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Feb 17, 2021 18:27:20   #
bdk wrote:
Cut her pic out, paste it in front of the eiffel tower, on the beach etc
she might love that.
I shot a wedding at a small church right on the water. The plan was to have pix taken on the beach.
It poured all day, beach pix wasnt happening. I got a bunch of pix with the B&G against a white wall.
a few days later I went back to the church and shot pix of the beach and water and put them in those pic. They were not the best in the world but the B&G loved them.


I like that. You went above and beyond.
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Feb 17, 2021 18:24:38   #
Horseart wrote:
Look, it's not about bokeh. Bokeh is great if used right and to throw a bride out of focus at the most special event in her life is not OK by any means. You have gotten a lot of good advice here, especially good from 2 of our hoggers. Learn from it and never throw another bride away at her own wedding! I am not a wedding photographer (I have done a few and they were very tiring, but the couples were pleased) but ALL of us know what wedding pictures should look like. They should be fabulous. No one here is trying to insult you or make you feel bad. Everyone is just telling you that you made mistakes and trying to help. I hope this thread has helped you see your mistakes and that you do much better from here on.
Look, it's not about bokeh. Bokeh is great if used... (show quote)


Thank you. The previous couple was overjoyed and I used the same exact lens. I should have met with the bride and interviewed her even though it was short notice.
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Feb 17, 2021 18:21:18   #
sippyjug104 wrote:
I've heard of quick weddings due to shotguns however I have never heard of a quick wedding due to COVID-19. 🤣


Yes I’ve been getting calls from brides that want to give me three days notice because their plans fell through because of Covid. Everyone is doing quickie weddings. Two weeks ago the couple went to the courthouse to get married and just wanted me to show up at the original venue to take some pictures. The session lasted an hour and a half. They loved the pictures and they were the ones that demanded the outtakes, the subject of my previous post.
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Feb 17, 2021 18:16:10   #
sippyjug104 wrote:
I've heard of quick weddings due to shotguns however I have never heard of a quick wedding due to COVID-19. 🤣
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Feb 17, 2021 18:07:50   #
Fredrick wrote:
If I read your post correctly, it sounds like the bride was upset because a number of images of her were out of focus. And the groom was in focus. Kind of says it all.

I recently remarried, and when we got our proofs back from the professional photographer, most of the outdoor images were over exposed. I asked her what that was all about, and she said “oh, I’ve just started shooting images with an ethereal effect.”

Sometimes wedding photographers need to leave some of their creative photography skills at home.
If I read your post correctly, it sounds like the ... (show quote)


He has some photographers don’t know how to do the “light and airy” thing. They just overexpose and that’s not what it’s all about. And then the bride 20 years later go back and look at her pictures and they look like shit.
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Feb 17, 2021 18:05:08   #
chfrus wrote:
I also believe that the bride is responsible. She should have asked to see his work. But in my experience they are looking for a cheap out. I can't blame her for that though because weddings are expensive.


They called me with 24 hrs notice and they had a chance to look at my website. Also I did work fir the groom in the past.
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Feb 17, 2021 18:02:47   #
Horseart wrote:
You got clear pictures of the groom and shot the bride out of focus on purpose. What were you thinking? Did you think the wedding was all about the groom? WOW. A wedding photographer should know better. It's about both of them and SHE is the one wanting great pictures...UNBELIEVABLE!


No I did it both ways and also both in focus but I think it was the fact that in most of the shots the background was out of focus.
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Feb 17, 2021 18:00:51   #
insman1132 wrote:
Do you not have a demo photo album that you sit down with the couple and show your styles of work?? Or review your website postings while sitting with them?? You might think of doing so, and that gives you an opportunity to learn their favorites and not-so-favorites proor to the event..



There was no time. It was literally 24 hrs notice. They looked at my website.
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Feb 17, 2021 17:58:39   #
yssirk123 wrote:
I did wedding for about 10 years, until a hip problem made the 12 hour days untenable. Now might be a good time to review your own personal best practices.

There are many more things that could be added, but here a few suggestions based specifically on your present and prior posts.

I met with every bride and groom prior to the wedding, and showed them sample albums so they would understand my style of shooting to see if it met their needs.

I never shot a wedding without full equipment redundancy (cameras, flashes, cards, lenses, batteries) for both myself and my 2nd shooter. Additionally the cameras we used were capable of reasonably good high ISO performance.

Every proof set was carefully selected and renumbered in sequential order prior to giving them to the couple.

Now is the ideal time for you to look at your current practices and see if there is anything you would change based on your experience to date.

I hope the issues on this wedding are resolved to everyone's satisfaction, and that all your future efforts are successful.
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Thank you for your helpful and positive response.
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Feb 17, 2021 17:56:03   #
camerapapi wrote:
Why didn't you use flash? It would have given you the flexibility of using apertures like f8 to make more pleasing images to her. I perfectly understand that she knows nothing about photography but you also have to understand that for a majority of people the images have to be well in focus or they are not acceptable for them. You cannot use your interpretation of art to please others.


I hate flash. Unless you drag the shutter the background is black and the couple gets bombarded with spectral light. There are shadows everywhere too
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Feb 17, 2021 17:53:58   #
brian43053 wrote:
This is a perfect example that you need to meet with any client beforehand to discussion how everything should go. They tell you their wants and you judge if you can meet their needs or not. I hope you learned a valuable lesson from this.


You’re right it was a rush job at the last minute.
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Feb 17, 2021 17:53:11   #
Decenter wrote:
Fotoman, First off, I have to say, your attitude sucks............calling the bride left brained(?) give me a break. The bride is the star of the show. She is the one to make happy, not you, not the groom. If you are shooting weddings with a camera that does not handle low light, your using the wrong camera. Not all weddings are going to be well lit. In the case of low light, never heard of a flash? Showing a website means absolutely nothing, everyone knows that website design and uploading is not done in one day and you have all the second chances in the world. This is someone's memories that you screwed up for "artistic interpretation".
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I hate flash. The pictures were fine. I wish I had more time to find out she didn’t like pictures with bokeh. That’s tha mistake I made.
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Feb 17, 2021 17:47:01   #
Kmgw9v wrote:
This is just weird. If the bride is not in focus, that is failure and bad images; not artistic interpretation, no matter how drunk one might be.


I shots it three ways. Her out him out and some where everything was in focus. But most of the shots were with the background out of focus. She interpreted anything blurry to a bad shot.
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Feb 17, 2021 17:43:36   #
SonyBug wrote:
I remember once talking to a pro wedding photographer in Nashville. He said, "I shoot some shots for the client, and some shots for me." So, did you shoot for you or the client?


Both but most of the shots blurred the background.
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Feb 17, 2021 17:42:21   #
dsmeltz wrote:
Maybe I am misunderstanding, but are you saying many or most of the shots that included the bride and anything else the shot focused on the anything else? The primary focus of a wedding is the bride. The groom will usually be quite content out of focus. It is preparation for married life.


I varied it. I shot some with both in focus and then him and her in focus alternately. I also shot some with a small aperture. But most of the shots were with the 85mm. You could only see the couple in focus and the church was blurred out. She interpreted anything that was blurred as out of focus and therefore unacceptable.
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