Not a problem at all.

It amazes me how some people can attempt to expound on what science says or doesn't say, knows or doesn't know, without having a clue beyond watching some mindless pap on television.

Not only is their ignorance on the subjects both abyssal and abysmal, they seem a bit proud about it. How anyone in the 21st century, 150 years since the publication of Darwin's "Origin" still consider "Well... if we evolved from monkeys, WHY are there still monkeys? Huh?" a significant question and one that is supposed to shake evolutionary science to its core.

What's even more amazing is that during that 150 year span, not one evolutionary biologist has ever made the claim we evolved from monkeys. Darwin himself never made the claim, but if I had a dime for every time some Young Earther made it... my retirement would be secure.

It is a wonder.

Still flogging that poor straw man, I see. Not once have I claimed to have it "all figured out." No one on here, other than some of the religionists, have it all figured out. I don't know of any scientist who claims it is all figured out.

Please, give that poor straw man a break!

But we are not talking about those subjects. It was SteveR who brought up cosmology and stating someone (as yet unidentified) on a television show(as yet unidentified) claimed we had no knowledge about how superclusters of galaxies form. Cosmology, evolution and other scientific topics ARE talked about on this forum and, apparently, those writing about the subjects know as much as I do about your Lenca culture or Garifuna music.

I know bupkes about either of them.

But then, I wouldn't be attempting to discuss those subjects; many do exactly that here without knowing the first thing about astronomy, physics or biology.

Most of us would be dead. Life expectancy in 1870 for males was 44.1 years, females fared a bit better at 46.4 years.

Not sure about you, but there is not a time in the past I'd wish to live. Our lives are better today than they have ever been. Even the poorest of us command more power with the flick of a switch than the Pharaohs of Egypt or the Roman emperors.

As Harvey mentioned, generators are cheap. I have a pair of Honda EU2000i units that will power the furnace, the fridge, electric coffee maker and a few lights for a couple gallons of gas a day.

Are you including 1870 medical care as well?

Did you find the book compelling? What struck you as the most interesting things in it?

Just curious since I haven't read it, but added it to my ever-lengthening reading list.

Don't understand much about what a scientific theory is, then.

If you don't think these things can be figured out... what are the astronomers observing when they watch the evolution of galaxies or star formation? The constancy of the speed of light acts as a time machine. We can see what was going on on the sun 8 minutes ago, what was happening to Sirius 8 years ago and what the universe looked like 8 billion years ago.

But let me ask you the same question I've asked others on here (and must report that not one has answered): What was the last book on cosmology or astronomy you've read?

Wow! You certainly flogged that straw man! Where in the discussion did anyone claim "we have it all figured out"?

Now, there are some religionists on the forum who do seem to have god's plans all figured out. Are they fools as well?

It's also known as PEBKAC - Problem exists between keyboard and chair.

A false dichotomy. You make it sound as if there were only two postmortem options: stone dead and your god. There are many other options possible which will place you into the same quandry as the unbeliever.

Suppose, Allah is god. How's that gonna work for you?

Since you just saw the show last night... what show was it?

And who was the moron who said astrophysics has no explanation for galaxy clusters? What forms galaxy clusters is the same thing holding you in your chair - gravity. The problem wasn't galaxy clusters forming in the early universe, but the formation of the galaxies themselves. That problem was solved with the results of the COBE and WMAP satellites that measured tiny temperature variations in the CMBR.

You will not learn science watching television. Pick up a good book on a selected topic and start reading and understanding what it is you read.

Just another example of corporate welfare.

As Andrew Young called it, "Socialism for the rich and free enterprise for the rest of us."

I don't think that's true any longer. I recall a change in law back in the 60s that income producing property like commercial buildings are taxed as they would be if owned by secularists. Buildings used exclusively for religious purposes are exempt.

As George Carlin explained it, god is like an office temp with a bad attitude.



Carlin on religion:
http://rense.com/general69/obj.htm

When asked what he thought of Western civilization, Gandhi replied, "I think it would be a very good idea."

Did you believe what Robert posted in the opening post? I didn't see any links to sites that might be hosting the video.

Strange, that.