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Apr 10, 2024 01:48:12   #
User ID wrote:
One day we arranged a badly composed still life with uglee lighting, as a "demonstration", and posted it to the Gallery. Our sole hook was that all the content was vintage photo relic items. Plenty of little short compliments poured forth, as per the custom for Gallery pix. Or maybe it was in the Critique section. But nevertheless, the little kneejerk kudos were dutifully heaped thereupon. You cant provoke any negative replies even if you try.


You didn't try hard enough. Portrait of a propane tank. Critique? I think I need to buy a mirrorless camera. That fixes everything.


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Apr 9, 2024 19:29:24   #
BebuLamar wrote:
There is some guy said he used bios from another company (not adaptec) and it has more functionality but he didn't say anything about drive size.
Attached are screen shots.
First picture is the screen shot with a 500GB drive. Right after that it would go to boot.
Second picture is the screen shot with the 1TB drive. I have made 2 500GB partitions on it and format them as NTFS.
The SATA controller got the name of the drive but that is. It hangs there.


I have no ideas. I'm not familiar with having to configure such a thing or why you're seeing this screen if you're simply trying to install Windows on this drive. The Windows installation should see the drive and install Windows on it. A Bios update on a 20 year old machine is going to be very hard to find.
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Apr 9, 2024 18:49:27   #
There are people on UHH who are hung up on the technical side of things, and there are people who post photos to share the joy they experienced in a place or at an event. It's just poison when they cross paths. I remember someone going ballistic when another criticized a photo that they posted without asking for advice, and they left the forum. I think that sometimes those positive responses to snapshots that are posted are just to say that they share the feelings that the photos represent.
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Apr 9, 2024 10:19:50   #
jerryc41 wrote:
I was using a 2008 Sony camcorder yesterday, along with three other camcorders and two GoPros, so I got lots of footage. It turns out the touch screen on that old Sony does not work, so there was no way to see the video. I removed the 60GB hard drive, but the single ribbon connector is different from anything I have. Someone online replaced the HDD with an SSD, but the SSD would have to be made specifically for a camcorder. Still, that wouldn't help me get the video off the drive. Instead, I ordered a new LCD, and that should give me access to the workings of the camcorder, although it will arrive too late for this project.

Remember, if you shoot an important event with one camera, you'd better hope it's in perfect condition.
I was using a 2008 Sony camcorder yesterday, along... (show quote)


I have a little Sony camcorder HDR CX-230 that is possibly a bit newer than yours. It has an attached USB cable that is used for charging the battery. If I plug it into a computer and turn on the camcorder, the computer sees it as another drive, just like with a phone or tablet. I can find the video on the hard drive by looking around and transfer it to the computer. (In a "Stream" folder) Mine also has a card I put in it. I can see that too. Is this a possibility for you?
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Apr 8, 2024 23:11:06   #
BebuLamar wrote:
I mount the drive on a Win10 computer and it said Master Boot Record.


At least you ruled that out.
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Apr 8, 2024 15:54:50   #
kpmac wrote:
Nice set.


Thanks to all who enjoyed these pictures. If the little ones come around after this, I'll share photos of them.
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Apr 8, 2024 15:01:22   #
TriX wrote:
Therwol’s suggestion could also be correct - GPT is fairly recent, and a BIOS looking for MBR won’t “understand” GPT/UEFI


He's trying to use this drive in a 20 year old machine. If he's using a drive that was initialized GPT, he won't get very far. I'm just asking him to check. There may be other issues as well. I don't know about all of the operating systems, but Windows 10/11 automatically initialize new drives to GPT and also during the installation of Windows.
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Apr 8, 2024 12:55:13   #
BebuLamar wrote:
I delete the partition. The drive has no partition. It has nothing on it. It's installed as the boot drive. I am going to install an OS on it once the computer (not OS) recognizes the drive and goes thru the bios loading. I would boot it up with a USB thumb drive or CD to install the OS.


I thought that deleting all partitions and reformatting "cleaned" the drive. It does not remove the partition style. Humor me. Connect the drive to a newer computer. In Disk Management, right click on the drive and choose properties. Then this. Do you see this? If you do, you need to change it to MBR. There is more than one method. Will this solve your problem? I don't know, but it might.


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Apr 8, 2024 12:34:26   #
BebuLamar wrote:
I have this computer (made about 2004) I added the SATA interface card around 2006 or so. Yesterday I mount a 1TB drive to it and it hang. The BIOS would recognize the drive but then hang right there and didn't go on. The drive is good as I mount it on the newer computer and it works fine. I mount a 500GB drive and it works. So I wonder since this card is old I think it's SATA 1 (it's an Adaptec card) and it has a size limit some how?


Are you putting this in a machine as a secondary drive or as the primary drive on which to install an OS? Is it new or did you take it out of a newer machine where it had been in use.

My 17 year old Dell laptop only supports drives with the MBR partition style. A drive taken out of a newer machine might have used GPT. This is how I found out. I cloned the old HDD of this computer using Macrium Reflect. (SATA to USB adaptor) The "new" drive had been taken out of another newer computer. The new drive had been initialized GPT. Reformatting the drive for the cloning did not change that. Macrium could see it, and I thought all was well. When I swapped the drives, the laptop could not see or read it. Booting gave a "No OS Found" error message. I converted the drive to MBR, cloned again, and all was well. I don't remember how I did it, but I believe you can do it from Windows installation media or on another computer that can see the drive. Google can tell you how.

