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Aug 18, 2017 14:11:41   #
RixPix wrote:
Before WWII, my father worked in the strip mines outside Pittsburgh. It was his first job. I had Uncles that worked in the mines in Pennsylvania digging coal for the Pennsylvania Railroad.

Many have hoped to see the mining jobs come back and voted for Trump because he would bring back their jobs. A coal miner can make upwards of $75K per year. That's not bad considering there is very little formal education required. Of course, there are the inherent health risks. Black lung, explosions, and collapses are all part of the job.

Although, this article is positive about the industry's "comeback" it fails to mention that the numbers of workers required to mine are significantly less than it was only 10 years ago. Most of the digging is done by machine and that has eliminated a lot of jobs that are never coming back.

As far as the cleanliness of coal, many only see the smoke and not the real danger from burning coal which is the release of mercury into the atmosphere and water supply. The high levels of mercury in the ground, fresh and salt waters of the earth have been indisputably linked to the burning of coal.

As the world turns away from coal outside the United States especially, in some of the countries in Europe, the demand will steadily decrease to a point where it may no longer be feasible for coal operators to stay in business. This is a welcome rebound but still just a temporary rebound for the industry. The end will come maybe not as soon as expected but it will come.
Before WWII, my father worked in the strip mines o... (show quote)


I shall post this, and then check myself into the hospital post haste. It is three days until the total eclipse but the skies are already darkening in my location. You have said something, not just a couple of words but an entire post full of sentences and complete paragraphs.......that I agree with. Medication may be required.
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Aug 18, 2017 11:29:43   #
ole sarg wrote:
Unfortunately the jobs did not come back with the coal!

Trump is a liar and a fraud and will take credit where he does not earn it.

Coal is back because of some problems in Australian mines!


You are a liar and a fraud and possess pure shit for brains.
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Aug 18, 2017 11:26:58   #
user47602 wrote:
maybe their ruler ar emore interested in clean energy than we are... or maybe they're just smarter technologists... or maybe they don't have a giant OIL & ENERGY lobby with congress in their back pockets... and the solyandra investment was only $1/2 a billion, not $5 billion/year for a hundred years! who subsidizes something for a hundred years?


Or maybe, genius, YOU have no idea what you are talking about. No surprise. Why don't you go an tour China and see how well they are doing with their environmental efforts and their efforts to clean up some of the worst pollution on earth. But, hey, genius, if you do go be sure and take some water with you as 72% of their water is NOT potable. Tell us all about your knowledge of what they are doing in other parts of the world. Let's hear it genius. LOL
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Aug 18, 2017 11:22:09   #
user47602 wrote:
did you know that there are more workers in the solar industry than coal, perhaps they could be retrained.

http://www.politifact.com/illinois/statements/2017/apr/25/brad-schneider/are-there-three-times-many-solar-energy-jobs-coal-/ wisconsin is paying like $3billion for 4000 jobs!


You mean the solar industry that is currently very heavily subsidized by U.S. Taxpayers. So heavily subsidized in fact that if the taxpayer money went away most of them would bankrupt in short order. Maybe after they bankrupt then the solar workers can be retrained to dig instead of laying rivets. Is that what you mean genius? Because if you meant it the other way around then your idea is pretty stupid. But then, YOU are very stupid.
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Aug 17, 2017 19:08:53   #
Drumpf-is-a-fool wrote:
I know, you are already members of both.
I can hear you both singing Kumbaya.


Oh Keenan, did you get yourself a new PC, a new toy? You were off line awhile Keenan, what happened, your hand me down PC crap out and you had to way for the Welfare check to show up before you could buy a new one? Next time, just remember, Green will advance you some coin for services.
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Aug 17, 2017 19:03:12   #
ken hubert wrote:
Tex can't help himself as he is inbred!




So, that is it!
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Aug 17, 2017 18:36:28   #
Screamin Scott wrote:
So, what is your solution for unemployed mine workers. Which , btw, is a dirty job. Oh right, they should go on the government dole...


