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Aug 17, 2017 18:51:36   #
mistakres17 wrote:
Hi. Love the website,but I am unhappy with Nikon. What's their game? I just recently got back into photography. Now I am tota
Ly ticked off in what they are doing. I bought a d7200, not because it was their flagship D.C. Camera. But it seemed like a nice piece of equipment. Then came the
d500. Which did not bother me. Then the d7500. Which did not bother me. But now they are making new optics with new electronics that cannot be used with the camera that I bought. It is really frustrating that they did this. It seems to be a real screw job. I will keep what I have but I won't be buying anymore Nikon equipment. They seem to intentionally screw people
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Are you referring to the new Nikon AF-P NIKKOR 70-300mm and its limited compatibility? If so, it is very disappointing, especially since they don't advertise that fact. I was about to buy that lens and discovered it didn't fully work with my D810 or D7200. Instead I bought the new Sigma 100-400mm and am really happy I did. It's a great lens, sharper than the older Nikon 70-300.
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Aug 8, 2017 06:29:39   #
StanRP wrote:
Re: I'm about to spend some time copying my black-and-white negatives to raw digital files.

Just a thought: Some programs do a better conversion from Camera raw files than others. Why not copy them to a TIFF file where no conversion is needed? In your case - try both using a 'black-and-white' negative that has dark areas where doing a pixel-peep will show both noise and conversion.

I mention this because recently I had a night photo of a barbecue that was taken at ISO 10,000
I have a MAC computer so I first looked at the RAW file using the Mac preview.app I then opened it with an editing program and was surprised to see that the noise/conversion was not as good as the Mac Preview. I would normally have used the de-noise program - but instead I opened it again in the Mac Preview and exported it in TIFF and loaded this into the editing program.

Not many people realize that this preview program can export in several formats - TIFF JPG etc. and also as PDF.
For those with a Mac computer - it is a good way to get RAW files into programs - like Adobe CS6, that no longer support the new cameras.
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Thanks! Great tip!
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Aug 7, 2017 20:43:13   #
repleo wrote:
OP here.

A lot of these responses are about what you do (or don't do) with your pics. The real point of my question was do you ENJOY your pictures after you are finished with them. Is the joy of your photography purely in the taking and creation of the image or do you enjoy viewing them afterwards. If not, maybe you should be asking yourself 'why not'?'.

I'm no great photographer (yet), but many of my pictures give me great joy. I have some of my favorites on my work computer as a screen saver slide show. I have some on one of those digital picture frames in the kitchen. I have some on my phone. I make a picture book of any family oriented pictures for Christmas every year. Sometimes before going to bed I'll caste my favorites up onto the TV. I have a small 'gallery' along my corridor wall with some of my favorites. There is rarely a day that I don't 'visit' some collection of pics. In spite of their faults, the pictures lift my spirits and give me a sense of well being. Sometimes the joy is in the memories, but often its a sense of 'damn it - I like that one!'

Unfortunately, as I get better, the standard for what is satisfying raises too. Occasionally, I'll delete a picture that doesn't make the grade any more, but many of them have endured for years.

So do you actively ENJOY your pictures when they are done or do they just go into storage in your well organized hard drive?
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I appreciate your question. I enjoy my photographs immensely. I think it's important to do what you do, find joy in your photos, your creations, that are uniquely you. Think about the fact that every image you create is a unique moment in time, a moment that you immortalized. I get inspiration from my work, inspiration that is otherwise hard to find elsewhere. I don't share them very much but I do enjoy an occasional complement. Mostly I shoot for myself. It is my passion and I love going back and looking at some of the photos I took 30-40 years ago. Yeah there are some that I have to laugh about, having once thought they were great, but mostly I still love them. I do also love the process of creating the images, from the click of the shutter to the final "save as" in Photoshop.
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Aug 7, 2017 20:14:10   #
burkphoto wrote:
I generally don't post online, although I'm about to put some of my work on a couple of pay sites where folks can order products.

Most of my work is for proprietary usage, so can't be posted on the Internet. It's on various corporate Intranets and servers, DVDs, and other storage systems.

I print a few things now and then, mainly to give to friends and family. I have a LOT of prints in boxes and albums.

The worst part about prints, negative film, and slides is that they are physical items. They have to be scanned or copied to be shared on social media, or emailed, or shown on the big screen in the living room.

The second worst thing about color negative film, chromogenic black-and-white film, and (Ektachrome) slides is that they fade. Kodachrome lasts for decades, but a slide is still a physical or atomic image, that has to be scanned or copied to be shared.

I have a tendency to scan through my old photos from time to time, and enjoy them. But I haven't turned on my top of the line Ektagraphic III AT slide projector in over 20 years!

