This has been a great thread, thanks everyone. Anyone care to comment about the new slower 18-55mm kit lens that Canon has released along with this slew of new models?

Canon has just released three new cameras the EOS M6 mirrorless and 2 DSLRS, the 800D/Rebel T7i and the 77D. The 800D/T7i I understand, because it is in every way an upgrade to its predecessor, the T6i/750D. But the 77D? Numerically, it positions itself between the 70D and the 80D and it is supposedly a prosumer level camera, yet it is not an upgrade to either. It has better processor and software than either, but it has a Rebel level of battery, Rebel level of continuous shooting speed and no weatherproofing. So what is it, exactly? Some say it is a T7s/760D upgrade, which makes sense on the one hand, but why on earth use the prosumer naming convention? It's as though someone put a few bells and whistles onto a VW Passat and tried to pass it off as an Audi.

And then what on earth are they doing with the lenses? Together with these two new cameras, Canon has released and upgraded 18-55mm kit lens, but one that has a maximum aperture of F4.0, rather than F3.5. I know the lens is slightly smaller than its predecessor, but how on earth can you call a slower lens an upgrade?

Personally, I think Canon have regressed with this one.