wylie wrote:
rts2568 wrote:
sheryloneal wrote:
rts2568 wrote:
sheryloneal wrote:
rts2568 wrote:
sheryloneal wrote:
I still like rts2568 the best. Pic dudes is really good too.
To Sheryloneal
From rts2568
Thanks Sheryl the feedback is appreciated, confirms that someone is watching.
The real lesson there though, was the point that the original imagery was not sharp. Now whether that came from the download to UHH, as one I tried last night to do and which came out on UHH as a complete disaster; or if the original shot was not sharp in the first place, is anybody's guess, other than the OP.
Thanks anyway Sheryl,
rts2568
PS - Sorry Sheryl, are you talking about the deer or the mother, we have a parallel running link here.
Whichever I suppose, it doesn't really matter as neither could be finished off because of the underlying problems.
rts2568
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I'm talking about the mother one. I agree with you about the sharpness and clarity of the original. Its an old pic. I should have been more complete with my opinion. Yours gave the photo an almost "painted" appearance. With all the damage that was done, to me, came out looking the best with what was left of the photo to work with. If I was to restore it I would have done the same as you but done it all over. Make it more uniform. It had a more "intended" look about it. Like brush strokes not blended completely because the artist was going for that certain look.
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Fron rts2568
Thanks for clearing that up Sheryl. After sending my question to you I realised there are three examples in this thread - getting very complicated.
You are right though, I think mine is best also but then, I would, wouldn't I? Only you and me though, so we seem to be a minority - never mind eh?
Ok, mine is/was un unfinished by far but at the time I felt the best advice that could've been given was to help Harvie through to the learning of his own version of Photoshop, however, I'd not realised he only had an SE version of Photoshop which does limit the tools functions. Maybe he will go for the full version some time and benefit from learning to do his own retouching: or download something like GIMP to put him on the right path.
The Sepia too, needs to be dropped, especially now that we know the original was in B&W. Mother will have remembered this one in its original state too, so in B&W it should be, unless she requested otherwise; Mothers being what they are though, who'se to know.
This theme has brought out the best and the worst and also hopefully, will have been a learning experience for many; here's to the latter.
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Thanks rts.
Im still using Picasa so what im learning from everyone here is awesome.
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to Sheryl
From rts2568
Hi again Sheryl,
Some people sware by Picasa, so all I can say is for you to practice, then practice some more, it is quite a useful application and one that easily gives you the first step up towards rewarding post processing.
Wish you luck with it.
rts2568
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You folks have to be kidding about Picasa, or what ever it's called. And you must be using PC's. Get yourself a Mac, get the cobwebs out of your wallet and you might find enough scratch to purchase some real software (Photoshop) and let you imagination show you what is possible. Picasa! How '70's . . .
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To Wylie
From rts2568
Everyones got to start somewhere Wylie, and I know a local 'Professional Photographer' who still uses Picasa as his editing tool, but then he, unlike you perhaps, takes care with his technique and composition so probably doesn't need too much post retouching. He nodoubt, unlike you, knows how to use Picasa, his camera equipment and other accessories, so he knows what he wants from Picasa and gets it to do it, like others with the likes of that very versatile editing software called GIMP; and others you'll find when you big head comes back to Earth.
Besides, you need to come out of your spaceship of fantasy and take a history lesson, Picassa didn't exist in the 70s, neither did Photoshop! Oh, and you may have missed out while you were out there amongst the stars, that we unfortunate Earthlings didn't have digital cameras in the 70s, nothing of any practical use anyway that I know of.
Drop your arrogant, self interested attitude and learn some empathy for other starters and strugglers on UHH. Given time, perhaps a hundred years or so you might be able to come up with something constructive and helpful in a practical way to help others. you might like to suggest for instance that learning to use their camera equipment better first, is far better than spending on overpriced, editing software. Oh no, you can't, its already been mentioned. Sorry about that, perhaps you can come with something else maybe? If you can find a thinnking cap that fits of course.
So where are your examples of camparrison of why Picasa is so undesirable, compared to the version of photoshop that you use. Now that just might help UHHers think just how much better it would be for them to change the bank they use, to a more generous one and just pop over to the Adobe platform.
Oh, just another point you need to become aware of. photoshop works on Windows systems just as well as it does on the twice as pricey Apple machines. I do agree with you though, the Macs are a better machine in some ways but not at the difference they charge for a relatively similar set up. In that they are a bit like Adobe's greedy marketing strategies.
The abominable pricing of Photoshop by Adobe is a very acrid turn off for many - just compare the prices of current Photoshop products around the World and explain to those who would like to have and use Photoshop, why Americans can buy for half the price of Autralians - as just one example. And, this is not to mention their turn off policy of upgrading - talk about a bright flashing light pointing to the like of Picasa and other free downloadables, or the large and increasing cheaper products. If Adobe stopped being so damn greedy and incompetant in their marketing, I'd suggest that the increasing majority of freebie and other cheaper editing products' users would soon switch to Photoshop with Adobe not losing any income either.
rts2568
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