So, I'm about to spend some time copying my black-and-white negatives from my youth, along with my slides (mostly Kodachrome) from the '70s and '80s, to raw digital files. The raw files let me use all the power of Lightroom and Photoshop to turn my best images into better media than the best prints I ever made in a darkroom.

I built a home-brew copier that uses a Lumix GH4 camera with 30mm macro lens, a horizontal sliding rail to enlarge and reduce image size, a negative carrier from my old enlarger, and a slide holder I fashioned from shirt cardboard and popsicle sticks! The negative carrier and slide holder attach to the system with magnets, so I can swap them out quickly and adjust alignment easily. The rails they attach to are the slot covers left over from putting SCSI and USB cards into old Macs...

The backlight is a 5500K photo grade fluorescent lamp, diffused by three sheets of translucent art paper. I made the light fixture out of a 100' 35mm film can left over from the 1970s, and a ceramic sign socket. The frame is made of particle board left over from a ping-pong table shipping carton.

The only thing I bought was $5.38 worth of translucent art paper. I had all the other stuff just sitting around in my shed or garage.

Here's a sample of what it can do. This is from a 35mm HP5+ negative made in May, 1986. Exposed in raw, inverted and processed in ACR and other Photoshop tools.
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Aye god, Bill! It's simply fantastic! I have hundreds and hundreds of negs and transparencies from the seventies and eighties and have only managed to scan a few dozen. Nowadays they sit in a storage trailer fading away. You're my hero!
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Aug 7, 2017 20:01:23   #
The best!
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Aug 7, 2017 19:08:26   #
terry44 wrote:
Good God Gene now you have my mind racing to find a way to trade up from my D800, but as I've learned gas does subside.



Yeah, these forums are dangerous because of the GAS. Gotta take some GAS-X when you come here or wind up spending a fortune.
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Aug 7, 2017 19:00:41   #
Gene51 wrote:
A better balanced shutter and dampening mechanism to further minimize shutter shock
Electronic first curtain shutter in all modes, not just in Mirror Up mode
Better Group AF - more like the D500 and D5
More AF sensors, more cross type sensors
Faster AF in Live View
Better battery life
Larger buffer
Support for XQD Cards to replace CF
A few more megapixels
A nicer rear screen (like the Canon 5D Mk III and others)
More attention to jpeg rendition - not as good as other cameras in it's class - if you use jpeg.
Better high ISO performance

To mention a few possible improvements. Most of these are really good on this camera, but there is always room for improvement.
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Ha, ha! Is that all? Well, sure, those improvements would be great, seriously, and as you say there is always room for improvement. But will there ever be an end to it? And that's okay. The problem is every time there are these kind of great improvements you have to buy a new camera. For the busy pro who shoots thousands of images a week and wears out a body in 1-2 years it's just an operating expense. For me a camera like the D810 can easily last 6-7 years or more, so I'm not apt to buy a new one every couple years unless the improvements are truly spectacular. I simply can't afford it.

Better if you could send your camera in and for a nominal fee have it upgraded. Yeah, in a perfect world. Pass the hooch please.
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Aug 7, 2017 16:57:13   #
Rancher38 wrote:
I can't imagine more capability than what the the 810 provides me -- anything more in the way of features would probably be wasted.


I agree! What more can we possibly need?
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Aug 7, 2017 11:20:50   #
edazz wrote:
Go to classifieds section. brand new nikon, never used, for sale.



Pardon my ignorance, but where is the classifieds section? Thanks.
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Aug 7, 2017 10:53:22   #
MjTahoe wrote:
Have been a money making pro for nearly 50 years with a slim necessary arsenal... The camera does not make the photographer... the photographer makes the photographer


Truer words were never spoken.
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Aug 7, 2017 10:52:10   #
JohnM wrote:
that is probably right, great photos were being produced when the most digital cameras were 3 and we were excited to see the great new 5 MP cameras were being released. However, the newer, bigger, better has added a lot to what is doable and possible at all skill levels.


Yes, you can take great photos with a 3MP camera, but what you can do with them later is another question altogether. I'll make the argument that the main advantage of the D810 is the 36MP resolution. You can make HUGE prints that you cannot make from a 3MP or 5MP or 8MP file, especially if the original is a jpeg. It really depends on the final usage of the photo. If you're just posting on Farcebook it hardly matters, just use your phone (which nowadays takes great photos at 8MP or more).
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Aug 7, 2017 10:43:16   #
RSQRD wrote:
I am interested in your comment on the new Sigma 100-400 mm lens. How does it compare with the latest Nikon 70-300 mm for sharpness, weight is my interest although I also own a Sigma 150-600 mm lens which is my upper limit using a monopod.


