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Dec 12, 2023 22:21:14   #
lbrande wrote:
The only item I had said about me is that I'm Jewish and hav family living in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem and and also have classmates that live in Jerusalem and Haifa. I have family serving in the IDF, and have dual citizenship with Israel. If the Palestinian people want peace denounce hamas and show us


When the slaughter of innocents was brought up, you said they had their chance. What is one to make of that. I have not said one bad word about you that was because you are jewish. You might as well be baptist for all I'm concerned. We won't come to an understanding, I'm tired of fighting about it. Netanyahu and those who support him will not bring peace to Israel. Revenge can feel good but it is almost always counter productive. If you were Arab and spoke of Jews as you now speak of arabs, I would detest you just as much.
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Dec 12, 2023 22:14:42   #
Wyantry wrote:
Sounds like another bogus “research group” being paid to support particular outcomes.


Check her history and you'll see that she is easily taken in. She also gets testy when called on it.
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Dec 12, 2023 21:58:10   #
lbrande wrote:
I don't know what you're basing your conclusions upon, but it definitely isn't reality.


"There are 22 arab countries on the planet, let them live in one of them" This isn't going to go anywhere. I believe you told me earlier who you are. No comment on the other and older jewish country? These other arab countries don't even all follow the same religion. I think that was a very telling and a very ignorant statement. Netanyahu is not a friend of anyone but himself, and you sound like him. What am I accusing you of saying that you didn't say. I wouldn't ask my god to smite you and I don't believe your god will smite me, so I'm quite happy no longer believing you exist. If a jew who has humanity (I expect more do than don't) wants to set me straight, I'me happy to hear what they have to say. I believe you leave a smear on Judaism. Jews are no better and no worse than anyone else, with a few exceptions such as yourself. I don't blame Palestinians for Hamas and I don't blame jews for you. I've got better things to do than hate on you. Why not let it lie. I made my point, I have no need to go on and on. If there is something you believe I'm missing, have a jew I respect (that would be most) talk to me about it. I believe Israel is an apartheid nation, you believe it should be.
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Dec 12, 2023 21:52:09   #
National Park wrote:
Smith's motions to move the trial forward are part of the "wheels of justice," just at Trump's motions to delay are part of the wheels of justice. It's all part of the "process running its course." The process includes motions from from the prosecution that are beneficial to the prosecution as well as motions from the defense that are beneficial to the defense. Why would Smith want to move the trial forward? There may be many reasons that have nothing to do with the coming election. Perhaps some of his key witnesses have life-threatening illnesses. Witnesses can also suddenly die without warning. Or perhaps key members of his prosecution team have given notice that they will be leaving his office at the end of the year. Or he wants to prosecute the case while the evidence is fresh in his mind. And testimony becomes less accurate with the passage of time--three years have already passed since the crimes alleged against Trump have occurred.
Smith's motions to move the trial forward are part... (show quote)


Trump probably won't be able to pardon himself, but he sure could throw a monkey wrench into the gears of the justice department.
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Dec 12, 2023 21:49:23   #
Effate wrote:
Don’t think he can do that as he is an indicted defendant and would have to waive his right to a speedy trial anytime he requests a continuance. I am sure in his mind (and I use the term loosely) if the trial was held after the election (he assumes he will be elected) worse case scenario he could pardon himself.


He must have already waived his right to a speedy trial. The only way he wouldn't have is if he were confident the state couldn't make it's case in time. The last thing in the world Trump wants is for this to take place in a timely manner.
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Dec 12, 2023 21:46:24   #
Effate wrote:
Don’t think he can do that as he is an indicted defendant and would have to waive his right to a speedy trial anytime he requests a continuance. I am sure in his mind (and I use the term loosely) if the trial was held after the election (he assumes he will be elected) worse case scenario he could pardon himself.


