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Apr 14, 2020 16:53:24   #
DirtFarmer wrote:
That means that more frequent testing is necessary. 3 million tests is only 1% of the population tested once. We need a billion tests, probably more.

If we are going to open up the economy again we absolutely need testing to ensure that the workers are not going to infect the customers and vice versa. And in addition to testing we need to trace the contacts to try to put the tests in the right places, and make sure infected people are quarantined.


Again, I am NOT saying testing wouldn't help to get things identified and make people feel safer (key word FEEL). Let me ask you what you are going to do when you test every single person in the US ? What then ? Oh, yeah - nothing ! Should we ship them off to a place we don't like ? Maybe colonize the moon ? Maybe permanently mark them so everyone would know to avoid them ?

And why not then do the same with an even MORE deadly virus year after year ? Should we test for influenza ? At least that has a course of treatment and also a somewhat effective vaccine. Oh but then the Californians will rail against getting the vaccine because they saw somewhere that it causes autism.

Too many have jumped on the media train that claims testing is the answer. Its not. Testing is useful but unless you can completely separate the infected from the uninfected all it will do is help to identify people who may need help sooner than when they present at the ER.

It is still not known if or how long the virus is viable on surfaces. So do we throw out any packaged food made before the 100% testing level is reached ? What about the machinery that is used in other industry ? Those are the answers we need to identify and drop the silly argument about testing. It would help, but its not the answer.
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Apr 14, 2020 16:31:46   #
michaelsinger wrote:
Funny, you sound like Donald Trump and that doesn't sound good. Testing,testing, testing. is the only way to get a handle on this pandemic. And he lies about how much we are doing. That's what the scientists say. Your logic is just that logic disconnected from the real world, just like our president. Your suggestions about who can and who shouldn't go back to work will only bring us a new wave of disease. China which loosened the quarenteen is now reporting new cases. WHAT A SURPRISE!!!! What you are spreading is silly if it weren't so deadly. Stop it. Stay home and please stop these half-truths which will only cause more pain.
Funny, you sound like Donald Trump and that doesn'... (show quote)


assuming you are responding to my post since you didn't identify what you are responding to ...

Are you willing to base your safety on what I was exposed to only prior to the testing ? Or are you suggesting every single person should be tested hourly ? every minute ? every second ? Talk about disconnected from the real world. Most 'scientists' do not have access to the number of tests administered or the results of those tests. That is why the media quotes 'scientists' and lets people think an opinion from them is more valuable than people who actually know. Its their belief that they are describing the situation accurately but are unable to support their words. Saw an 'expert' and a 'scientist' quoted in the media about what needs to be done. The expert was a psychiatrist and the scientist a cancer researcher. Neither had any viral or epidemiology research or background - but they were 'experts' as identified by the media.

I am directly connected to an individual who is part of the group which developed what is believed to be (and tests have shown to be) a workable vaccine at UPMC. THAT is what is needed. Quit worshiping at the feet of the media and find out facts. If you did, you would find that most of what is being reported by the media is grossly inaccurate and supposition. For you to even remotely suggest that testing will do anything to stop the transmission of the virus is ridiculous and worse, promotes more false narratives that sell more fearmongering media.

Do you know what the treatment course is for those positively identified with the Corona virus ? They are told to go home and call the hospital if they have trouble breathing. UPMC has pioneered a telehealth initiative which closely monitors this patient group but can do nothing for them until they hit a crisis. How will testing everybody change that ? There are people who have tested positive who still don't isolate because they don't feel that bad - how is testing going to stop that ?

Look to the CDC and Johns Hopkins for the information and you will find what is reported are half truths and inconsistent with actual data.

Admit it - you are a media person just trying to cause people to believe something rather than giving factual information aren't you ???? Or maybe you are just another person who has been trained by the media to start yelling and complaining if they hear the name Trump used even if they didn't hear or understand the context.
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Apr 14, 2020 12:59:11   #
DirtFarmer wrote:
I don't believe that full employment can begin until we get testing under control. Testing, isolation, and traceback. This virus is very infectious and those steps are needed to protect people out among the public.

