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Mar 27, 2024 16:55:17   #
robertjerl wrote:
Yes, even if they had dropped all anchors, fore and aft the ship would have barely slowed and depending on the grip the anchors got on the bottom would have still turned from the straight ahead course - but turned to where???

The ship was pointed to go through the channel under the bridge when the power failed and that anchor got dropped, without the anchor only the currents would have turned it, and it might have made it under the bridge or run aground without taking out the bridge.


I think the NTSB, Coast Guard and Army Corps of Engineers are all making a big mistake; they should come to the UHH forum where they will find all the answers.....
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Mar 27, 2024 16:26:13   #
robertjerl wrote:
And all it did was turn the ship so instead of missing the bridge column, it hit it. Things probably would have gone better without that anchor, as the ship would either have glided under the bridge or run aground near the column instead of taking it out.

Sometimes the best action is to take no action.


Really?....🤔
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Mar 27, 2024 16:19:17   #
robertjerl wrote:
Dropping the anchors would hardly have had any effect on the speed of that large a ship at that speed. It would probably have taken dragging the anchors for miles to bring it to a stop. Anchors are not for stopping ships/boats, they are for place holding when still.

Once while fishing with an uncle the anchor on our 16' John Boat running at slow with an electric trolling motor fell in shallow water, snagged in the mud and spun the boat around so we were going backward from the momentum even with the motor still going in forward. That little John Boat with two adult size men and load of fishing gear kept going until we were had gone 3-4 boat lengths and finally stopped when we came up against a 4' thick tree trunk with the motor hung up in flooded bushes several feet from the tree and dragging the bushes.
Dropping the anchors would hardly have had any eff... (show quote)


They did drop an anchor.....
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Mar 27, 2024 14:39:34   #
don2b2 wrote:
Coming out of my neighborhood, I could always see the Bridge in the distance. A jolt this morning when it was no longer there. This was a photo from some 15 years ago.


Please clarify; is the photo one you took?
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Mar 27, 2024 08:44:11   #
BebuLamar wrote:
The bridge on the ship is taller than all the container. So if it can go thru when empty it can go thru fully loaded.


Thank you for injecting some sanity into the discussion.
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Mar 27, 2024 08:37:38   #
Wallen wrote:
I was watching the security video published last night. The ship did lost light and smoke for about a second just before it hit the bridge.
But was heading for the pillar the whole time, maybe a full 10 minutes before impact, and was moving very fast for such a small navigation space at night.
That bridge and pillars should be clearly marked on their navigation tools and the area would be time to carefully pilot. If my bells are correct, it was intentional.


The ship was apparently going at a normal speed for that area. But you know better?
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Mar 27, 2024 08:34:04   #
Amtrain wrote:
They did not drop either of the two anchors ...a big No-No.


Really? Are the photos that show the port anchor down fake?
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Mar 27, 2024 08:30:37   #
All you armchair naval architects and harbor pilots ought to take a deep breath and switch to decaf. Please wait for the facts and stop spreading nonsensical conjectures.
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Mar 26, 2024 17:55:29   #
AirWalter wrote:
I heard some other news programs and they were talking about, some of people who were starting investigation already wondered why the anchors were never dropped


Some of the pictures I've seen show the anchor chain hanging out of the hawsepipe on one side of the ship.
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Mar 26, 2024 15:58:29   #
robertjerl wrote:
Maybe they are also overloaded. Shippers always want to move the most possible.

Railroads did the same, trains got to be so long many areas passed laws limiting how long they could block road crossings. They had gotten so long and heavy they had to start slowing many miles out from the rail yards, and the distance to make an "emergency stop" came to be measured in miles
It didn't matter if an engineer saw a stalled car on the tracks if from the time he locked up the brakes to the time he stopped his locomotive was a mile or 2 (maybe more) past the crossing.
Maybe they are also overloaded. Shippers always w... (show quote)


you say "Maybe they are also overloaded." So now you're adding to your original accusation. I hope you never take part in an accident investigation.

And speaking of a ship's sail area, did you ever take a good look at cruise ships?
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Mar 26, 2024 14:42:04   #
robertjerl wrote:
Reports say the ship lost power (no steering etc.) and radioed the port people in time for the police to stop cars from going onto the bridge, so only a few were on it. A work crew of 8 was on the bridge and so far they have found two of them, both alive but one with bad injuries and rushed to the hospital. Sonar does show some cars in the 50' deep water.

In the pictures that ship had a max load and in my opinion the containers were stacked too high. A huge "sail" area for wind to push on. Even with full power, a ship loaded like that would be hard to control in a cross wind. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
Reports say the ship lost power (no steering etc.... (show quote)


Careful about a rush to judgment regarding the container stack height. The loading of that ship doesn't seem to be much different from other large container ships.
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Mar 26, 2024 12:34:57   #
Photos from the bridge collapse:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/photos-baltimores-francis-scott-key-bridge-collapse-124703206.html
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Mar 26, 2024 10:35:12   #
Longshadow wrote:
Overkill. For me.
But, I may be hard pressed to find another 1TB drive.
Looks like the "smallest" keeps getting larger.
So I'd get a 2Tb then.

Besides, the larger drives may be SMR instead of CMR. I prefer CMR.
But Ill eventually get forced into larger drives, won't I.
Attrition. Just like memory cards.


4TB is also more than I need. I bought the Samsung T7 2TB about a year and a half ago and I'm very happy with it. A good, rugged product. I don't travel with it but you never know when you might drop one.
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Mar 26, 2024 09:04:51   #
Longshadow wrote:
That would be WAY overkill for me! I'd never even come close to using a quarter of that space.
Price wise ($70-85), the 1TB Passport Ultra drives are QUITE ample for my needs.
My laptop has a 512GB drive in it.
I only use the Passport for travel backup for the laptop.
I will never need 4TB for images when traveling. Never.

At home, stuff on the laptop that I want backed up is copied to the desktop, which is backed up.


Why the emphatic quadruple shout that there is no place for the Samsung T7 in your life? 😱
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Mar 25, 2024 09:27:45   #
pecohen wrote:
I have pondered this issue myself. I have more pictures than I need and there is no wall space for any more. I don't sell them so I get no income from this activity. When I travel (which is not so often any more) I take a lot of pictures and make videos from them; I watch the videos occasionally but now have seen all of the many times. So why am I still taking pictures?

I think of it as similar to people who do catch-and-release fishing. It's a hobby, something I enjoy doing. With digital photography you are not even polluting significantly, it gets you outside for shooting and gives you something interesting to do editing; it's harmless and fun. That's why I keep doing it.
I have pondered this issue myself. I have more pi... (show quote)


Some good thoughts there, pecohen....
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