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Jan 11, 2018 15:49:59   #
rpavich wrote:
Sure, upgrading makes sense if his camera isnt doing something that he’s repeatedly wanted it to do but he didn’t say that that was the case. Also, from my experience on the ‘hog, folks just have g.a.s. and aren't really solving a problem.


Indeed it is GAS that is motivating me. However, the specs on the 6D are impressive. The Sensor is a significant upgrade, not only in ISO, but IQ. The mega pixels are almost twice those on the 5D. AND it has WiFi and GPS. Granted I may never use the WiFi, but it is nice to have the option.
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Jan 11, 2018 14:34:14   #
I wanna trade up on some of my camera bodies. Unfortunately though, Money $$$ is a major concern. Currently, I have a Canon 7D, which is in good shape, a little scuffing on the body, but the images are still great. I am not sure of the shutter count. I have a friend who will give me $350 for it in cash. Then again, I have a Canon 5D mk i. It too is in good shape. I am not sure what I can get for it, maybe another $350. Finally, and this one is the keeper, a new 70D.

I don’t need 3 Camera bodies and want to get rid of the first 2, but...I want a full frame and crop one too. I have done a little reading and by specs, I like the Canon EOS 6D.

So, my plan is to sell the 7D and 5D, to help finance the 6D.

What do you think about my logic, such as it is?

olc
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Dec 25, 2017 10:12:52   #
Bill_de wrote:
For correct answers go directly to the Luminar site.

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As usual, I jumped before doing any research.
I did go to their site and got my answer. Although it was vague, they did say that DAM will be available in the new year. One wonders when. Also, the thought of using a version one of any software makes me nervous.
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Dec 25, 2017 10:06:46   #
PaulB wrote:
Consider the Sigma 10-20 mm. It is fairly inexpensive and good quality. I don't think you will be disappointed.


Sir, with all due respect, I think the OP is using Both Crop and full Frame cameras. I believe the sigma is an APC lens, Great for the 70D, not s much for the 5D he is sporting.
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Dec 25, 2017 09:28:40   #
lwerthe1mer wrote:
I recently purchased Luminar 2018. I love the result I am getting and find the program very user friendly. Someone said the support is lacking, but I have found the company very responsive to a few inquiries I have sent them.


I have been thinking about Luminar, but want to have a program with Digital Asset Management (DAM). Does Luminar have that?
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Dec 24, 2017 16:46:44   #
I just bought a used Canon 17-40mm. I love it. I use a Canon 70D and 5D Classic. In both cases, the lens is sharp and full of color. I am not sure what your budget is, but the 17-40 f4 is less expensive then 16-35 f4 and it has a longer reach at the long end. Of course if you get the 16-35 f2.8, you will pay around $1300, but it is a n F2.8.
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Dec 24, 2017 11:36:59   #
Can't wait til X-mas. Want it NOW!

lol
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Dec 18, 2017 23:37:50   #
tdekany wrote:
It is not “our” standard.

Imagine if I started a thread about 2 lenses to see which is sharper. Using your exact setup I took 1 picture with each lens. Instead of focusing on the car (which is what you would want the focus on because that is the closest object to your setup) by either using manual focus, or having the focus box on the car I simply let the camera pick focus and the camera picked something else to focus on behind the car with both lenses. Now imagine if you said to me that this experiment is useless because to see the sharpness, I should have focused on the car up front. Instead of realizing that I made a mistake, I kept coming back and said “but” “but” “but”.....

My test would have proven nothing.

You don’t test bokeh at f18. You test it at the widest aperture. Whether that is f1.4, or F5 as it is in this case.

This is very basic stuff and since you know the word “BOKEH” you should have at least known “how” to test for it. You will never find another test by another person like yours who understands at least the minimum.

That is why this test was useless.

The “only” time you use F18 is when you DO NOT want bokeh.