So the US has done a lot of testing????? Really? How many tests? 100,000? 1,000,000? If we've done a million tests we have only tested 0.3% of the population. Less than that because some have gotten tested more than once. I think we are really in need of a billion tests or more. If we can test, we can limit exposure. And the testing has to be followed up on.

There is just too much about this disease we don't know yet. Will you have immunity if you recover from it? How fast is it likely to mutate (getting it out of possible immunity control)?

If we send everyone back to work without any mitigation measures in place we risk a resurgence, leading to a larger problem than we have now.

If there's one thing that everyone knows about themselves it is that they are an above average driver.
I don't believe that full employment can begin unt... (show quote)


The testing fallacy is that it indicates the person is "well". Testing indicates that there is no virus present at the time of the test. Five seconds later, if the person comes in contact with the virus, the test is invalid. So with testing all measures of isolation must be used post-test including contact with others and contact with potentially affected surfaces and foods. I am not saying testing doesn't help but unless you wrap the person in plastic and make sure anything they ingest is 'clean' you cannot guarantee the infection status of the tested person for very long.
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Apr 14, 2020 12:10:49   #
Salespro2 wrote:
Hi! Looking for specific best apps to create photo books. Easy to use, quality work. Any suggestions?
Thanks
Ed


If looking for a company to print a book that also allows you to format according to templates or completely custom, look at Printerpix.com. They are good in price and very good in quality. Go to Groupon for big discounts at Printerpix and you can do a fairly inexpensive book to test quality and customization capabilities. I have been using them for a few years and the book quality pretty much matches the more expensive companies. With Groupon, its downright CHEAP ! Just keep in mind that in addition to the printing there is a separate shipping fee that is normally $20 for any number of books or prints shipped as part of the same order. Have had 6 books shipped for the same $20 shipping.

I also use them for metal prints are am extremely happy with their pricing and quality. Recently did a triptych in metal that looks fantastic on my wall
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Apr 10, 2020 13:41:29   #
johngault007 wrote:
If you have the budget, and want to stay with Canon, L series lenses will give you the best results.


BUT......

I have a T7i and have used the EFS 10-18, EFS 18-55, EFS 55-250 and thought the same thing. The more proficient I get with post processing, I'm realizing as I go back and practice on older files, that these lenses do very very well. It's really just a combination of refining your shooting technique, knowledge, and (if you post process), more experience and ability with that program.
If you have the budget, and want to stay with Cano... (show quote)


For slightly less expensive glass - look at the ART series lenses from Sigma. Canon L glass is best but I have a Sigma 18-50 1:2.8-4.5 DC lens that i use on my 70D. The Sigma is as almost as good as my Canon glass. Very slightly more corner brightness and sharpness with the L but unless you are doing side by side comparison like I did, you won't see it. Lightroom lens profiles automatically correct the very slight imperfections so if you use lightroom you will never see the issue.
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Apr 9, 2020 12:17:13   #
Rsangha wrote:
I have a Canon 6D (with Canon EF 24-70mm F4L IS USM lens) that has been working fine for last 4 years. Then starting about a month ago started getting occasional Error 1 (failure of communications between camera and lens). Googled topic on YouTube and tried the recommended solution of cleaning the contacts on camera and lens - using a drop pf 77% alcohol. This fixed the problem for a few days - then same problem. So cleaned again but the Error 1 still persists. Noticed that it usually happens only when the lens is zoomed to 50 to 70mm.
Never when wide open at 24mm (at least so far). Anyone have any comments or suggestions?
I have a Canon 6D (with Canon EF 24-70mm F4L IS US... (show quote)


As rjriggins11 said my suspicion is with some Canon lenses (don't have the list in front of me) there is a problem with the internal ribbon connector wearing out in the lens and when the lens is extended, the wires in the ribbon cable have a break in them. when the lens is not at max extension, the wires will touch and act as if not broken. If other lenses work, I would talk to Canon (or rjriggins11) and potentially send the lens for repair.