That he could pardon himself is not a given, and I doubt that he could. Under that theory a VP could Cap the president and then as President pardon himself. I believe there is a reason it was Ford and not Nixon who pardoned Nixon. I do not doubt that Trump would put it to the test.
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Dec 12, 2023 21:42:49   #
scooter1 wrote:
https://www.americanewsnation.com/2023/12/12/former-top-biden-sanders-advisor-leaves-democrat-party-for-gop/


I'm guessing that in time we will know the real reason and that it will surprise many.i'm not suggesting that I know, as I have no idea.
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Dec 12, 2023 21:34:41   #
Effate wrote:
Defendants ask for continuances routinely for any number of reasons. I don’t know why anyone would ask for a delay but a continuance has that affect.


Continuances are given for many reasons but "so that the calendar runs out on the prosecution" hardly sounds like a valid one.
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Dec 12, 2023 21:31:31   #
Blurryeyed wrote:
You are so wrong it is pathetic, you are a fool Thom, and a bigot.


I'm neither a fool nor a bigot. It is possible that I am wrong about you, but that is the picture that you paint, so if I'm wrong I do not believe it is my fault.
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Dec 12, 2023 20:42:32   #
lbrande wrote:
You are so far from reality it's sickening.


At this point it is obvious that you were sick long before you ever heard of me. If a jewish guy kills my brother, does that give me the right to wipe out his whole family? Of course it doesn't. But if an Arab kills a Jew the shy is the limit? Where is your humanity? When students are threatened because they are Jewish, I find that an atrocity. When students are threatened because they are palestinian, I find that an atrocity as well. I'm pretty sure you don't.
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Dec 12, 2023 20:34:48   #
If Ben want's to climb my as, he strikes me as a decent person, and I'll listen to what he has to say. He'd obviously biased, but maybe we all are. Now that there is no doubt in my mind that you don't even see Arabs as people, I have no interest in anything you have to say. That you disagree with me, is to be expected. That you see Arabs as animals makes me sick. I'm guessing that I have more Jewish friends than Arab ones, but since, I, unlike yourself, don't keep track of such stuff, I guess I don't really know.
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Dec 12, 2023 20:27:08   #
lbrande wrote:
Genocide, you are really stretching it. I didn't say kill, I did intone relocate. There are over 2.1 million Arabs living within the boundaries of Israel without any issues. Only palestinians and their useful idiots say "From the River to the Sea Palestine shall be Free". Religious freedom has nothing to do with this. In my entire comment I didn't say anything about killing. You are the AH for saying what you had said. You're really "EFFED" up if you got that from let them go to one of the 22 other Arab countries.
Genocide, you are really stretching it. I didn't s... (show quote)


So Israel is for Jews only, and the rest of the world is for Jews and everyone else? How does that work. Maybe you can get your god to smite me. What does there being 22 other arab countries have to do with the people who call Gaza their home. I'me pretty sure that a whole lot of Ethiopians can trace their jewish history back a lot further than you can yours. I have no tolerance for those who wish to kill jews just because they are jews and I have no tolerance for those who look at those of Arab decent and say "they all look alike to me". You seriously lack humanity. Persons such as yourself don't make it easier for decent jews.
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Dec 12, 2023 20:04:46   #
lbrande wrote:
There is only 1 Jewish country on this planet. There are 22 Arab countries on this planet. Let them go to one of those.


Now you're just being an AH, and you obviously don't believe in religious freedom. If there is any bigotry here it isn't me against Jews. It is you against anyone who isn't a jew. Fortunately I'm much to intelligent to blame jews in general for your F anyone who isn't a jew attitude. I'll leave you to get back to your dreams of genocide. Your attitude towards Arabs is no more justifiable than many others attitudes against Jews. Both are very wrong.There anr several bad things I have to say about you and none of them have anything to do with you being Jewish. Should the rest of the world say Jews have their own land, let them go live there? You know they shouldn't, though I might make an exception for you. You obviously hate Arabs, I bet you don't bear Germans any ill will at all. Have a nice life, but not here. This country doesn't need you, and again, it isn't because you are Jewish. By the way, it would seem you are wrong about Israel being the only Jewish country on the planet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Ethiopia

Now I'm expecting a racist rant from you about them not really being jews.
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Dec 12, 2023 18:53:28   #
lbrande wrote:
When calls for violence become "conduct," it is far too late. How can Jewish students in America live like this, in constant concern for their well-being? How can they constantly be on their guard?

