a home network is getting the cable from A to B. For that you use the attic or basement or crawl space. If you have a two story house, it is a little more difficult but usually still doable. IF for some reason it is impossible to run cable you can always use power line networking.

The only reason I can think of to use wireless networking is so you can use your laptop where you have not run cable.
I don't know why so many people depend on wireless... (show quote)

Right. Wireless is great for the laptop and iPad. The computer in the living room isn't used very much, and I would have to drill through three walls and loop the cable over two doorways. It's fine the way it is.
quote=Brian in Whitby I don't know why so many pe... (show quote)


A good alternative is using the cable that all of us have in our dwellings. I mean the electrical power lines. There are a number of adapters that will allow the various computers to communicate with one another. One adapter is connected to an electrical outlet and ethernet-connected to the router. the other adapters are plugged at the convenient outlets to get wired to the computers in that location..I have my different rooms "wired' that way and am happy with it. The electrical current does not interfere with the router frequencies. Here is a link:

http://reviews.cnet.com/2733-3243_7-568-8.html

I have used the adapters from Netgear for more than one year with not a single problem and more reliable than WI-FI. The only reservation would be to use it in an apartment where power lines may be shared by other apartments as well.

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Mar 8, 2013 01:35:54   #
FilmFanatic Loc: Waikato, New Zealand
 
Just a note, you can easily see the connection rate of your wireless by holding down the Option key while clicking the WiFi icon on the menu bar. That will show Transmit Rate which is your link speed. I am 20 feet from an Airport Express and currently showing 162 which is way faster than the 100 meg wired networks I am used to....

Also, what encryption are you using? When I had TP-Link gear set up so I had an access point acting as an extender, the only encryption I could use was WEP, and unfortunately WEP can be broken in about ten seconds by someone even slightly skilled. I would advise extreme caution using an extender if you have to use WEP, especially if someone uses your connection to download something they shouldn't, you will get pinged as it's coming from your network...

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Mar 8, 2013 06:38:13   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
bunuweld wrote:
jerryc41 wrote:
Brian in Whitby wrote:
I don't know why so many people depend on wireless networking. Wiring a network is dead easy. All you have to know is your colours. ANYONE who is smart enough to use manual settings on a camera is more than smart enough to wire a network. The hardest part of wiring a home network is getting the cable from A to B. For that you use the attic or basement or crawl space. If you have a two story house, it is a little more difficult but usually still doable. IF for some reason it is impossible to run cable you can always use power line networking.

The only reason I can think of to use wireless networking is so you can use your laptop where you have not run cable.
I don't know why so many people depend on wireless... (show quote)

Right. Wireless is great for the laptop and iPad. The computer in the living room isn't used very much, and I would have to drill through three walls and loop the cable over two doorways. It's fine the way it is.
quote=Brian in Whitby I don't know why so many pe... (show quote)


A good alternative is using the cable that all of us have in our dwellings. I mean the electrical power lines. There are a number of adapters that will allow the various computers to communicate with one another. One adapter is connected to an electrical outlet and ethernet-connected to the router. the other adapters are plugged at the convenient outlets to get wired to the computers in that location..I have my different rooms "wired' that way and am happy with it. The electrical current does not interfere with the router frequencies. Here is a link:

http://reviews.cnet.com/2733-3243_7-568-8.html

I have used the adapters from Netgear for more than one year with not a single problem and more reliable than WI-FI. The only reservation would be to use it in an apartment where power lines may be shared by other apartments as well.
quote=jerryc41 quote=Brian in Whitby I don't kno... (show quote)

That's a clever idea, but for this computer, download speed isn't that big a deal. I doubt that I would get $120 of value from this. Also, I tried intercoms that use home wiring, and they were very particular about where they were plugged in. Maybe we have strange wiring. :D

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Mar 8, 2013 07:28:51   #
bunuweld Loc: Arizona
 
jerryc41 wrote:
bunuweld wrote:
jerryc41 wrote:
Brian in Whitby wrote:
I don't know why so many people depend on wireless networking. Wiring a network is dead easy. All you have to know is your colours. ANYONE who is smart enough to use manual settings on a camera is more than smart enough to wire a network. The hardest part of wiring a home network is getting the cable from A to B. For that you use the attic or basement or crawl space. If you have a two story house, it is a little more difficult but usually still doable. IF for some reason it is impossible to run cable you can always use power line networking.

The only reason I can think of to use wireless networking is so you can use your laptop where you have not run cable.
I don't know why so many people depend on wireless... (show quote)

Right. Wireless is great for the laptop and iPad. The computer in the living room isn't used very much, and I would have to drill through three walls and loop the cable over two doorways. It's fine the way it is.
quote=Brian in Whitby I don't know why so many pe... (show quote)


A good alternative is using the cable that all of us have in our dwellings. I mean the electrical power lines. There are a number of adapters that will allow the various computers to communicate with one another. One adapter is connected to an electrical outlet and ethernet-connected to the router. the other adapters are plugged at the convenient outlets to get wired to the computers in that location..I have my different rooms "wired' that way and am happy with it. The electrical current does not interfere with the router frequencies. Here is a link:

http://reviews.cnet.com/2733-3243_7-568-8.html

I have used the adapters from Netgear for more than one year with not a single problem and more reliable than WI-FI. The only reservation would be to use it in an apartment where power lines may be shared by other apartments as well.
quote=jerryc41 quote=Brian in Whitby I don't kno... (show quote)

That's a clever idea, but for this computer, download speed isn't that big a deal. I doubt that I would get $120 of value from this. Also, I tried intercoms that use home wiring, and they were very particular about where they were plugged in. Maybe we have strange wiring. :D
quote=bunuweld quote=jerryc41 quote=Brian in Wh... (show quote)


Jerry. From what you describe about your computer, agree that the change might not be worth the $120.Because of the different frequencies used , the intercoms are subject to all kinds of interferences; even fluorescent lines will will interfere with the sounds. The powerline network adapters transmit frequencies that don't get affected by the electrical current. I use my "wired"system while having all kinds of lights and electric appliances going and nothing appears to interfere with internet communication anywhere in the house.