Since you said your lens works on other bodies though, not sure if this is the answer. Although keep in mind that older bodies may use slightly different interfaces and possibly not involve the wire that is broken.

good luck and let us know what you find
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Apr 9, 2020 12:10:26   #
will47 wrote:
One of the photos I was referring to in my last post. I think these greens are way oversaturated and I want to correct that.


looks to me (because its jpg) that you have your camera picture style set to vivid. Select neutral or faithful style and you should see what you want.
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Mar 31, 2020 11:12:19   #
rmalarz wrote:
Hi, PGH. First off, thank you for the compliment. In all reality, since I push my exposures as much as each camera will allow, I get a lot of 'red' areas and warnings when I first open a photo in ACR. If I didn't, I'd be surprised.

To quote Scott Kelby, "Another cause of clipping is when you’re editing the photo in Camera Raw. You could have increased the Exposure amount (or Whites or Highlights sliders) enough to create clipping that wasn’t in the photo. Hey, it happens. If you know what you’re doing, it might be okay. More on that later."

The warning areas fall along those lines. I'm not as familiar with the internal workings of ACR but know how to use it effectively. It's similar to not knowing the intimate chemical processes involved in developing film but being able to control tonal qualities of a negative to produce the densities desired.
--Bob
Hi, PGH. First off, thank you for the compliment. ... (show quote)


OK - thanks for the info. Was thinking the ACR screenshot was un-manipulated (SOOC) but realize thats really not possible when looking at RAW. Absolutely not questioning your skills or your results just trying to duplicate them ! Wouldn't mind having some of those result attached to my name !

Keep posting - always enjoy your photos and info.
-- Ken --
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Mar 31, 2020 08:49:29   #
rmalarz wrote:
I'm not sure that this is the best place to post this but the only other which I could consider is Post Processing. This requires processing but most are done prior to taking the photograph.

As many of you know, I believe in two photographic techniques The Zone System (TZS) and the use of ETTR and EBTR to do the vast majority of my digital photographs. Similar to, but opposite, the way The Zone System, as used with film, these techniques allow for better control in placing selected exposure values in an appropriate Zone. With film one meters the shadow (dark) area of the scene and then exposes to place that area in the appropriate Zone, as the photographer chooses. In processing the film, the highlight areas of the scene are controlled by the processing.

In digital photography, when using TZS and ETTR/EBTR, things work the opposite. The metering is done on the brightest parts of the scene and exposing in such a manner as to place those highlights in the appropriate Zone. That is, the brightest areas of the scene are exposed in such a manner as to place them just shy of the sensor overexposing. The dark areas of the scene are controlled by processing in an appropriate software package. My preference is Photoshop.

Recently, I purchased a digital back for my Hasselblad 500c/cm. As with any new film, camera, lens or sensor, I tested it. These are structured lab tests, not just a few random photos taken around the neighborhood. This testing would determine how much additional exposure I could apply before the image of a test chart was not capable of being adjusted to its original appearance. After determining the capabilities of the sensor, it was time to take the camera out and do a few photographs with it. The Grand Canyon was a planned trip. So, it was as good a place as any to put the experimental data to use.

Here's where the luck figured in. The manufacturers of the back include, in the kit, a mask that shows the portion of the viewfinder that is going to be captured by the smaller sensor. (see image 1) There were several included in the "kit". One of them was made of transparent gray plastic. Now, the metering viewfinder I use reads the entire focusing screen area. Thus, the transparent gray mask is going to reduce the amount of light the meter actually sees.

As such, the meter will indicate a setting which is more exposure than if the mask weren't there. By luck, the exposure reading is the same as the additional amount of exposure I'd have needed to "calculate" to produce an ideally exposed image for processing. Thus, I can simply meter the scene, set the exposure to what the meter indicates and I have a sufficient amount of additional exposure to push the image the appropriate amount to the right.

So, now to the Grand Canyon photograph.

The first image shows the viewfinder with the mask in place.

The second image shows a screenshot of ACR prior to adjustments.

The third shows the SOOC image.

The fourth image shows the image in PS after my usual adjustments are made in ACR.

The fourth shows the black and white conversion and finished "print".

