Own it means own a part of the company in my rant. Sorry it is unclear.

If you own it you want a return on your investment. Right now about 4 % per year. This represents the $ that’s in excess of expenses over revenue. Expenses are employees and the cost to maintain them... physical offices, heat, lights and taxes and insurance and advertising and... and.. well you get the picture. Revenue is the left over, it is split among the investors who took a risk that the stock would increase in value and pay a small dividend, +\- 4%. Who knows what the government makes as it’s cut but certainly more than 4%. Then the investors pay tax on what they earn again. So everybody gets a piece of the action. Employees work for wages at a salary based upon the guidance of the board of directors. The customer gets a product that costs about the same as a Late’ Win-win. In a nutshell.

Why in the hell would you turn a photo sharing site into an inane political rant? Please spare us from your off topic BS by getting a freaking life.

I’m reminded of the Harley Davidson vs Imported “cruisers” where they say “it looks like or sounds just like a Harley.” Here it’s “looks just like film.” There is always a standard to which all is compared, personal preferences aside.

There is nothing like the thrill of an image emerging out of a pan of developer, however it is much harder to accomplish a good photographic print than to use a computer. In these days of instant gratification 99% of the photographers are unwilling or unable to justify the time it takes to make an analog print vs. a digital print. I suspect that most people looking at the final product care one way or the other.

White balance for underwater photography.

Longest was Ecktachrome slide of night sky at Polihale state park, Kauai, Hawaii. Maybe the darkest place I’ve seen. It is unscanned as is a shot of Glacier peak Washington. Both in the 3 hour range. The attached is 30 sec

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L is the designation for Low Dispersion. Much better quality glass. More $$$ But optically superior.

The reference to Powell and his huge camera is referring to John Wesley Powell who explored the SW US in the late 1860’s. I do not have a camera like that. Just offering an alternative to 35mm. I hope your 5 degrees is c not f. Brrrrr. At some point nothing works. Near where I grew up holds the record for cold in contiguous US. At -69.8 f. I’m sure no photos were taken that day, at least outside. Enjoy your day.

[quote=Quinn 4]Having just sold off my last medium format camera. At one time I had six of them. Yes, one can get great pictures with one of them. Big drew backs, is the size of the camera and using it outdoor. In the summer time some problems which can be handed. Winter time outdoor use not a good idea at all. Cost of film, a roll of 120mm give you only 12 pictures. For the same price one can get a roll of 35mm film with 24 pictures per roll. People have wrote about using 120mm B&W film. Great if you are set up for developing you own film, but what about if you are not( like me). What about color film? Want lens for a 120mm film camera. You better have good credit, you will need it. If you have a 120mm film camera and it works or find one at a low price. Get a roll of film and try it out.[/quote/] Reasonable points, but when you consider Powell in his exploration of the Grand Canyon carried an 8x10 view camera....with glass plates... the weight considerations look silly. My Hasselblad weighs about 4lbs with the lens and back. I have a 42 in wide panorama, just a crop from a square negative, of Monument Valley that you can count the grains of sand and a tack sharp horizon. Try that with a 35mm. If the number of shots you want exceeds 12 shots then use digital. You can carry several magazines with different types of film loaded in them to suit the situation. You are not forced to shoot 24 pics before changing from one type of film to another. As regards processing, my town has a lab that does B&W as well as color with a couple day turnaround. I believe that Costco has a source for developing and printing medium format. I recommend self developing as an educational experience. You'll learn about metering, exposure, contrast manipulation, and the likes. Also, the fact that you can't just put the camera in the "green zone" and shoot a gazillion shots hoping for one that works, you will become a much better artist. The good news is Medium format cameras are incredibly inexpensive now. I bought a Mamiya 645 with an 80mm lens for about the price of 2 tanks of fuel in my pickup truck. The used Hassy that I bought with an 80mm cost less than their cheapest Lens that they sold 20 years ago.

I agree with the suggestion to go with medium format. If you are going to develop your own black and white negatives the developing tanks are cheap and with a simple film loading bag you can develop them in daylight, no need for a darkroom. My friend actually processes his with coffee and vitamin C. I bought a Mamiya 645 for a little more than the CLA mentioned above. The negatives are wonderful. Your whole approach to photography will change to a more deliberate and thoughtful process because of the lag between shutter and finished print. As regards a light meter, there are several apps for your smartphone, free, so try them and find one you like.

That camera appears to be a Graphlex, either a Speed or Crown. The go to camera for press photographers for decades. 4x5 format with the shift, tilt and swing on the lens board. Made WONDERFUL images with a good lens. I used one for years but only for black and white. I still have it but replaced it with a Toyo field camera.

👍👍. I read the eagle count on your lake yesterday was 275. A record for C d’A Lake.