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Mar 4, 2015 14:24:57   #
I like it, almost a Mona Lisa smile! The graffiti is good, says "street", not studio.
J
Billyspad wrote:
A street portrait
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Mar 4, 2015 14:16:36   #
Could you please explain briefly how this is done?
Thanks, John
Indrajeet Singh wrote:
I do my own AF Fine Tuning for every lens I own to all the bodies I use. My Tammy runs at -2 on my D810. It used to work well at O on my D7100.
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Feb 27, 2015 00:17:14   #
I found your explanation very helpful, did go back to Sigma and read info on the dock again. It will be interesting to see how the customization button on the Sigma works and I wonder how much difference it will make to most people.
Thanks for your feedback.
J

cjc2 wrote:
JoBear: To find out exactly what you can do with Sigma's USB Dock, I suggest you go to their site and explore. I will, briefly, go over it at least from my perspective and offer my opinions.

This device is not required to operate this or any other Sigma lens. It will, according to Sigma, work on any Global Vision Lens which, to my understanding, includes the Sports, Contemporary and Art models. The various versions are each for a specific lens mount; mine is for the Nikon mount lenses.

Physically, this device attaches to the rear of a lens. A cord is attached which leads to a USB plug which is attached to your computer on which you run specific software, available, free of charge, from Sigma. As you are now "connected" to your individual lens, you can perform several functions. Should a lens firmware update be released, you can download it and apply it to your lens. This saves you the time and expense of sending the lens to Sigma should a firmware update be released. As a side note, I can do the same with my Nikon cameras and have done so on several occasions. In addition to being able to update the firmware, on the 150-600 Sport one can also setup the Custom switch which allows for two custom setups to be loaded to the lens and selected by the switch on the barrel of the lens. One can also set micro focus adjustments, directly to the lens instead of to the camera body. Focus speed as well as other things that I have yet to explore can also be adjusted to my personal liking.

In summary, I see the availability of Sigma's USB Dock as a welcomed addition to my toolset to assist me in getting the shots that I want MY way! I do not see it as a substitute for something that is lacking in the lens as delivered. Over time, as firmware is updated, I will be able to have the latest version in my copy of the lens quickly and without further expense. I will also be able to tailor my lens to my shooting style and make any changes that I might see necessary in the future. To me, this is a BIG advantage of all the newer Sigma lenses. My understanding is that the Contemporary version will also have this feature.

Whether or not any specific lens, from any manufacturer, will require fine tuning over its lifetime is most likely connected to the build quality and the care given or the owners' desire to go about photography in some different manner.

I hope my explanation has helped you.
JoBear: To find out exactly what you can do with ... (show quote)
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Feb 27, 2015 00:13:19   #
I did many shots, some hand held-stabilazation on-and some on tripod-stabilization off. Same results for both.
Thanks, J
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cjc2 wrote:
That sounds normal if you had the Stabilization on. It can't hurt to check though.
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Feb 26, 2015 14:09:26   #
Thanks Bill, probably will at least look at the Sigma Contemporary when it comes out in couple weeks -priced just 20 bucks more than Tamron, the big Tammy is still a possibility, just waiting to hear from others regarding the whole "docking and tuning" considerations.
J

Bill Emmett wrote:
First off, I own a Tamron 150-600mm and shoot with it on a regular basis. It has never given me one bit of a problem, and takes really great shots. I took it with me on my last trip to St. Maarten, and took some splendid shots while sport fishing. Since you just got your copy from the dealer, and have only taken just a few shots, I would think it was damaged in shipping. I've seen how rough both UPS, and FedEx treats the packages. I think I would have sent it in to Tamron for warranty repair. I would also stick to Tamron on this lens. I've seen some shots by the Sigma, the shots were of small birds on a feeder, and were only a negligible bit better. It took a good bit of pixel peeping to really tell anything. I don't think the difference warrants the extra $1000 for the Sigma.