Is this the problem? I don't know, but I thought it was worth mentioning.


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Apr 7, 2024 21:47:49   #
SX2002 wrote:
Lovely set...
Ron.


Thank you!
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Apr 7, 2024 19:09:23   #
The little ones will be around before you know it. These turkeys hung around our house in large numbers for about a week.


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Apr 7, 2024 17:36:33   #
BebuLamar wrote:
I have this computer (made about 2004) I added the SATA interface card around 2006 or so. Yesterday I mount a 1TB drive to it and it hang. The BIOS would recognize the drive but then hang right there and didn't go on. The drive is good as I mount it on the newer computer and it works fine. I mount a 500GB drive and it works. So I wonder since this card is old I think it's SATA 1 (it's an Adaptec card) and it has a size limit some how?


I don't know if this helps. I'm on a 2007 Dell laptop. It was the first or second year of Dell putting an SATA interface in their laptops. I have a Samsung 1TB SSD in this thing with a dual boot configuration, Windows 7, 32 bit and Windows 10, 64 bit. Surprise, it runs both just fine. I won't go into all of the reasons why I hang onto this thing. Just look at the screenshots.




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Apr 7, 2024 09:45:50   #
DirtFarmer wrote:
There were at least two strategies for resorting a deck of cards

(1) the last 8 columns of the cards were punched (and printed) with an index number. It could be alphameric if your deck was really large.

(2) a sharpie could be used to draw a diagonal line on the edge of the deck. Different patterns and/or colors could be used for large decks. (Yes, they had sharpies in antiquity, but they were called something else then).

(2) was laborious hand work. Some more experienced among us could probably come up with other methods. I think the largest deck I ever had was about 2 boxes.

As far as pranks go, when computers got to do multitasking and you had a room full of teletypes, you would find someone's teletype number and send them an obscure error message.
There were at least two strategies for resorting a... (show quote)


I suppose we're getting off topic here, and I hope that the OP got the information they requested earlier.

One hack with punch cards was to go to the keypunch rooms late at night and empty the trays under the machines that contained the "chips" that were punched out of the cards. Once you got a large quantity, you'd get into someone's dorm room and spread them all over the place, on and in their furniture, clothing, bed etc. It would be a very difficult clean up.

I took a programming course as a freshman in college and watched as paper from a line printer was spewing out of it. Some "hacker" student had put the command to skip a page in a loop in a stack of cards. The grad student operator became livid and yelled at everyone waiting for their printouts.

The transition to time sharing and programming into terminals was taking place during my college years. You would get CPU seconds to run your programs, and you might have to ask for more if you ran out.
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Apr 6, 2024 19:47:46   #
DaveyDitzer wrote:
The floppies and any magnetic tape will degrade because the particles will move out of alignment due to "relaxation" of the polymer matrix in which the particles are embedded. That's why old VHS tapes, even when not played, turn crappy (sorry about technical terms:) Ditto cassette tapes.


Watch this. What a coincidence that this popped up on my news feed. The San Francisco trains depend on floppy discs to run?????? 5 inch, no less. Unmute the video to hear the story.

https://abc7news.com/san-francisco-train-system-has-been-running-on-floppy-disks-but-city-fears-catastrophic-failure-before-upgrade/14624828/
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Apr 6, 2024 13:32:24   #
DirtFarmer wrote:
Pure hype.

The maximum lifetime of any style of storage medium these days is probably less than 50 years. After that, the medium could be readable but the technology will have moved on so that you no longer can buy the readers/writers or update the drivers to new operating systems. How long did people use floppy disks? CDs/DVDs? Technology moving on will also mean that you will need larger capacity storage devices. The first home computers had less than a megabyte of storage. Now we're using Terabytes. What will we need in 50 years? (The M-discs are only around 100 Gbytes last I heard). 1000 years? What kind of data storage did they have in 1024? Printing wasn't even invented then.

Part of backup/archiving is Maintenance. That includes transferring your data to newer technology storage systems as they become available (and tested). It also includes verifying your data so it is not corrupted by the transfer.
Pure hype. br br The maximum lifetime of any styl... (show quote)


The 1000 year longevity of M-Discs only refers to the media. Everything you say is true, but to a few people, that's what matters now. Yes, we went from punch cards to paper tape to magnetic tape to big floppies to little floppies to various flavors of hard drives along the way to the current ones. We have cloud storage. Operating systems have changed. We can only know what we know now and use our best judgement. It is inevitible that new technology and protocols will come along. One thing for certain is that if you have a reader, your data on M-Discs will be intact for your lifetime. If you must know, I've only used M-Discs to archive rare movies I've come across. I don't use them to archive files. I'm comfortable with triple backing up my files with one copy offsite and my most important files in the cloud. It's a judgement call.

Just a brief story. When floppies were king, I put a lot of files on them. Most of them are of no value to me now, but when I tried to view them to decide what to keep, about half of the floppies couldn't be read. Longevity can matter.
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