lovesphotos Loc: Colorado and Arizona

Gun buyback programs of some Cities.
Personally, I strongly believe it is a bunch of stuff that comes out of the southern end of a bull who is northbound. We do not know the mechanics of it. Only thing stated in all cases is, so many guns were turned in, and no real word as to where they went. There is no accounting. Makes one wonder, how many people who don't care to own guns or inherited them, turned in some very valuable weapons and where they went. It is great way to get rid of evidence for the criminals. How many collector items find their way back to market, making some big bucks for the insiders.
I wish I had a couple of million extra bucks to set up a program like this. I'd probably have some of the finest collections around.
This program is nothing but a "feek good" program by the do-gooders.

So, tell me what you think.

Sorry, the title has a typo, (my fault not to have read it)

Bruce with a Canon Loc: Islip

For my part, the guns I have had were for the most part utilitarian, marlin levers for brush and bush hunting,
Remington bolt actions for long hunting, couple scatter guns for birds and one 338 magnum autoloader for dangerous game.
Here and there I picked up a comemoritive gun for the sake of it.
I know folks that own one gun for perforating paper at long range. I have a couple TC Contenders for hand gun hunting and silhoutte plinking, 35 remington, .30-30 ( OUCH) 44 mag.

I know one gentleman ( senior to my 6 decades) that has not fired a gun since his service in the pacific in WWII, yet has over 300 various weapons, mostly unique, rare, collectibles, a few wall hangers like Jap, German and Russian pieces. When asked why he dosen't shoot, he simply said he had had enough shooting. He does however appreciate the asthetics, beauty and history.
He has several drillings, a 4 bore shotgun, and about ev ery military weapon one could look for from Nambu to most ever Mauser ever produced.

As for the Government and guns, I am curiuous to know how and why this administration sold assualt weapons to mexican criminals yet have a problem with law abiding citizens to defend ourselves and use our weapons for all legal purposes.
"Gun Buy Back" programs is a feel good walk and talk, it simply does not lower crime., Simply a show with out substatnce or consequence.

TucsonCoyote Loc: Tucson AZ

Yes unfortunately there are lots of questions with these buy back programs and they don't amount to anything percentage wise when compared to all the guns and ammo bought up by the people directly after the last 2 presidential elections !
People are edgy with this guy in power and the press isn't helping out any as you know.
The feel good crowd is going to descend on this thread soon and call us all sortsa names ! lol
A friend of mine couldn't even buy a brick of 22 LR last Saturday to go plinking.....stores are empty!

MJL Loc: Wild Rose, Wisconsin

My reply is short and sweet. Gun buy back = BS. :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

UP-2-IT Loc: RED STICK, LA

You say you don't know much about it yet instead of reading up on the program you would rather sit there and bitch and cry in your beer about it. Then you end your rant with making unncessary references to the 9individuals that started and ran the program.
For your information all serials numbers were taken and checked against any records and then the guns were cut up using torches.

rcirr Loc: Gilbert, Arizona

That's great! Now, Is it your belief that the nuts and sadistic murderers will all turn their guns in? Do you really believe the people that voluntarily turned in their weapons were a threat to society? I wonder if there will be any seller's remorse if someone breaks into the seller's house to rob them?

Danilo Loc: Las Vegas

I don't see any negative aspects to a gun buy-back program, provided it is not funded with taxpayer money. As long as the sellers are willing, and not coerced, there's no harm done.
If the buyers are pleased with their efforts, and used their own money, there is, again, no harm done.
Do I think gun buy-back programs are stupid and non-productive? Yup.

billypip Loc: nottingham England

probably your governments stealth attempt to disarm its people, just a thought.

Photogdog Loc: New Kensington, PA

Locally, the buy back programs have yielded nothing more than junk guns that would probably blow up in your hands before landing a shot. The few that are worth anything are usually traded in to either sepaerate them from a shooter who has committed a serious crime or to to get money to buy drugs.

The real problem here is that the people who turn in guns aren't the ones you have to to worry about.

