IF Americans were to check this out, they would find that if our country went the Sahria law, our women would be unsafe. they believe that women are lower than cattle. I often wonder why if women are lower than cattle why they don't use cattle to have their sons..... only wondering.. we just need to pray very very hard, start going back to church and ask God for all the forgiveness he is willing to give us Americans...Put prayer back into school and in our workplace. IF we don't we'll have to pray to their alla....

Croce (if that's your real name), I thought your avatar was just a picture of Peter Ustinov that came with the last new wallet you bought.

(and after making that crass attempt at humor, I will get to work on changing my profile and picture back to something less mysterious.) :-D :lol:

P.S. I really do enjoy your posts.

I see you have been doing some serious research. Evertt "Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Theory". WOW! ( Notice the key word is THEORY.)

I did not immediately respond to your last post in which you stated that your experience with Christians has been that an attack on their beliefs was considered by them as 'an insult'( or words to that effect). I know, and you know, that your words about my faith were intended to be personal with thinly disguised distain for my intelligence. If that's what you believe,"kock yourself out," but i am not going to participate in what began as an honest exchange of differences of opinions which 'deteriorated' into disrespect and intolerance of a differing view. My reference to your 'being alone' was, of course, to your being alone inside which, IMO, you are with a belief system which excludes all but the provable. Look, man believes the earth is round rather than flat because it was proved to be round. But, and here's one of your problems, the earth was ALWAYS round not just after it was proven. Man was just 'catching up' to a truth present since the earth was formed. Yet, in an atheist/ agnostic's belief system, the earth was flat until it was proved to be round.

OK, i am going to try one more time with a different approach since my "faith/ bridge" analogy didn't seem to adequately present my side of this discussion.

Atheists/agnostics are way too stuck on the 'IF IT CAN'T BE PROVED, IT DOESN'T EXISTS' mentality. I don't know if it's the intellectual equivalent of 'political correctness' or what. My belief is(again, IMO) that ultimate truth exist without need to be proved by man. Living in a world of 'belief only if proved' is living within only a small percentage of the totality of ultimate truth. Example: one year from now there will be "proof", by scientific method, of truths we do not now know. The fact man can't PROVE them until next year does not mean that they do not exist now. 'Probilities' are mathimatical efforts to quantify the chance that a particular perceived truth exist. It does not determine whether the percieved truth ACTUALLY exist. That is the difference between 'probabilities' and 'faith'. The former predicts chances that a perceived truth exist. The latter allows for belief that the perceived truth does exist without need for scientific proof.

Now, you can answer or not, but this is my belief and i'm sticking with it!