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Dec 25, 2021 17:52:01   #
All my digital photos have been moved into my new computer and indexed. I'm sure I made a few mistakes, but I will correct them in time. I have no complaints about LrC speed now!


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Dec 24, 2021 07:51:35   #
burkphoto wrote:
For five of my 33 years in a photography/printing company, I ran a digital portrait photofinishing lab. We used 39 Macs and 77 PCs. We had just over four times the support calls from the PC users as we had from the Mac users, .


I'm not near the power user you are. Nor do I have all the computer experience that you have had. I did work for IBM as an employee for 25 and half years and after a forced retirement (Golden Parachute). I worked for them as consultant for another 12 years. While working at IBM I was privy to some inside information that IBM was going enter the small computer market. I was an early adaptor to the IBM-PC world. I have done some programming.

After I retired I was visiting my son and saw his Mac desk top computer. I was impressed by the big beautiful screen so I bought one as gift for my soon to be 2nd wife. She was an art teacher. I then made the jump from the IBM-PC to Apple and never looked back. My grand son is a "gammer" and needs the speed that he tells me is only available on PC computers.

I'm fully retired now and Photograph is a hobby. I like being able to carry my MacBook Pro(s) into the Apple store and getting competent support. Apple also provides good phone support. They are able to take control of my computer from a remote location and quickly help me. Adobe links me to India where a very fast speaking hard to understand man downloaded and installed the latest versions of LR and PS. The man in India took over complete control of my computer and did things why faster than I could have done it. I was watching him to make sure he did not access my person information.

$6000 plus is a lot of money for some people. I'm old and recently beat a deadly cancer and decided, "Why not, I can't take it with me when I die. I'm happy with my purchase, in spite of the title of this thread.

I still say importing a large number of photo images into LR and "manually" rebuilding the index is hard slow process and I'm spending more time than I thought I would waiting for the computer to build it's index when I import new images in bulk. I was warned by kind folks here on UHH that it would be difficult. I'm going to give myself a break for Christmas but I estimate that I only have about ten more hours of work to do. It's been a learning experience and I'm learning how to use some of the power built into LR. The good news is that I'm discovering some old good photos that I thought were lost forever.

I have yet to hear the fan turn on in this computer. I hope the fan works?!

Please let's not turn this into pointless PC vs Mac debate!
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Dec 23, 2021 21:29:19   #
letmedance wrote:
I could not survive on that connection, I would be bald by now from hair pulling. I do not know have a lot of raid experience but I believe that a really good raid backup " 10" requires at least 4 drives. That means the computer will be writing to more than one disk which means longer data transfer, add to that the limits of the LAN device in your home may not match the speed of your latest Mac.


It's not as bad as you make it sound. It's only slow when I'm interfacing with the Internet. Everything else goes very fast.

As for RAID back up disks:
My new MacBook has 8TB SSM. My RAID has two "spinning" 8TB HDs mirroring each other. I'm covered pretty, well.
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Dec 23, 2021 19:20:30   #
LrC is working so fast now on the newly indexed images that it's a game changer. It's no effort now to quickly find and export an image. See attached photo of a deer I took out my window using an 840mm lens.


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Dec 23, 2021 18:29:36   #
letmedance wrote:
I am sure Apple will be sending a lot of emails and reminders that he needs to by more space on iCloud if he is.


I live on a mountain top in the woods. I'm lucky if I get 30 MBPS. I back up using the LAN in my home to RAID upstairs in my bedroom. There are NO fiber optic cable companies available to me. I use my radio connection to a cell phone tower. On a very cold night in the wee hours, I might hit 40 MBPS.
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Dec 23, 2021 14:43:01   #
PHRubin wrote:
This may not be your problem, but I noticed that when moving photos around internally on my hard drive, if I had a cloud backup running such as Amazon Photos, it could dramatically slow down everything.


I thought of that. I do not backup via the Internet, but I do have LAN based connection backing up to a RAID. I could turn the RAID off to make sure it's not performing incremental backups while I'm working. I could turn off the RAID, and see if that helps.

It seems to be blinding fast with indexed images, It's just that the indexing takes a while. Adobe has just recently offered LR to accommodate the M1 chip. There could be some bugs that will be worked out soon.
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Dec 23, 2021 14:19:33   #
MJPerini wrote:
Your Machine should be VERY VERY Fast, once everything is ingested. As I understand it You are placing all you photo files in a new directory system on the internal storage. Then you will create a lightroom catalog, on the same internal storage from a subset of your Master image database file =is that correct?
Things like making previews can slow the process down, but once done should make the experience better.
Because your machine is very fast with lots of cores it has the potential to be very fast if the software is optimized for the multiple cores. I do not use Lightroom but when adobe says it is optimized, do they say how many cores it is written to use? In General Video software tends to take better advantage of hardware, but you machine should be very fast. Let it finish and then reevaluate. Good luck
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Yep, YOU understand. It is very fast working with indexed files. It's the indexing process that is slow. It will be worth when I'm done. I'm about half way.
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Dec 23, 2021 14:15:09   #
Gene51 wrote:
He said his drive is internal - no USB - Like yourself, I thought if he had externals, that was surely the problem.