Oh just a further comment. The Sigma 100-400mm is (of course) a lot smaller and lighter than it's bigger brother the 150-600. I would say that it is a bit heavier and bigger than the old Nikon 70-300mm, but I bought it mainly for its smaller size and lighter weight. It's much easier to take on a walkabout and the additional 100mm over the 70-300mm does make a difference. I bought a D7200 with the idea that this lens on a DX body would be ideal (being the equivalent of 600mm at its longest), and it would be except that I find there is still too much noise even at ISO 200. See the 100% crop of a pic I took a couple days ago. This was taken at ISO 200 f/8 @ 1/1600, with the Sigma 100-400 on the D7200. See the second photo a detail of the birdhouse (3rd photo) taken with the Sigma on the D810 for comparison, 100% crop, although not apples to apples it does show the sharpness of the Sigma, the excellent bokeh, and the lack of noise and dynamic range of the D810. ISO 100 f/6.3 @ 1/60, hand-held.






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Aug 7, 2017 10:07:06   #
RSQRD wrote:
I am interested in your comment on the new Sigma 100-400 mm lens. How does it compare with the latest Nikon 70-300 mm for sharpness, weight is my interest although I also own a Sigma 150-600 mm lens which is my upper limit using a monopod.


***BEWARE*** THE NEW NIKON AF-P 70-300 IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH ALL NIKON BODIES.

I'm sorry I have no experience with it. I considered buying it instead of the Sigma, but I discovered that it is not fully compatible with my D810— I discovered this fine print on Nikon's site, and it is really important to be aware of:

The number of cameras compatible with this lens is limited. Even for compatible cameras, a firmware update may be required. Fully compatible models: D7500, D5600, D3400, D500.

Fully compatible models (without limitations) after available firmware update: D5, D750, D610, D600, D5500, D5300, D3300. Download firmware updates at: http://downloadcenter.nikonimglib.com/en/index.html

Regardless of firmware update, these models will still have some limitations*: D4, D4S, D3, D3X, D3S, D810, D810A, D800, D800E, Df, D700, D300, D300S, D7200, D7100, D7000, D5200.

*Because these models reset focus when reverting from standby status (timer off), pre-focus shooting is not available.

Incompatible models: D2 series, D1 series, D200, D100, D90, D80, D70 series, D60, D50, D40 series, D5100, D5000, D3200, D3100, D3000, film SLR cameras.
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Aug 7, 2017 09:10:23   #
This isn't in reply to anyone in particular, just a last comment. I think everyone has different needs, different goals and intentions, different budgets and so on. I can only state what applies to me—the pursuit of perfection, the sharpest photos and the largest prints. A D810. There's no doubt that an 18MP Canon T4i is more than adequate for posting photos on websites or making small 4x6 in. prints or even 16x20 in. prints—and even 8MP will do just fine. As for composition, shooting with a DSLR one doesn't always have time to compose a frame, as when a fast moving hawk is passing overhead. Having the additional resolution and frame size helps when it comes to cropping later. Otherwise, like shooting 4x5 in. film on a tripod, you can take your time and compose a photo. But the other thing, that some have touched on here, is knowing how to use whatever camera one has. The more you know the more flexibility you have, the more tools for creativity. However, just knowing the basics is often enough to make great photos. The problem with digital is the overwhelming complexity of the process.

With 35mm film most cameras served a rather limited function, mainly shutter speed and metering and later automatic exposure and eventually autofocus. But, one camera was pretty much like many others and what really made a difference was not the camera but the lens and the film. Back in the day I owned Nikons for 35mm, an F2AS, FE2 and an FM. Shooting with one or another didn't make any difference when it came to quality, sharpness, grain, etc. It was all in the film and the lens, and of course one's skill in using those on the camera of choice. Nowadays, every camera may have different characteristics depending mostly on the sensor and the combination of body and lens. The same lens on two different bodies can be completely different when it comes to sharpness, light transmission and so on. That wasn't the case with film. I could put any one of my lenses on any one of my Nikon bodies and the result would be the same.

The innumerable user settings of our modern DSLRs are almost a joke. Only Ken Rockwell really knows how to use all of them, and he doesn't. Even he ignores many of the features. If there's anything a really good photographer doesn't need, its most of those features beyond shutter speed, aperture, and ISO setting. And really everything else can be adjusted or changed in post editing.

Some of you may not have been around for the first advent of APS (Advanced Photographic System) format. For film, and it was a complete joke. No one took it seriously. So now we have APS-C and I have to wonder why. Why not just make full-frame cameras? Who really needs a smaller sensor? And why? It doesn't necessarily make the camera that much smaller and lighter. In any case, it's not for me. Like I said, I am in the pursuit of perfection. Period.
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Aug 7, 2017 07:45:58   #
It really depends on what you shoot and how you use the photos, i.e., online, publication print, or large format print. The big advantage of the D810 over other full-frame cameras is the increased resolution and the greater dynamic range afforded by shooting at ISO 64, both big advantages for making large pints. As for noise, the D610 is probably about as good, as is the Canon 6D.
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