Criminals, by definition, don't obey the law. If someone goes out and commits murder, rape, armed robbery or kidnapping with an illegal firearm, getting caught with an illegal firearm is the least of their worries. They're facing far more serious charges than having a bogus gun.

Black Bart Loc: Indiana

Gun shop owners love the buy back program.
My local gun shop will use old broken guns for parts to repair others what is left after removing internal parts are saved till a buyback program comes along.
Sells a worthless piece of junk for $200.00
He really makes a bundle on these programs.

donrent Loc: Punta Gorda , Fl

Fur me, its a thimg of cow patties on a hot day !!!!

charlie Loc: Minneapolis, Minnesota

Aaaahhhhhh--- We don't know that.

digiman Loc: Brooklyn, NY/Greenville, SC

The guns are part of the Fast and Furious program.

charlie Loc: Minneapolis, Minnesota

“The guns typically surrendered in gun buy-backs are those that are least likely to be used in criminal activities,” the report says. “Old, malfunctioning guns whose resale value is less than the reward offered in buy-back programs or guns owned by individuals who derive little value from the possession of guns (e.g. those who have inherited guns).”

ole sarg Loc: south florida

In CA the stats for gun usage in crime in 2010 are as follows:

Of the 175 firearms reported, there were 158 (90.3 percent) handguns, 12 (6.9 percent)
rifles, 4 (2.3 percent) shotguns, and 1 (0.6 percent) full-auto firearm. Of these 175
firearms, 9 (5.1 percent) were assault weapons (as defined in California Penal Code
section 12276) and none were classified as short-barreled shotguns or rifles. The most
commonly encountered caliber was 9 mm Luger, followed by 45 Automatic Colt Pistol
(ACP), 40 Smith and Wesson (S&W), and 380 Automatic.

Firearms Used in the Commission of Crimes Report - Attorney General
oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/pdfs/publications/Firearms_Report_10.pdfFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View

So the belief that criminals are out there shooting up the streets and using fire arms in the commission of a crime is a myth. (Chicago is the anomaly)

Of course it is a great myth being used by the NRA in order to enhance the sales of its benefactors the arms industry. But, that is OK if you want to go out and buy a pistol to have it lay in a drawer that is your business. Just yesterday some lady was playing with her gun here in So. Fla and shot and killed herself.

Most of the guns that are turned in are from poor neighborhoods and are the ones most likely to be stolen.
Some 10-15% of guns used in crime are stolen weapons.

www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/guns/procon/guns.html"Stolen guns account for only about 10% to 15% of guns used in crimes,"

In 1993 which is awhile ago but the stats seem to be consistent over decades when it comes to crime in the US.
"In 1993, the FBI's Crime in the United States estimated that almost 2 million violent crimes of murder, rape, robbery and aggravated assault were reported to the police by citizens. About 582,000 of these reported murders, robberies, and aggravated assaults were committed with firearms. Murder was the crime that most frequently involved firearms; 70% of the 24,526 murders in 1993 were committed with firearms. BTW baseball bats, knives, lead pipes, etc were just as available but guns were the weapon of choice. So lets drop that argument right off.

It should be noted that the murder of a family member is considered a crime and most murders are within the families or committed by relations or "friends". So if you are the kind of person who loses control I would urge you to get rid of the gun! Again the stats are old but little has changed.

A survey of murder cases disposed
in 1988 in the courts of large urban
counties indicated that 16% of murder
victims were members of the defendant's
family. The remainder were murdered by
friends or acquaintances (64%) or by
strangers (20%). BJS.gov

I would urge one to carefully pick one's mate and be selective in your choice of friends.

BTW these two articles are very good.

http://www.firearmsid.com/feature%20articles/0900guic/guns%20used%20in%20crime.htm

I just heard on the radio that gun deaths in the US have now surpassed auto deaths. I guess the governments mandating safety features like seat belts, air bags, and other electronic measures to prevent skids and collisions has paid off. But, try to regulate gun safety and you are trampling on the rights of the gun owner and to hell with those who don't own guns.

HOW STUPID CAN WE BE!