Good grief, is Gene51 is the only who takes the time to read the question!?

Importing the images takes a bit longer than I expected. Not only that but I occasionally get the "spinning beach ball of death!" The good news it's now easier and quicker to force the computer off and reboot.
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Dec 23, 2021 11:55:25   #
Real Nikon Lover wrote:
Merry Christmas! You took the words out of my mouth. The indexing is something I also experienced on two new SSD installs. Had same problem with conventional SATA drives.

Santa is bringing me 3 new stand alone 8TB SSDs (Costco deal) to start a massive backup project 20 years in the making. Ho Ho Ho


Wow, THREE 8TB!
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Dec 23, 2021 10:37:07   #
Another example of an old photo that I remembered I had but could not find because of past errors.

Now that I'm creating a new index file, I'm finding these "lost" photos.


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Dec 23, 2021 10:09:38   #
burkphoto wrote:
Keep us posted on what you find. I'm betting it speeds up for you, once all your files are in place and linked properly, and you address any interface speed issues.


You are correct. I'm well into the reindexing of my data files. It's very fast now! I made a lot of mistakes when I was coming up the LR learning curve. I'm using this as opportunity to correct my past errors.

This gives me something productive to do on these cold winter days.
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Dec 23, 2021 09:52:41   #
cjc2 wrote:
Personally, I use an iMac PRO with 32GB and a 1TB SSD. Not one of my photos are stored on my internal drive and I have 250,000 plus RAW image files in my Lr catalogue. My system runs blazingly fast. ALL my image files are stored on an external LaCie 2Big drive system (16TB running RAID 1) and are connected to my machine via a high end TB3 cable to a TB3 port directly to my iMac. The only stuff on my internal SSD is the OS and the applications (such as Lightroom and Photoshop among others. I am always running the latest versions of everything. I follow Adobe's instructions when moving to a new machine. Hope this givess you some food for thought. Happy Holidays to ALL!
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That was the way I used to use mine. I decided to move it all inside the computer. I'm currently indexed will enought to quickly find these photos that show my old system using an external HD.

I'm still working on my indexing. I'll get there.


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Dec 23, 2021 08:42:34   #
I copied the "images only" from my old computer to my new one. I'm now reconstructing the LR data base to make pointer using key words in my new computer. There is a lot of duplication from past errors. It takes time.
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Dec 23, 2021 06:06:49   #
tcthome wrote:
From external portable ssd? You will only move so fast through a transfer using a cablefrom drive to your macbook. I couldn't say if you're moving by air/wifi/wireless, etc.


Gene51 wrote:
He said his drive is internal - no USB - Like yourself, I thought if he had externals, that was surely the problem.


Argggh! Please read the above post by Gene51!

It's all happening internal on my computer. Only my Time Machine backups to an external RAID spinning HDs are external. I turn off Time Machine while doing the imports to keep that from slowing me down.

We are all guilty of speed reading only the OP and then posting our thoughts.

I like this new M1 Apple computer. I dread to think how slow this process would be if I were using a slower computer!
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Dec 23, 2021 06:02:45   #
Gene51 wrote:
He said his drive is internal - no USB - Like yourself, I thought if he had externals, that was surely the problem.


Thank you for taking the time to fully read and understand my OP. I thought it was clear but most people misunderstood what I was doing!

I think the problem is that my collection of photos is so vast and I'm demanding so much of the computer. I seemed to have a harder time than most coming up the learning curve in LR. My work flow was complex at times. I would start working in LR but then if I liked the photo I would export the RAW image into DxO Optics Pro to perform lens defects corrections and and noise reduction. I like the results that I got from DxO but the result is that DxO generates a second raw file in the DNG format. LR can handle having both DNG and other forms of raw files of the same image. I would then often decide to edit the image in PS and end up with a TIFF version of the same image. The local printing company I use prefers to use Tiff files. I also a big fan of the Topaz AI and the absolute magic Topaz can perform at eliminate the effects of camera shake and less than perfect focus. Talk about slow! It was the slow processing time of the AI programs that prompted me to buy the fastest Lap Top computer that I could. When I decided that I wanted to share an image on line with my UHH or Facebook friends I would make a JPG version for the Internet.

Bottom line, I'm a creative slob who generates multiple images that are hard to keep track of! I'm demanding a lot from LR and my computer.

When I first posted this thread I was attempting to import a years worth of photos at a time. I have decided to drop down to a months worth of photos at a time. That is a lot easier on both me and the computer. I'm getting there but is going to take me a while.

Upgrading to a new computer is always a painful experience.
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