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Apr 2, 2018 18:00:24   #
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
I though there were many specification stated- by me and others. The question pertain to the making of a GREAT portrait photographer. The consensus among many of the responders was GREAT talent, education, mastery of the equipment, lighting and related techniques and people skills. The philosophical attributes are love of the craft, seeking the beauty in all one's subjects, patience and empathy.

In terms of the actual skill sets, a discussion of the nuances of lighting and posing can easily consume endless pages. Certainly books, guides, and short courses are helpful, however, there is nothing that surpasses hands-on training and mentorship by an established master over an extended period, continual practice and study.

It can be difficult to properly replicate "poses" in a book or guide without an understanding of body mechanics, posture, weight distribution, line and form. Lighting diagrams illustrate angles and positions but finite techiches like feathering, lighting dynamics and corrective methods need to be demonstrated and carefully explained.

I do believe TALENT is inborn- we all have talents in many areas to different degrees. Some folks have a natural feel for placement and design- the perceive things in MAINLY a visual way as opposed to an auditory or kinesthetic manner. Some people have great mechanica inclinations and manual dexterity. Many skills can be learned but each of us have a natural proclivity in certain areas where we will do better than others, learn faster and eventually perform at a higher level. Most of these talents need to be assessed by ourselves. This requires honesty and introspection and believe me, it ain't easy and is oftentimes painful. Once one knows their own capabilities, the education and development can begin.

The original question did not mention GREAT financial or business success. So many folks mention the "customer" or the "client". Again, the business aspect of operating a portrait studio or business can consume a book- a tome! There are many talented photographer who have the product and the personality but fail miserably in business.

From an educational point of view, imagine attempting to learn, study, practice and master all of the aforementioned skills and learn business management all at the same time. Think about it; generating a business plan, financing, marketing, sales, merchandising, bookkeeping and accounting, banking, pertinent laws, copyright issues, taxation, employee management...there quite a bit to know about running any enterprise. You needn't be an expert in each and every aspect that I have mentioned or has an MBA after you name but you gotta get a grip on all of this and have a good overview and perspective. Again, some folks have more business acumen and savvy that others but theses talents also need to be developed and exploited. I speak from experience- I thank God that my lovely wife runs our office with an "iron hand" and also looks after much of the sales work! She' a lovely gentle lady but in the office she is a "Divisional Sergeant Major" with a whole lotta hitch marks on here sleeve. I'm just a Sp/5 with a camera!
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Well these are all your opinions of course and if you have all the answers, what is the point of asking the question anyway?

There are so many areas of photography that one can excel and be successful. I learned everything I know by reading books and practicing. Making 6 figures I never needed a mentor. I had the marketing and sales skills to do so. Today marketing is far more important than following portrait mentors that are closing their doors.
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Apr 2, 2018 16:54:16   #
Remember you are at high altitude. Unless you live in Denver it is easy to get winded. Most of the arches require a 2-4 mile hike. As said before take plenty of water and know your limits.
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Apr 2, 2018 10:47:02   #
mikegreenwald wrote:
Now it's my turn to disagree, though only partly.
Talent alone will not get the job done, but excellence can't be achieved without it.
Great equipment helps, but isn't essential. Good equipment is essential, but the bar is relatively low.
Hard work alone won' do it either, if people skills aren't developed.
Talent plus thoughtful hard work over time will create the experience needed for excellence.
And there is always room to learn more, and do a better job.


Nobody is born with photography talent. Talent is developed by learning from others, experimenting with the camera and lighting, breaking the so called rules when necessary, and practice and more practice over time to develop a marketable talent. Anyone can develop the presence to extract the best from your subject, but a good outgoing personality really helps to form a bond with your client.

You may not win a photography contest with "so called" experts using their preconceived rules as guidelines, but if your client likes your work and pays good money for your effort, that is what counts. Remember when every photographer was producing 8 x 10 headshots in portrait mode, Peter Hurley used the horizontal format, placed the head to the far right or left of the space (allowing room to place name and stats) in the void, cut off the top of the head (a real no-no) and got noticed for his style in a digital viewing format. Hurley became the standard for NY casting and the "who's who" of the entertainment world flocked to him at $1500-$2000 a session. Hurley wanted to be noticed and he succeeded while the "experts" scoffed at his work. Make no mistake, talent is developed over time.
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Apr 2, 2018 10:26:36   #
johnh1944 wrote:
I am going late April, is there any recommendations for a person with limited mobility? I can't do hikes over 1/4 mile due to my disability.