The main reason greenie is upset? He is upset because the EPA is no longer running (and ruining) our economy. Some years back someone told greenie that EPA stood for Economic Progress Assoc and he believed them! LOL
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Aug 17, 2017 18:18:55   #
user47602 wrote:
you're right, it's way different now..
https://images.csmonitor.com/csm/2014/12/1224-AMINES.jpg?alias=standard_900x600


older crew!


Good post greenie to contrast yourself with the good hard working people in this picture. They are patriotic hard working Americans that do a very difficult job. They are workers and Patriots greenie. Two things YOU would know NOTHING about.
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Aug 17, 2017 18:11:08   #
If you read it through and think about it, it makes perfect sense. The Democrat party is destroying itself as it consumes itself with hate. They might as well put themselves out of their misery. Make no mistake, hate eventually consumes everything it touches and for now and the far and recent past the Democrat party represents and is consumed by nothing but hate. The Democrat party, the party rooted in hate and racism has finally outed itself to the extent that it cannot any longer hide its true self in the closet.

From Jeffery Lord


August 17, 2017, 12:01 am

If things continue the way they’re going, it’s just a matter of time.

It is a political movement devouring itself.

All of a sudden America is confronted with American leftists abruptly striking out at their own history — pulling down statues of those who were the military leaders of a philosophical belief that is historically recorded and enshrined as the building block of the Democratic Party.

In a 2016 commencement address to City College in New York graduates, then-First Lady Michelle Obama said that “every single day” as First Lady “I wake up in a house that was built by slaves.” True enough.

But what the First Lady left out is that every day any Democrat in America wakes up they are the core of a political party that, like the physical White House, “was built by slaves.”

Back there in the stone age of 2008 I authored a piece in The American Spectator which was reprinted in the Wall Street Journal. In which there was a specific recounting of the Democratic Party’s construction as the Party of Race. A party that was built on the idea of racism.

Among the hard facts of party history cited were these:

Six party platforms from 1840-1860 that supported slavery.
Twenty Democratic Party platforms from 1868-1948 that either supported segregation outright or were silent on the subject.
The use of the Ku Klux Klan, which, according to Columbia University historian Eric Foner, became “a military force serving the interests of the Democratic Party.” University of North Carolina historian Allen Trelease described the Klan as the “terrorist arm of the Democratic Party.”
The Democratic Party opposed the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments to the Constitution. The 13th banned slavery. The 14th effectively overturned the infamous 1857 Dred Scott decision (made by Democratic pro-slavery Supreme Court justices) by guaranteeing due process and equal protection to former slaves. The 15th gave black Americans the right to vote.
And so it went as the Democratic Party built itself politically on a culture of racism that is now once again overflowing in this sudden drive of 21st century leftists to deny the original identity politics that created them — and which is still the nuclear core of their ideological energy.

All of which raises the obvious question. If the statues birthed by Democratic Party orthodoxy must come down — and there is now a call to remove statues of prominent Democratic members of the House or Senate from the US Capitol building — should the political party that gave birth to those statues in the first place be the exception to the First Amendment — and banned and outlawed outright?

My answer? Of course not. The First Amendment should protect even a party built by racism and racists. But if Americans are not going to ban the Democrats — the political party that was built on the backs of black slaves and segregation? A party that continues to this very day by feeding off of identity politics — the grandchild of slavery and the child of segregation? Then at the very least the party must be held accountable for its legacy.

What does that mean at its logical conclusion? Should President Franklin Roosevelt’s statue on the Washington Mall be ripped out? FDR was the president who embodied the Democratic Party in the 1930s and 1940s and well beyond after his death. He was also the president who appointed Ku Klux Klansman and Alabama Senator Hugo Black to the Supreme Court. Black, a leading progressive of the day wrote this of FDR in a memo, as noted by author Bruce Bartlett in his telling book Wrong on Race: The Democratic Party’s Buried Past. Wrote Justice Black:

President Roosevelt, when I went up to lunch with him, told me there was no reason for my worrying about my having been a member of the Ku Klux Klan. He said that some of his best friends and supporters he had in the state of Georgia were strong members of that organization. He never in any way, by word or attitude, indicated any doubt about my having been in the Klan nor did he indicate any criticism of me for having been a member of that organization. The rumors and statements to the contrary are wrong.
Justice Black would later go on to author Korematsu v. United States — the infamous Supreme Court decision that imprisoned Japanese-Americans in internment camps. Will FDR’s Hyde Park home and presidential library now be burned to the ground?