Based on your user name, I’m going to guess that you cook for a living. Imagine a supplier brought you 2 cuts of meat but he trimmed all the fat away already. How can you tell which cut was leaner?
It is not “our” standard. br br Imagine if I sta... (show quote)


My back is up and feel the need to fight to defend the premise of those images. Perhaps I used the wrong term here. What I was trying to do is compare the lenses using the same settings. I wanted to see what others thought about the images not the technique.

Having said that, I still understand Bokah to be the Bluriness in front of and in back of the main subject. This blur can be seen even at f18
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Dec 18, 2017 22:26:38   #
chaman wrote:
Who's the snob again? Next time, as said before, keep your experiment for yourself.


why? When we can have such interesting and uninformative conversations as this?

Honestly, though my method may not be up to your standard the premiss was about seeing the differences between the images, not how I got them. Is that too hard to understand?
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Dec 18, 2017 22:16:08   #
CHG_CANON wrote:
I'll have to step away too as you're trying to bring me down to your level of foolishness ...

Or maybe you're just joking?

Please show me where I said this was a demonstration in bokeh. "Bokeh test, Or playing' ink the studio."


You have brought little to this discussion so you may go
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Dec 18, 2017 22:08:14   #
CHG_CANON wrote:
said earlier: I don't think anyone is against experimenting. But, when you've said you've demonstrated bokeh via these posted examples, everyone with half a clue of the topic has replied essentially: no, you haven't. I spent some quality time giving some actionable feedback on what to change if bokeh was what you truly desired to achieve given your equipment. This is a different experiment from comparing the sharpness of two lenses. Ron gave some actionable and demonstrated tips in that area. If you're unsure of what specifically you were trying to do ... those are the experiences maybe best kept to yourself...

also said earlier: Your use of a narrow aperture does show the background out of focus behind the subject. But, "Bokeh" is a subjective and qualitative assessment of the completely out of focus aspects of the background rather than only slightly out of focus. You have a good color selected for the background, but neither of the background elements should be there (no vase, no panda, preferably no shadows). Rather, the background should be empty and the wide aperture used to completely blur all the details.

If you want to make your own definition, go ahead, have fun, it's a free country. But, don't be resentful of all the laughing ...
b said earlier: /b I don't think anyone is again... (show quote)


Please show me where I said this was a demonstration in bokeh. The original premise was to experiment with it. Please note the title(Though a little misspelled) "Bokeh test, Or playing' ink the studio."
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Dec 18, 2017 22:03:04   #
Rongnongno wrote:
I am out of this crap.

Chefneil keep trying until you get it right and forget the numerous naysayers. UHH is know for this type of feedback.

My 'rudeness' lies in the directness of my answers.


Sir, I have read you comments to me and others and wondered about them. But, if one looks inside your abruptness, there is insightful knowledge if one can step back and read it for what is worth.
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Dec 18, 2017 21:59:56   #
Rongnongno wrote:
Well, if you want a scientific process, the simplicity of it astounding and not as ridiculous as you make it sound.

Experiment (anything) take notes. Repeat the experiment to verify the data (no limit on repeat as some areas will need refining). Present whatever to your peer for review.

So, if you want a full thesis on your ridiculous claim, go back to school.

This experiment was released too fast w/o verification. If this had been done several errors would have been avoided and the detractors would have been left with nothing to do but find another target for their trolling.
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Jeepers, all I wanted was for people to notice that the Canon had a better Depth of field and rendered the blurry areas in a better fashion. I also thought the Sigma rendered the panda more in-focus at the same Fstop.

I had not thought that my fun moment would cause so much angst.
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Dec 18, 2017 21:53:41   #
from the site given by CHG_CANON: "While some photographers argue that bokeh is just about the quality of the circular light reflections, many others, including myself, believe that bokeh is about the quality of the entire out-of-focus area, not just reflections and highlights..
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Dec 18, 2017 21:47:19   #
chaman wrote:
First read, observe, then experiment. Without basic knowledge, experimenting on things you dont understand is wasting time. In order to experiment you need an hypothesis. Such hypothesis needs some basic knowledge. Read about the scientific method. Not a difficult thing really.


I wanted to compare the relative merits of one lens compared to another, why is that so hard for you to understand?
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