Judging from my four trips to Moab, I would say you are out of luck. Most all of the sights require demanding hikes up and down difficult terrain. Even though my wife works out daily at the gym, Delicate Arch and Fishers Towers were very difficult for her. Balanced Rock and Dead Horse Point would be possible.
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Apr 2, 2018 10:16:10   #
ole sarg wrote:
I would have to disagree the great portrait photographers first knew their subject!


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Apr 2, 2018 10:15:30   #
camerapapi wrote:
"what does it take to be a great portrait photographer and take great portraits?"

Lots of practice and learning from others good at it.



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Apr 2, 2018 08:37:52   #
Boobarf wrote:
I’m heading to Arches and Canyonlands in Mid April, camping in Arches, for 5 days. I’ve read some photo shoot itineraries (one I really like from Ash at Dirt In My Shoes) and I’m looking for more folks insight on shooting from others as well. Thanks all for any input that you might have!
Brian


If you are a serious photographer, get a copy of Photographing the Southwest by Laurent Martres. A lifelong southwest photographer, he walks you through every point of interest, many that you will never see unless you like to hike and camp on two day trips or rent a Jeep.

Second, purchase the Lumos app for $4.99. This will give you the Sun's position anywhere in the world from a GPS location or address. If you want to get a shot like the one attached, it is important to set up on THE spot to avoid lens flare. Most people if they get there early will want to set up in the center of the slot. Depending on the time of year, this may be the worst spot possible. Notice that I set up slightly right of the slot sweet spot. Everyone in the center got lens flare. If you are there among the first, you can set the line of camera tripods from the arch.

Third, arrive at Mesa Arch by 5 AM, bring coffee, a folding chair, and wait. At 7:05 a MegaBus of Orientals will decend upon your positions like locusts, and you will thank me for this advice.

Fourth, if you really want to be assured that you come back with keepers, schedule 3 mornings for the Mesa Arch. Weather can snuff out a photo very easily with a cloud bank on the horizon.

Good Luck!




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Apr 2, 2018 08:13:28   #
If the OP did not already have his answers, this might be a good post to help beginners. That being said, none of the responses are specific enough to help anybody. Just using your experience or some so called talent, whatever it is, is not helpful to anyone. Talent is developed with practice. Nobody starts out being able to play a hell of a guitar, or run the 100 yard dash in 9.1 seconds. Takes mentoring from pros, and lots of practice to develop a talent that one can market for good money.

Reading a lot of books as a beginner, probably the most difficult phase of portrait photography is posing. You are the director, be it still or video photography, and much of what you do, including using your personality, can greatly affect the outcome. Assuming you are well versed with your camera's features and lighting to compensate for your subjects flaws or features, you need to learn how to pose your subjects and be comfortable in directing them. If you do not display confidence you may get lucky if your client cannot take a bad picture, but your chances of success are greatly enhanced if you are comfortable and confident from the outset.

I started by buying "500 Poses for Photographing Women" and "500 Poses for Photographing Men" both written by Michelle Perkins published by Amherst Media. I scanned several examples of what I thought would make a good pose and laminated them on a ring. You have to be able to communicate your pose instruction, and one good way is to show your client a visual. From there, I developed more, but being able to quickly communicate to the client what you are looking for is key.

And then there is the marketing end of the venture. Very few people today are willing to pay enough money for portraits to allow you to survive. Past successful portrait photographers are folding left and right. Today they are renting space for just the session, or setting up in their homes or the homes of the client. People will spend $200 for a box of cigars, but very few will shell out $250 for a portrait. Pretty sad.

However, there is a real calling for head shots, which seem to be holding up with business professionals. Peter Hurley's book "The Headshot" is a great read...finished it in a day. Of course he does not tell you in the book that dating a well known casting director in NY contributed much to his success furnishing him with a plethora of famous clients to get him going. Nevertheless, I learned some important points to study a persons face, the fact that rarely do people have eyes that are symmetrical, how to compensate for large noses, etc. Hurley states that 70%-80% of taking a good head shot is the ability to get into a person's head with personality to draw out the clients best qualities and relaxed presence. The "squinch" was an interesting posing tool.

And now one has some guides and advice of what works for others, it is time to practice, practice, practice.
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Mar 30, 2018 17:42:50   #
Peterff wrote:
That simply isn't true for all refurbs, but I was extremely happy with my Canon refurb. Shutter count was high at close to to 3k, battery was defective, but replaced without any discussion.