Linda Dayan

Student pro-Palestine protest outside New York's Columbia University campus last month

"I've been starting to wonder if we're the frog who doesn't know it's being boiled alive," a friend told me in his Brooklyn home last week. We had grown up together in a Syrian-Jewish bubble in New Jersey – a place where we took our safety, our observance and our expressions of identity for granted. Now, like many other American Jews, he is hearing offhand comments from passersby about posters of hostages, cutting friendships with October 7 deniers and wrestling with the question of whether the country will continue to be safe for Jews.

One aspect of this is playing out at prestigious universities, and whether their presidents will be ousted after disastrous testimonies to Congress last week on Jewish safety at their schools. All eyes have been on Harvard President Claudine Gay. During the hearing, she'd responded to Republican Rep. Elise Stefanik's charged, aggressive line of questioning with the exhausted but firm tone of a mother whose toddler had requested their fifth post-bedtime cup of water.

Gay repeatedly acknowledged that chants at anti-Israel protests calling for a globalized intifada – which for Jews conjure images of bombed-out buses and which Stefanik defined as a call for Jewish genocide – are abhorrent to her. But such speech, she said, will not be disciplined until it "crosses into conduct." This rightfully terrified the Jewish community. When calls for violence become "conduct," it is far too late; the water has boiled.

Last Friday, Gay apologized for her remarks in an interview with the institution's newspaper, The Harvard Crimson. "Words matter," she said. "What I should have had the presence of mind to do in that moment was return to my guiding truth, which is that calls for violence against our Jewish community – threats to our Jewish students – have no place at Harvard, and will never go unchallenged."

The university's board announced Tuesday that Gay will continue in her post. She will not go the way of University of Pennsylvania President Liz Magill, who resigned Sunday following the tremendous backlash to her comments from the same hearing. But all the academic firings in the world would not be enough to reverse campus tensions or restore the sense of safety for Jewish communities across the country.

Walking through the New York University campus, my friend and I voiced our relief that we were not in the midst of our degrees now, and our surprise that there were no signs or symbols of protest as we passed by Washington Square Park. My uncle, who wears a kippa in his daily life in New York City, told me it was the area he had been most nervous to go through. How can Jewish students in America live like this, in constant concern for their well-being? How can they constantly be on their guard?

I returned to Israel early on Monday, unpacked my bags, took a warm shower and tucked myself in for a midmorning nap. At noon, I was awakened by several converging rocket alarms. I shuffled out of bed, grabbed my keys and headed to the safest corner of my building, in time to hear a rapid succession of explosions in the sky. Such a comfort to be safe at home again.
When calls for violence become "conduct,"... (show quote)


So you are saying that at this point genocide is justified do to prior bad actions. Anything at all to say about the settlers? When you come back from vacation and find I am now living in your home, but in all my magnanimity, I'm going to let you live in one closet, how many years is it going to take you to get over it. Oh, by the way, if you act out I'm going to take the closet back.
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Dec 12, 2023 18:40:41   #
Effate wrote:
Former prosecutor Andy Mc Carthy (disclosure, he is a Fox contributor) just made the legal point (which is true) that as some have argued that it would be in the public’s interest to have these cases resolved before the election but that should not and will not be a consideration for any higher court. What the public’s interest may be can never supersede (trump) the interests of any defendant’s constitutional right to due process.


The court didn't agree with you in Bush v Gore, or whatever the case was called.
I believe Scalia said it was based on "get over it".
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