Posts: SBW | Ugly Hedgehog

Sjfh wrote:

I find myself somewhat conflicted over this issue.

On the one hand these confederate generals were brilliant military men and top notch leaders. We absolutely should not forget them and instead to study and learn from them. On the other hand, however, The fact is that they were traitors to the United States of America and as such…while they should be remembered, I agree that it is probably not appropriate for them to be honored in the United States of America

So that you may know. Robert E. Lee and his military and battle tactics are still studied in American War Colleges.

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Afraid of history.

thom w wrote:

No person here has ever blocked me, to my knowledge. You have, and I'll let my post speak for itself.

Most really should block you as you have NEVER had anything of value to say.

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Afraid of history.

Twardlow wrote:

I am a liberal, and proud of it. I make no bones ... (show quote)

You don't even make a good puppet you blue gum piece of shit. You have to read your favorite liberal rags every morning so you know WHAT TO THINK THAT DAY. You have admitted that on this very forum, you stupid fool. Did you forget that you imbecile? You are so stupid, it is almost funny. Have you done anything right in your miserable life?

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Afraid of history.

Twardlow wrote:

This is the pathetic best you can do.

You have nothing to say, no contribution to add to the conversation, to further the dialogue and increase understanding, to illuminate, but you just have to say something, like "Look At Me, Look At Me!," with an empty mind, a loud voice, and a pronounced fear of not being noticed.

And your failing isn't even appropriate, witty or humorous.

Moron.

You are describing yourself exactly, you son of a dirty whore.

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Afraid of history.

thom w wrote:

The statue was erected in 1924 for god's sake. It isn't ancient, although you were probably quite young at the time.

Does not matter if it was erected yesterday.

BTW, in polls this week, a minimum of 64% of the American public, nationwide, state the Confederate Memorial Statues should be left in place.

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user47602 wrote:

wait...

are you seriously comparing religious monuments erected to the glory of our creator that have stood for thousands of years to 150 year-old statues honoring a traitor to the republic and the institution of slavery?

...most people would see a connection with the Taliban and white supremacists...hehe.

You can make just as sound an argument that Lincoln was a traitor to the Republic. Lincoln had a written and agreed upon plan to repatriate freed blacks back to Africa or the West Indies after the war was over. I guess that makes him a traitor in your eyes, you sorry piece of shit. If you have an ounce of sense which you probably do not if you read Lincoln's writings and quotes on the subject you could reasonably conclude that Abraham Lincoln was probably one of the biggest racists this country ever produced. Just facts, shit head.

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Afraid of history.

Twardlow wrote:

The statues are, of course, history, as were lynching, other examples of treason, slavery itself, suffering in Civil War POW camps, etc. History is, in fact, a record of everything that ever happened, good, bad, or indifferent.

The issue you address is this: Which of these should be commemorated, expecially which should be commemorated using tax dollars? Is it appropriate, reasonable and meaningful to spend tax dollars to commemorate Treason?

Would it be reasonable, for example, to spend tax dollars to commemorate Machine Gun Kelly and his various adventures, or Jesse James, or the abuse of Chinese workers in building the railroads out West, or Al Capone, or The Boston Strangler, or Julius and Ethel Rosenberg?

I don't mind in the least some redneck who wants to wear a confederate flag on his tee shirt, or hang one from his truck; self-announced idiocy is acceptable. Somewhere there must be someone wearing a tee shirt commemorating the Cubs throwing the World Series.

But for officialdom of government spending tax dollars to commemorate these things just doesn't seem appropriate.

We have books, TV shows and movies dealing with all of these, but books, TV shows and movies aren't tax-supported and officially recognized commemorations. If one wanted to commercialize a scandalous red light district as a tourist attraction, or the city of Tombstone and the OK Corral, or a private gangster museum (we have one in Hot Springs) that's fine. We also have a club in Hot Springs, funded in 1905, that was a speakeasy and worse during prohibition (pretending to be a cigar store then) that still functions, and--privately--glorifies gangsters and gangsterism, and by implication glorifies prostitution, illegal gambling, and the violence that goes with all of these--but we don't use tax dollars and public adoration to enhance its history and their meaning; Memphis has bars and more on Main Street which are rich in history and infamous, but they suffer along on private money, monuments to man's shortcomings, errors and violence, and are not enobled by official acclaim and tax support.

The Civil War, which is usually what we are talking about, was Treason in support of the Very Worst of
Humanity and its failings, and its toll was incalculable violence, suffering, with a goal of destroying this nation.

Surely the perpetrators of this deserve no official commemoration, official respect, or emulation.

The statues are, of course, history, as were lynch... (show quote)

Prove it was treason, you blue gum bastard.

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Afraid of history.

user47602 wrote:

We won, YOU LOST...suck it up buttercup ....anyone... (show quote)

Actually, stupid, moron, there are monuments to British soldiers that fought in the Revolutionary War. Those monuments are on American soil. Stupid. There is a Confederate Monument in Arlington National Cemetary erected by Union Soldiers to honor their service for their cause. Did not know that did you, stupid?
You do not know any history do you greenie boy? Too busy polishing your boy friend's knob on the beach I guess. LOL

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Rab-Eye wrote:

I cannot speak for others, but perhaps they think it wrong to honor those who represent the worst moral stain in American history.

Then you should include the current American Flag in that. It flew over slave holding states for almost 80 years. Be consistent you hateful creep.

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NO, President Trump did not say or imply there are fine people in the KKK or White supremacists groups..more Libtard lies.

thom w wrote:

I wasn't there so I can only guess who threw the first but there is no doubt that "unite the right instigated it.

You are a lying bastard. The white racist group was marching WITHOUT incident and they were attacked by the leftist group with bats and tear gas. That is a documented fact, shit head. That is not defending the racist that is just stating the facts. Stop making crap up you lying piece of trash.

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provocative insight into Charlottesville

thom w wrote:

As to Donald Trump, he’s been in the public spotlight for more than four decades, and during that time there has never been a hint of bigotry attributed to him

That is laughable. He's been sued for racial discrimination by the government at least twice.

PROVE IT DUMB ASS! Prove it or shut your mouth.

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provocative insight into Charlottesville

user47602 wrote:

c'mon you know better than that... 21st century racists cover up their tracks better than that.... but did you notice the 2nd time when he actually mentioned them by name? I wondered if he was being held hostage and forced to say those things... (which apparently, he was.)

What a lame try, even for a mental midget like you. "racists cover up their tracks better than that" LOL. Like I said, pretty lame even for an imbecile like you. Geenie, give it up, just go to your favorite poorly kept, littered with trash beach on the favorite island you love and spend your time with your tree worshipping faggot friends, smoking the leaf of the day and telling each other lies. That much better suits you. Imbecile. You have nothing of value to say here.

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provocative insight into Charlottesville

thom w wrote:

As to Donald Trump, he’s been in the public spotlight for more than four decades, and during that time there has never been a hint of bigotry attributed to him

That is laughable. He's been sued for racial discrimination by the government at least twice.

PROVE IT! Prove it or shut your stupid bigoted, racist mouth.

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Robert E. Lee on Confederate monuments

user47602 wrote:

yeah he turned out to be a traitor to the "rebel" cause.... not the civil War cause, the white supremacist one.

Nothing about white supremacy goofball. But of course, you are too stupid to figure that out. You just say what they tell you to say goofball.

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Coal Makes A Comeback!

user47602 wrote:

how shall I put this? bwahahahahahahahhhhhhahhahha... (show quote)

What great sources you have goofball. No wonder it is so easy for you to steal and plagiarize! Keep confirming that you are pure imbecile. A lump of coal for you, shit for brains.