Israel at War—I share my thoughts
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thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
Rab-Eye wrote:
They are oppressed by their own leaders. Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005.
If Israel is so innocent, why do they target civilians, and kill reporters when they go into the territories?
Israel practices group punishment.
Oct 9, 2023 12:41:48 #
thom w wrote:
If Israel is so innocent, why do they target civilians, and kill reporters when they go into the territories?
Israel practices group punishment.
Israel practices group punishment.
You’ve got it backwards, my friend. If you are interested, I can explain why. If your mind is made up, have a great day and I won’t waste our time.
Oct 9, 2023 12:49:15 #
thom w wrote:
If Israel is so innocent, why do they target civilians, and kill reporters when they go into the territories?
Israel practices group punishment.
Israel practices group punishment.
"The U.S. post-9/11 wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Syria, and Pakistan have taken a tremendous human toll on those countries. As of September 2021, an estimated 432,093 civilians in these countries have died violent deaths as a result of the wars. As of May 2023, an estimated 3.6-3.8 million people have died indirectly in post-9/11 war zones. The total death toll in these war zones could be at least 4.5-4.7 million and counting, though the precise mortality figure remains unknown. Civilian deaths have also resulted from U.S. post-9/11 military operations in Somalia and other countries."
https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/human/civilians#:~:text=432%2C093%20civilians%20have%20died%20violent,post%2D9%2F11%20wars.
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thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
jcboy3 wrote:
"The U.S. post-9/11 wars in Iraq, Afghanistan... (show quote)
I haven't verified your numbers, but they are probably right, and what did we accomplish.
Oct 9, 2023 17:51:54 #
thom w wrote:
If Israel is so innocent, why do they target civilians, and kill reporters when they go into the territories?
Israel practices group punishment.
Israel practices group punishment.
Read all your news on television, don't you? Israelis do not target civilians, they target enemy soldiers. They target suicidal maniacs with dynamite strapped to their torsos running in a market place.. They target others driving bomb-laden vehicles aimed at israeli population centers. Israel is defending itself from the largest assembly of terrorists on the planet. These people declare war on women and children who are in their homes. Turn off your television and go see for yourself. I did and I find your statement to be mindlessly wrong.
Oct 9, 2023 18:00:05 #
thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
davidrb wrote:
Read all your news on television, don't you? Isra... (show quote)
They target schools, they target hospitals, they target news agencies. Something must be wrong with your television, I don't have to read mine. If they identify a suicide bomber they bulldoze the homes of their relatives. I've seen live feeds from the territories, and seen the news crews taking fire from the Israelis. Their are probably confrontations where we should support Israel, but we should not automatcly support them. Without us they might be more interested in peace.
Oct 9, 2023 19:52:28 #
Oct 9, 2023 19:53:58 #
thom w wrote:
They target schools, they target hospitals, they target news agencies. Something must be wrong with your television, I don't have to read mine. If they identify a suicide bomber they bulldoze the homes of their relatives. I've seen live feeds from the territories, and seen the news crews taking fire from the Israelis. Their are probably confrontations where we should support Israel, but we should not automatcly support them. Without us they might be more interested in peace.
They target locations from which they are being fired upon. They target locations where the terrorists store their munitions. And yes, many times the terrorists do fire from hospitals and schools, or store their munitions there. What is Israel supposed to do? Just sit there and get shelled?
Oct 9, 2023 20:34:38 #
thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
Rab-Eye wrote:
They target locations from which they are being fired upon. They target locations where the terrorists store their munitions. And yes, many times the terrorists do fire from hospitals and schools, or store their munitions there. What is Israel supposed to do? Just sit there and get shelled?
would you claim to have no bias
I've watched you on here for quite some time and you usually, at least in my experience, give rather neutral opinions. I don't believe that is the case this time. I've watched live TV in prior skirmishes, and what I saw turned my stomach. Some of the Palestinians, I'm sure are very bad actors, but the Israelis I saw were no better, just better armed. Without some policy changes Israel will always have them as enemies. Very determined enemies. Cornered enemies. Having an enemy who feels cornered is always very dangerous. The Israelis haven't adapted yet to a society with so many cameras. It will be there downfall. In this country no matter what terrible thing I do, the government can't just bulldoze the houses of everybody I know.
Netanyahu is Trump with a Yarmulke,
but smarter.
Oct 9, 2023 23:32:07 #
thom w wrote:
would you claim to have no bias
I've watched you on here for quite some time and you usually, at least in my experience, give rather neutral opinions.
I've watched you on here for quite some time and you usually, at least in my experience, give rather neutral opinions.
First, thank you for the compliment. Second, I absolutely acknowledge that I have a strong bias on this issue. I see it as the most moral military in the world against the vile evil of terrorism, but I won’t pretend to be neutral.
Oct 9, 2023 23:38:40 #
thom w wrote:
Right or wrong, this is what oppressed people do.
I didn't follow the link, I never do. False advertising? I thought I was going to read YOUR thoughts here. pity
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