I'm completely happy with my Canon refurb, and the after market service, but it didn't come presented as new. A few folded pages in the manual weren't a problem, but the camera is just fine.



Good to know. Even though my camera had 20 exposures, 3000 is next to nothing when one considers 300,000 for the unit. I plan to buy a MKIV soon, but this little 80D gives me surprising good video quality. Already have the 1D tank so I am watching values. Right now there is a $600 savings from B&H new—requested Canon place me in the Sale list.
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Mar 30, 2018 14:06:53   #
Canon offers a 1 year new warranty. Like a previous post my camera was new and in the box with new lens, new battery, new strap and manual. Very happy so far.
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Mar 30, 2018 11:47:54   #
mgoldfield wrote:
No Raw file has jpeg embedded in it.

Raw files contain ALL the information captured by the sensor when an exposure is taken. The camera's software creates a JPEG from that data and applies what it "thinks" is the best looking corrections and compresses the result.

The detail removed in the process can never be recovered from the jpeg.

Post processing software can also apply correction and compression to a RAW file to create a jpeg.

All jpegs are created with lossy compression!
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Thank you! Another photographer that knows his stuff. Always save the RAW file for future projects. Ditto for PSD files if you wish to make future adjustments like skin tones for different settings.👍
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Mar 30, 2018 10:43:07   #
Mike Ga wrote:
Just purchased my second refurbished body from Canon. Very happy with the 5d Miv. Canon will run sales on their refurbished products every once in a while. I saved an additional 15 percent on their recent sale.


What are they selling for now?
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Mar 30, 2018 09:29:05   #
autoace wrote:
I’m asking a question about refurbished cameras. What do you guy think about them?
My thoughts is if it going to brake it all ready did and it’s been repaired dy a authorized dealer.
And it should be better than buying a used one.
Your troughts please.


Purchased a refurbished Canon 80D for its light weight (2.3 lbs.) and video features from Canon Direct. I swear the camera was completely new, not a smudge on it, the lens was wrapped in plastic from the factory, the censor had 20 exposures, new battery, new strap...just brand new. I have used it many times over the past 4 months--nice little camera. Purchase price was $749 with lens, 1 year warranty, and 2 day shipping. Very happy with the value saving the $1500 new purchase price.
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Mar 30, 2018 06:52:22   #
Peterff wrote:
Brent, I think you are both incorrect and expressing a highly personalized view of the world.

A JPEG is not required in the process if printing oneself. One does not always save to DNG or PSD. I can if I wish to, but there are many other formats which may be superior in some instances. Regardless of what you believe works for you, your workflow is neither the only one available, nor is it necessarily better than the many others available.

So long as the original detail and the edits are preserved by the software in use, GIMP, PSP, DPP, or others, one can complete the work at high quality, save the work without losing anything, and never need to use JPEG, DNG, or PSD formats.

All formats have their place in the world, but by making the kind of statements like the one above you merely demonstrate the limitations of your own knowledge and experience.
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I simply stated the recommendations of Scott Kelby and company. Using Adobe products, I have no idea what GIMP, DPP formats are, nor do I need them. If you submit photos for publication the required format is usually TIFF or JPEG. Saving files to that format discards all other unused data from a RAW file. Saving finished files with layers in Photoshop allows us pros to return to the image, make adjustments to repurpose the image in other projects. No...you don't have to save a file to press print with your personal printer, but if you want to print your adjustments next week, you better save your file to some format. And yes, I assume people will print files in the future to make money.

I acknowledge there are many formats to use for their intended purposes, but to store maximum data, I use PSD and TIFF.

So with my limited knowledge, I continually make 6 figure annual incomes. With your plethora of knowledge, an Ink Jet print may be your final goal. Life just isn't fair is it? Sometimes the dumbest people fall on success. Maybe it is just good marketing.
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Mar 29, 2018 20:41:00   #
rehess wrote:
So Photoshop works differently than gimp?? With gimp, exporting a JPEG doesn't change data in the software, so you can just continue editing if you want to.

But that wasn't my original question. I don't understand why creating a JPEG is needed to see if you like the image as edited. With my monitor, displaying a JPEG image looks just like what I remember seeing on the monitor before I exported the JPEG file.

BTW - we are on page 6 now.


Well do you want to save the file or not? Just turn your computer off and you lose everything. Does that answer your question? You're going in circles, friend.
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