One of the added benefits of Exposing To The Right and Exposing Beyond The Right is that the inherent noise within each photosite of the sensor is masked by the additional light allowed to reach each photosite.
--Bob
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Great shot as always. One question: shouldn't your technique have prevented the clipping as shown in ACR or would that just be part of the compensation you still need to tweak for the mask area ? I understand your process but with the digital back, is the specific metering you need not possible if the goal is to eliminate clipping ? Just curious.
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Mar 26, 2020 14:33:02   #
olddutch wrote:
The fault is where the highway dept places the Deer Crossing signs. They should place them only in open areas where you can see them.


I don't think that would work. The deer never seem to read the signs or else they are intentionally ignoring them !!
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Mar 26, 2020 14:05:47   #
CaptainBobBrown wrote:
A nurse at our local medical oncology clinic ranted to us yesterday about "how overblown" she thought our state's and the media's response to the epidemic was. Tried to acquaint her with the most recent data from Johns Hopkins and CDC on global and U.S. mortality rates but she'd have none of it. She insisted that the mortality rate from influenza is "ten times" what we've seen from Covid-19. Here are the facts for the U.S. according to CDC:

In 2019 there were an estimated 32.5 million cases of influenza with a mortality rate of 0.09%. (Thats 9/100 of 1 percent)
So far the over 500,000 cases of Covid-19 worldwide have an average mortality rate of 4% and in the U.S. so far it's 1.4%. If one applied the 1.4% mortality rate to the number of influenza cases in the U.S. so far we'd have about 455,000 deaths from influenza whereas the actual number is estimated at 32,000.

Put another way:
In the U.S. the number of cases of Covid 19 is growing at an exponential rate except where "drastic" measures to reduce the infection rate are starting to work. Let's say we end up with only 3 million Covid-19 infections confirmed by testing. We'll have 42,000 deaths (but that 1.4% mortality rate can't hold when hospital capacity to deal with severe respiratory distress is completely overwhelmed so it will be much worse). But, if we had 32.5 million cases at "only" 1.4% mortality rate we'd have 455,000 deaths.

The upside of this is that the majority of this nearly half million cases will be in those locations which take no effective measures to reduce the infection rate and so reap the rewards of inaction. Also, the majority will apparently be among seniors or the immuno compromised and they're just a drain on the economy anyway. For example, the Social Security Trust Fund would suddenly have a windfall. The politicians responsible for the windfall through their inaction might be able to loot the Fund (for the benefit of their constituents of course).

We're well on our way to fitting the Italian experience curve where hospital capacity is overwhelmed so our currently "modest" mortality rate of 1.4% is going to start to approach or exceed the average global mortality rate of 4% (or above) as hospitals start to refuse to care for the oldest or most likely to not make it. Let's say that we manage to hold our mortality rate to 3% (33 times the mortality rate from influenza in the U.S.) and have "only" 1 million Covid-19 cases in the U.S. this year. We'll see 30,000 or nearly the same number of deaths from Covid 19 as the CDC estimates from influenza but when it returns next year we'll be much less prepared because the health providers cohort will be decimated. This is a very conservative estimate of how bad Covid-19 could get in this country so please don't rant to anyone you actually care about that efforts to reduce infection rates are "overblown".

Overblown? Bah! Fill the churches at Easter. It's the Christian thing to do.
A nurse at our local medical oncology clinic rante... (show quote)


I wish people would understand the statistics they quote. Mortality rates are in terms of confirmed infections. If every single person is not tested then you don't know what % will not make it. Many who have come in contact with the virus may never experience symptoms or think it was a minor cold and recovered. So the mortality rate is based on a invalid sample size. As some 'experts' (whoever the media thinks they are) have been quoted as saying the real infection rate could be double or more than what has been confirmed. So the mortality rate is much lower.

Not saying to take things lightly - do what you can to protect yourself. But promoting the media lines about the catastrophic number "possible" only invites panic and terror. I work in healthcare and most practitioners are very concerned but nearly all have told me the same thing - the information given is true but not factual. There has not been enough hard evidence about much that is going on. We know that in similar cases, isolation, hand washing, and other best practices are proven to mitigate impacts of infectious disease. So it makes sense to do them and they encourage the practices as I do.