Or perhaps the focus should be on demolishing the Democratic National Committee headquarters in Washington? The home base for the party built on the backs of black slaves and segregation? A number of times last year I asked when the Democratic Party was going to get around to apologizing for slavery in its platform. There was silence in response.

The American Left is in the process of eating itself alive even if today’s media — not to mention all those pullers-down of statues — don’t seem to recognize the logical end result of what they are doing.

And that’s before one even gets to the obvious if strictly ignored reality (by the liberal media) that all those would-be Nazis and Neo-Nazis out there in America are not “Right” — they are “Left.” The infamous German political party whose name and tactics these bigots, racists, and anti-Semites ape had its shorthand abbreviation of “Nazis” taken from their formal name — the German National Socialist Labor Party. A party that had as one of its slogans this: Geminate geht vor Eigennutz — “the commonweal ranks above private profit.” In other words, hardcore left-wing socialism. Suffice to say, Lincoln, Reagan, Kemp — or Trump — conservatives or Republicans they are not. And neither were those self-described Nazis and Neo-Nazis in the streets of Charlottesville.

So the question? If in fact the American Left is working its way through the monument legacy of racism in this country? Then the Democratic Party — the party of slavery, segregation, identity politics, and the obsession of judging by skin color which gave and gives life and breath to the American Left — is the biggest, baddest monument in all of American history.

One waits to see the moment when the Leftist activists toppling those statues of their philosophical ancestors realize they are demanding the political abolition of themselves.
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Aug 17, 2017 17:50:24   #
user47602 wrote:
LIAR!!!

https://www.oilandgas360.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/eia-coal-production-Energy-Outlook-2017.jpg


Good that you prefaced your post with the word Liar (cannot imagine where you picked that up) so that we know what to expect and need not bother to view the rest. Way to go greenie, you are improving.
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Aug 17, 2017 17:48:14   #
thom w wrote:
Trump fought off shore wind turbines near his golf club in Scotland. If it's constructed right and doesn't suffer a major accident, nuclear power plants emit less radioactivity into the atmosphere than coal powered ones.
I can't make out whether you are against green energy or are just pointing out that we need a mix of sources.


I guess ONLY you know what this post has to do with the original post? Oh, I see, maybe, you just had to get a little Trump hating in? I get it. You need not bother, that is assumed from the hating racist crowd that you represent.
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Aug 17, 2017 17:45:33   #
Screamin Scott wrote:
A mix of sources as no one source will cover everything...


Oops. You gave him a direct and logical answer. It will take him some time to sort that out!
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Aug 17, 2017 17:42:51   #
thom w wrote:
One doesn't follow the other. If they are related in anyway it only by the thinnest of thread.

I will not be responding again.


Mission accomplished. Please do not respond. Be generous assuming you have responded at all given that everything you post is nonsensical. Bye. Loser.
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Aug 17, 2017 11:47:28   #
bull drink water wrote:
if we can acknowledge that oil will see it's day, why not coal? the cost of using coal over the years has been really high. air, water and land pollution, not to mention health issues. it cost to burn coal willy nilley, it cost to filter the smoke. we can't afford the cost any longer.


Wrong, apparently we can afford and so can the people we are exporting millions upon millions of tons of coal to. Oh, those would be the same people that have sworn they are going to "fix" the climate.
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Aug 17, 2017 11:45:19   #
SharpShooter wrote:
If you invest in coal in one hand and shit in the other, you wanna guess which hand will fill up with all the dividands first???
That's the future of coal!
SS


Yeah, heard that before. Came from the same stupid people that assured us that Hillary would be president. Remember that? Bet you do. Ask your sister about that. LOL
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