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Feb 26, 2015 12:54:20   #
Chris, I agree as the photos I took were quite nice and I was extremely excited with the reach I now had and the quality of the photos - yes a bit soft at 600 but still good.

What I find troubling is the whole thing with the docking station. I still wonder whether the "big Tammy" (or comparably sized lens) will need to be "fine-tuned" as time goes by?

Sigma obviously thinks so, hence the docking station. Will Tamron owners find that their lens sharpness or ability to focus is degrading as time goes by? If so, what are the options? Is Tamron, as a regular practice going to spend their time tuning lens that are sent back? And who decides that it needs to be sent back (the owner obviously) but is Tamron going to agree with the owner that yes, you lens needs to be "tuned" or are they going to say, hey, its fine? I guess I wonder what is the "standard" to determine that the lens is, in fact out of tune?

Chris, you seem to indicate that this Sigma docking lens is also usable on other Sigma lenses? Does this mean that with my other Tamron lens, a 24-70, that I am perfectly happy with, will degrade - or is this need for a lens docking station only apply to the superlens (for lack of another term)?
Thanks!
J



cjc2 wrote:
First, Regis has had many fantastic shots taken with the Tamron so that one seems to work fine.

I was also interested in this lens after being lent one by Tamron for a short period of testing. I found it to be a bit soft at 600 but, for the price, a nice lens. When I received my copy, it failed within the first ten minutes, similar to your description, and that was on a D4s. After testing it on other bodies in the store, none of which worked, it was sent back to Tamron and I ordered a Sigma Sport, which I have had for about 5 (very cold here) months. IMHO, the Sigma Sport is head-and-shoulders better than the Tamron in all respects but, at twice the price ($ 2,000.00). Sigma will be releasing a Contemporary version mid March at a cost similar to the Tamron.

The Sigma USB dock, at $ 60, is, again IMHO, a really clever device I wish Nikon had done. While it does allow you to make micro focus adjustments right to the lens, it also allows quite a bit of other customization, and, very importantly, the ability to upgrade the lens' firmware WITHOUT having to send it back to the factory for service. To me, this is a huge advantage! That dock works with all of the newer Sigma lenses, so only needs to be purchased once.

Although I haven't had the ability, due to weather, to fully test my new Sigma, I am really looking forward to doing so. As soon as the weather warms it will be used for its original purpose of BIF (see Regis for fantastic shots with the Tamron) and also on the baseball, football, soccer, etc. field. When I do have some decent test shots, I will be posting them and I also plan to shoot with it against my 300/2.8 (similar weight) with a 1.4 and 2.0 TC for comparison. Perhaps I'll even compare with my 400/2.8, however, my real work will have to take priority.

In any case, I believe the Sigma Sport is a better lens, but that is just my opinion. Others may not agree.
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Feb 26, 2015 12:22:49   #
Stay tuned and thanks.
J
drbarrymary wrote:
I, also, am interested in this lens and would like to know what other have encountered. Thanks, Barry
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Feb 26, 2015 12:21:55   #
Thank you Speters, yes, not really apples to apples at that price, but they are coming out with Contemporary and I want to look at that as it is very similar I believe in specs and price. J

speters wrote:
The Sigma will most likely give you better image quality, but it also sells for twice the cost of the Tamron.
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Feb 26, 2015 12:19:43   #
Thanks Erictor, I also liked the final images and just need to decide if I am to buy another Tamron or not. I do want to investigate further any other options.
J
erickter wrote:
My tamron 150-600 woks flawlessly with my Canon 5ti and 4Ti. Tack sharp, brilliant colors, good contrast, focuses well. Also had one that worked on my Nikon d 700, and it performed great. Sold the 700, and exchanged the Nikon mount Tammy for the Canon mount. Happy camper.