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Mar 8, 2013 07:32:45   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
bunuweld wrote:
jerryc41 wrote:
bunuweld wrote:
jerryc41 wrote:
Brian in Whitby wrote:
I don't know why so many people depend on wireless networking. Wiring a network is dead easy. All you have to know is your colours. ANYONE who is smart enough to use manual settings on a camera is more than smart enough to wire a network. The hardest part of wiring a home network is getting the cable from A to B. For that you use the attic or basement or crawl space. If you have a two story house, it is a little more difficult but usually still doable. IF for some reason it is impossible to run cable you can always use power line networking.

The only reason I can think of to use wireless networking is so you can use your laptop where you have not run cable.
I don't know why so many people depend on wireless... (show quote)

Right. Wireless is great for the laptop and iPad. The computer in the living room isn't used very much, and I would have to drill through three walls and loop the cable over two doorways. It's fine the way it is.
quote=Brian in Whitby I don't know why so many pe... (show quote)


A good alternative is using the cable that all of us have in our dwellings. I mean the electrical power lines. There are a number of adapters that will allow the various computers to communicate with one another. One adapter is connected to an electrical outlet and ethernet-connected to the router. the other adapters are plugged at the convenient outlets to get wired to the computers in that location..I have my different rooms "wired' that way and am happy with it. The electrical current does not interfere with the router frequencies. Here is a link:

http://reviews.cnet.com/2733-3243_7-568-8.html

I have used the adapters from Netgear for more than one year with not a single problem and more reliable than WI-FI. The only reservation would be to use it in an apartment where power lines may be shared by other apartments as well.
quote=jerryc41 quote=Brian in Whitby I don't kno... (show quote)

That's a clever idea, but for this computer, download speed isn't that big a deal. I doubt that I would get $120 of value from this. Also, I tried intercoms that use home wiring, and they were very particular about where they were plugged in. Maybe we have strange wiring. :D
quote=bunuweld quote=jerryc41 quote=Brian in Wh... (show quote)


Jerry. From what you describe about your computer, agree that the change might not be worth the $120.Because of the different frequencies used , the intercoms are subject to all kinds of interferences; even fluorescent lines will will interfere with the sounds. The powerline network adapters transmit frequencies that don't get affected by the electrical current. I use my "wired"system while having all kinds of lights and electric appliances going and nothing appears to interfere with internet communication anywhere in the house.
quote=jerryc41 quote=bunuweld quote=jerryc41 q... (show quote)

The intercoms are supposed to be connected to the same circuit, and I think that's where the problem lies. I'll have to play around with them again.

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Mar 8, 2013 08:26:06   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
bunuweld wrote:


A good alternative is using the cable that all of us have in our dwellings. I mean the electrical power lines. The electrical current does not interfere with the router frequencies. Here is a link:

http://reviews.cnet.com/2733-3243_7-568-8.html

I have used the adapters from Netgear for more than one year with not a single problem and more reliable than WI-FI. The only reservation would be to use it in an apartment where power lines may be shared by other apartments as well.
br br A good alternative is using the cable that... (show quote)

This setup requires two of these, at $120 each, and it doesn't look they are available. I'm not about to go that route, but I was just looking, since the video review said that two are required. Web sites often show two units because they want to show different views, but this comes one per package.

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Mar 8, 2013 12:51:19   #
bunuweld Loc: Arizona
 
jerryc41 wrote:
bunuweld wrote:


A good alternative is using the cable that all of us have in our dwellings. I mean the electrical power lines. The electrical current does not interfere with the router frequencies. Here is a link:

http://reviews.cnet.com/2733-3243_7-568-8.html

I have used the adapters from Netgear for more than one year with not a single problem and more reliable than WI-FI. The only reservation would be to use it in an apartment where power lines may be shared by other apartments as well.
br br A good alternative is using the cable that... (show quote)

This setup requires two of these, at $120 each, and it doesn't look they are available. I'm not about to go that route, but I was just looking, since the video review said that two are required. Web sites often show two units because they want to show different views, but this comes one per package.
quote=bunuweld br br A good alternative is usin... (show quote)


Two are required. One to connect with an Ethernet cable to the router at one end and to the regular wall electrical outlet at the other end (no surge protector should be used instead of the regular electrical outlet). The other unit can be plugged to whichever electrical outlet is closest the second computer. This computer has to be connected as well by Ethernet cable to the second unit. If more than two computers are being used, one additional unit for each additional computer is needed. I have four computers at home in different locations and they all work fine with this arrangement. I don't think this relatively new system has become popular yet, but it sure beats WI-FI when the there are obstructing walls or other interfering factors, and it also is simpler than extending cables through the attic or or other areas. I am surprised about the price you mention. I paid about $120 for a pair about one year ago

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Mar 9, 2013 17:21:49   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Brian in Whitby wrote:
You can't run the cable below the floor?
Sometimes it can't be done but it usually is possible.

No basement - concrete slab.

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