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Apr 20, 2017 17:20:34   #
pithydoug wrote:
So some of us took the time to learn to use LR and that makes us snobs, aka self education is snobbery? Because we disagree we are wrong? Some people go to school and eat the books!


Hey, if you are one who comes off as a snob, well, as they say, if the shoe fits.

Enough of this. I stated my experience. No one can deny there are many who have tried it, don't like it for a variety of reasons, and now use any one of the excellent alternatives out there. I'll also say that for the professional, it's probably a must. But I stand by what I say. Some, and it's not many and I won't name names, come off as real jerks toward those who don't think the way they do or might be having a problem. This is the nature of online forums like this where people can hide behind their computers and say things, or put people down in ways they would never do to their face.
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Apr 20, 2017 15:38:59   #
tdekany wrote:
You most likely mean "me" except that I am far from "know it all", but just as the OP's case, people with external hard drives, many time several of them being used, it is easy to blame the program and it may NOT be the program. The way I read your post is that LR is so bad that it isn't worth using it.

So how are so many able to use LR without issues?

Bottom line? It isn't as bad as you make it sound like. Did you expect everyone to agree with you?


Just getting my thoughts and experience out. I really don't give a flying f*k whether you or anyone else agrees with me. You are just proving my point about the nose in the air snobs infesting this forum.
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Apr 20, 2017 10:58:16   #
tomcat wrote:
Jump down off that high horse, dude. I was not referring to you at all. I was generalizing about the silly folks that jump into LR without taking time to learn it's peculiarities. You know from your experiences how many people jump right into stuff and never read instruction manuals. It wasn't my intention to criticize you with name-calling, just that you are seemingly a control-minded person from that post a page or two back (when you said you wanted to know where everything is). I enjoy your posts and laugh with you quite a lot over the "humor" that gets posted here.

If I insulted you, I apologize, but I was not directing the comments at you. Just the idiots that don't learn to use LR before jumping in. It is not an intuitive piece of software and you have to trust it's hierarchy.
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Sorry, reading what I said I can see where you thought it was directed toward you. Actually I appreciated your comment. I think you know the one's I'm referring to.
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Apr 20, 2017 05:48:39   #
tomcat wrote:
Or user idiot-syncracies.....


Or just maybe it was a problem peculiar to my computer and LR that just didn't work. Of course I don't expect snobbish know-it-all's to except that. It's much easier to infer someone is just too ignorant or stupid to use LR. How soon they forget about the countless posts on this forum from others who have had problems with LR. But, then again, I suppose those people are just not as bright as the chosen elite name callers who infest this forum.
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Apr 19, 2017 22:06:37   #
tdekany wrote:
Not a good way to judge LR. It has the largest user base for a reason and Adobe is breaking sales records. There is a reason for that. At some point you should realize that maybe, just maybe the issues are due to user errors.


No, not user error. Enough said.
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Apr 19, 2017 19:16:25   #
Dbrogers wrote:
I posted a few days ago about having question marks next to my files from my external HD. I have tried about everything to connect back to LR with no success. I did the locate routine and it worked till I closed LR and when I opened it back up all the question marks were back, and it won't let me do it again. One thing I was reading about was doing a right click on the folder and choose "Hide This Parent" then click on the external HD folder and choose "Hide This Parent". At some point everything will disappear from the folders panel. Then restart LR and everything should come back to normal. Anyone ever try this and had any success. Sounds a little scary to me but I'm getting desperate at this time.
What are the odds of calling Adobe and having any luck? Are they good to work with? I was also wondering if you can just start all over with LR and reload all my files from my external HD?
Any suggestions on something other than LR, I do have PS.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
I posted a few days ago about having question mar... (show quote)


This is just one reason why I will never use Lightroom. Everything I see posted here sounds like a royal pain with cataloging. LR just takes over. I don't want that. In fact, I don't want any program cataloging my photos for me. Seriously, the only time I tried Lightroom it screwed up my computer so bad that I had to reformat my hard drive and re-install Windows. Never again. Not worth the headaches.
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Apr 17, 2017 18:44:49   #
Shot with a Nikon D3100, 55-300 VR Kit Lens at 170mm through a nasty old single pane, unwashed window from about 20 feet away. I think it came out reasonable.


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Apr 16, 2017 13:35:29   #
jerryc41 wrote:
I can see lots of objections to that. I don't like the computer-doctors at all, though. Now, I see the back of my doctor's head and hear his voice as he asks me questions he reads off his computer. There is always a struggle or two to get things entered. The last time I went for my physical, I was given a couple of sheets of questions to answer in the waiting room. The doctor used to ask me those in person. I can see a time in the future when the patient will plug himself in at home, data fill flow somewhere, and the insurance company will start looking for excuses to drop us.
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One of many reasons I don't go to the doctor. They get their claws into you, find all kinds of reasons to push more pills at you, and demand you come back every three months or sooner. The only thing I take is thyroid since I had mine removed due to thyroid cancer back in 1978. I aim to keep it that way until I croak.
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Apr 16, 2017 08:10:02   #
jerryc41 wrote:
Oh, how I wish I had learned touch-typing when I was younger. I envy people whose fingers fly over the keys with them even looking. As it is, I can type fast, but I have to look, and my fingers often pick up extra letters, so I have to go back and delete them. At least 'spelling correction' helps me to see and correct my errors. So how do you people do at the keyboard?