Like the extra reach 1.6x gives me with the Crop sensor too. Effectively becomes 936mm with no quality loss or low light issues inherent with tele converters.
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Feb 26, 2015 12:03:41   #
Thanks Regis. You (and others) may be right, it may have been a lemon. I did like the images that I shot and noticed no degradation of the photos due to this issue that I had.
J
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Feb 25, 2015 17:36:45   #
They did pay for return and there was no hassle from them or the Vendor they were fronting.
Thanks!
John
nicksr1125 wrote:
Based on what has been posted here on the Hog, I suspect you got a lemon. Amazon did you right by issuing a return authorization. Did they also issue a prepaid return shipping label?

My recommendation would be to order the same lens from B&H. Amazon is good, B&H is outstanding in their customer service.
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Feb 25, 2015 17:30:25   #
I recently purchased, and since returned for refund, the Tamron 150-600. Although I loved it right away for the picture quality and the value, after going out twice for shooting I noticed that when pushing shutter down half way in AF, the image gave a slight jump while looking thru lens of the Canon 6d. It then would AF.

The next time I went out and the same thing happened but now the AF wasn’t working. I tried the lens on a second camera body (600d), same issue. I immediate tried two other lens on both bodies just to make sure it wasn’t a camera body issue. All worked fine.

Got a RA from Amazon and returned the lens, my purchase price was refunded with no problem within a few days after the camera had been returned (thru Amazon). Now I do want to purchase again but remembered some of issues regarding focusing that I read about on the HOG.

In looking possibly in getting another brand instead I was looking at the Sigma lens of the same size - both models. I see that Sigma sells a docking set separately in order to fine tune the focus on these lenses.

I also remember reading that many (or perhaps just some) of the Hoggers that have bought the lens also have some issues with the Tammy regarding focusing, (although maybe different from the issue I had.)

I realize that Tamron has firmware updates and it seems that the issue others were having with their focusing problems are now okay with firmware updates. Of course I believe all had to send their cameras to Tamron to get the update.

So several questions come to mind
Were the issues others had the same as mine or were they a different type of focus issue? From what I have seen on line it seems the focusing issue others have had relates more to the AF taking a long time to focus
Why does Sigma have this docking station available for focusing, do their lens have to be regularly updated with firmware to “fine-tune” or address focusing issues?
How does the typical owner of a Tamron “update” firmware? Does it always have to be shipped to Tamron? and will it have to be shipped every time they update firmware or only when there is an issues?
And do these particular lens, or other “long lens” as a general rule have to be updated regularly or just once to address a specific focusing issues, it seems mainly with Canon products.
And why doesn’t Tamron have a docking station for this purpose?


Thanks for your time, look forward to what others are experiencing so I can buy a lens soon:).
John
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Feb 20, 2015 12:55:21   #
Thanks for commenting, tis better!
J
R.G. wrote:
It really needed the whole of the big arch.
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Feb 19, 2015 23:05:06   #
Thanks for the input, I get down there about once a week and will try some other variations.
Gosh as for getting rid of that red tower, however is anyone going to follow that beacon to that particular brewery and get their beer ration:)??
Thank you for the feedback and to all at this site who contribute to the learning atmosphere.
You are right about the darkness at top o bridge, I can tone that up a bit.
John




lighthouse wrote:
I think this is a much stronger composition Jo.
It does away with the distracting element of the condos and lets the bridge lead in better.
I think the bridge benefits from the height as well.
It is good to see that you worked the scene a bit and took both landscape and portrait versions.
I do find the red tank a distraction and would tone that down a bit, or maybe even magic it away altogether.
This pic does highlight the inadequacies of ND grads in some situations. In this image it may have been better to take two images and do a blend, or to ETTR and selectively darken the image.
As it is, where the bridge has been darkened towards the top just doesn't quite look right.
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Feb 19, 2015 23:01:31   #
Thank you Linda.

Linda From Maine wrote:
I love this version! I've never seen the bridge in person, now I want to visit there. I agree with everything Minnie said (and I may have said in the other topic :) )

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