Too many chicken littles running around just as there are too many apathetic folks as well.

As an aside, my understanding is there is a significant number of people who may have died from cardiomyopathy rather than lung complications. This fact may also mess with the numbers because the cause of death may be from something other than the virus but also could be solely because of the virus.
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Mar 26, 2020 11:46:45   #
tfgone wrote:
Otherwise known as Keep apart. Don't know how you can be social and keep your distance. (Should be called "Self Isolation"

Just think. If we all stay in our homes :- No death due to Auto accidents or Road Rage
No Store robberies (They are all closed)
No drive by shooting deaths.
No work related deaths
No deaths due to other communicable diseases

Only deaths due to Suicides caused by boredom


And everybody dies of starvation !
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Mar 26, 2020 11:38:01   #
Howard5252 wrote:
Yes, it is harsh but you must remember who watches Tucker Carlson. President Trump has already started saying things like "We can do two things at the same time" and FOX News is echoing that. His meaning was the country can both fight the virus and people can go back to work. The fallacy is that going back to work cuts down on fighting the virus. Cutting down on the virus fight will lead to its spread and a rise in deaths. When the numbers start to rise, the virus could start claiming younger people - perhaps the grandchildren the governor claims he trying to save. Let's get our priorities straight ... the peoples' health should come before the health of the economy. It's not a pleasant choice, I understand this, but historically, the economy has always come back. When people die, they remain dead.
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The real difficulty is that if the economy tanks, even more will die from malnutrition or the government itself could collapse along with infrastructure. I am not advocating economy over people but if nobody has money to pay for anything more businesses close and more people are out of work. Which closes more businesses. So now we have millions of people sitting at home and no income. No goods being made because the business can't sell anything.

The message is that some risk is necessary. I do not want to have to be the one to stand in front of the nation and say that we can stop the virus at the cost of nobody getting any food or water or electricity.

Rather than complaining about either party, EVERYONE needs to look at the bigger picture and think before they speak. I know its in vogue to bash our president or the other party but get your heads out of the sand and look at what is really happening before you start complaining. Its a bigger situation than you realize and needs a complex solution with everybody working together.
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Mar 24, 2020 12:08:25   #
Ichiban365 wrote:
I have recently purchased some point-and-shoot cameras from Craigslist. I am happy with their condition except for one thing. They both have picked up strong odors from their previous homes. One is a perfume smell, the other more a tobacco/masculine smell. Anything bought from a thrift store also tends to pick up a store odor.

Does anyone have suggestions on how to remove these odors? Leaving the cameras out in the sunlight is one possibility, but then they can get too hot for the electronics. Has anyone tried the ozone generators I see on eBay and amazon, for example?

Suggestions welcome.
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Just a comment. I have noticed that people who use those little plug-in devices don't realize that it permeates everything. Used equipment I have purchased stinks of it. With asthma and severe allergies - I let it sit in the garage for a few weeks - sometimes longer. I often have a reaction when standing next to people because their clothes reek of it too.

If you are one of those households that thinks a strong flowery odor smells 'clean' or 'fresh' please think about how people around you are affected. Clean has no smell !

Anybody else need this soapbox ? I am done with it now !
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Mar 23, 2020 08:28:39   #
Travelin' Bud wrote:
Hi. I've tried Googling this but not really sure what I'm reading. I've been following DIY Infrared Cameras on Ebay and most seem to say "full spectrum" and show color photos as examples. I am wondering if the cameras also take the infrared black n whites that I am intrigued with. The sellers don't seem to know. ???

Are there TWO different infrared conversions; one full spectrum for color and one for b&w ? Are the b&w "heat generated " photos.

Sorry, I'm confused.... and cheap. Want something inexpensive to see just how much I would use it before I invest more.

Thanks
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I also encourage you to look at LifePixel.com . The 'full spectrom' includes normal light as well as infra red and ultraviolet. The choices for the IR filters is really well explained on the LifePixel site. Basically you choose how much visible lights gets through to the sensor. Its not cheap to do a conversion but not terribly expensive (I think when I converted my T2i it was right around $300 including shipping).
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