I learned to type in school back in the 60s. Best thing I ever did. I got to where I could type over 100 words a minute. The fingers aren't quite as fast today, but, I still type fast using all of my fingers and never having to look at the keyboard. Do they even teach typing today in schools?
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Apr 2, 2017 17:54:29   #
drklrd wrote:
Yes you can open a jpeg in raw and yes you are editing a jpeg and as far as I know in Adobe raw. When it comes to saving the jpeg at the end of the edit Adobe asks what to save the file as and I save it to another drive using the same file name as the original jpeg. At no time does Adobe convert the file to raw. Although Adobe does ask you what to save the file as. I was just saying you can open a jpeg in Adobe raw and edit it there to some extent.


OK, now that makes sense. It was just worded a bit odd before. I'll stop pulling my hair out now. I obviously don't have much to spare.
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Apr 2, 2017 17:24:54   #
drklrd wrote:
I am a pro and in one week I will shoot over a few thousand images. I have considered shooting in raw but time constraints to upload at the studio and the fact that the studio wants jpegs for yearbook work keeps me shooting jpegs. I shoot over a few thousand jpegs every week when the work load is high. I prefer to spend my time shooting and beside I can do some raw editing when I open a jpeg in raw. The only time I have done that is when I thought the shots at the bowling were a little thin. I did a batch in Adobe to adjust exposure and then saved them as new jpegs and the studio knew nothing of the edit. I do so prefer to turn all my work in not needing an edit as I did in film days. Shooting jpegs reminds me of shooting Ektachrome with just a smidge more room than Ektachrome gave me. Sorry folks I preferred Ektachrome to Kodachrome. I shot a lot of slide shows back then.
Maybe if you have the time to sit and fudge with editing until you tweek the H out it, raw is great but if you find you want to shoot it and make images quickly I say go ahead and perfect your skill in jpegs. Either way you go perfecting the exposure will be great even if you shoot raw.
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Hate to be nitpicking here, but, you may be a pro but what you said tells me you don't really understand RAW. You said, "I can do some raw editing when I open a jpeg in raw". I don't even know what that means. On face value it seems you are saying you can take JPG, open it in RAW (?) then edit it like a RAW file. If you only have a JPG, you don't have a RAW file to work with. Yes, you can open a JPG in an editor that edits RAW, but, you are still only editing the JPG. OK, I'll stop pulling my hair out through frustration now.
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Apr 2, 2017 13:48:23   #
viscountdriver wrote:
In the last few weeks I have read numerous article on Raw versus JPG. Then I took hundreds of pictures in both formats.I knew enthusiasts swear by RAW but I reached a conclusion. For the average amateur JPG Fine is what they should shoot.I have Corel Paint Brush Pro and this gives me tremendous opportunity to manipulate my shots and the average photographer would not be skill full enough to do the same in RAW. I don't need telling all the advantages of RAW and if I were a professional or a semi-professional I would use it.
I know a lot of people do not rate Ken Rockwell but he has the same conclusion.
Moden programmes made by Adobe,Serif and Corel are so good that is all the average shooter needs.
Finally,of course I can get more on my memory card as Raw does use a lot of space.
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To each his own, but, I'm not a professional or semi-professional. I've been shooting exclusively RAW (NEF) since it became available to me. I taught myself to use Nikon Capture NX2 for post processing. I can process a RAW image just as quickly as a JPG and get better results since the RAW file has a lot more data to work with. Not sure what you mean by an "average photographer, but, that's kind of a slap in the face to infer they are too stupid to learn RAW processing. It isn't rocket science.
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Mar 20, 2017 12:59:03   #
Peterff wrote:
Perhaps we should just put up signs to the recommended selfie location, it might thin the crowd a little!

Or suggest that it's really cool to get a selfie on rail road tracks in every place you visit, it's a once in a life time opportunity...
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Look at the two ladies on the rock. They are dancing and having a great time. No fear. In the second shot, one guy is crawling and the other has gone as far as he's going to go. Totally petrified.
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Mar 15, 2017 16:26:10   #
Just a quick observation that has been brought up many times before. Will many of you please start using the "Quote Reply" button when answering someone so we know who it is directed to. Some of these responses, without the context of who it is directed at, make no sense at all.

Just a tip to make these forums work better.
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Mar 15, 2017 14:32:02   #
Bill_de wrote:
Yeah, but if you had a D7 that first picture would have been Saturn with all its rings. The second one would have been a Bengal Tiger. You obviously need new equipment.

Seriously, like I said above, the proof is in the puddin. These are both very nice photos, no matter what camera you used.

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Bengal Tiger taken with same camera and lens. LOL! Sorry, just had to do this.


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