Posts: Sjfh | Ugly Hedgehog

wilpharm wrote:

many are stolen..

Then perhaps a better law might be to require gun owners to purchase and use gun safes. Right?

Feb 26, 2018 09:43:20 #

[quote=thom w]

Sjfh wrote:

My question was not if non-criminal gun deaths happen or if owning a firearm causes criminal behavior.

I'm under the impression that you already have the answers you want to hear. Anyone offering a solution would be judged not on the merits of their plan, but on how close they come to your preconceived notions. Not a lot of motive to give a serious answer.

No...I don’t have the answers. If anyone does, I’d like to hear what they have to say....because, as it stands, nobody seems to have the answer. If that really is the case, then enacting new laws would be useless.

A reasonable answer might change my opinion. What I’ve gotten so far shows that there is no answer and serves only to reinforce my original opinion.

Feb 26, 2018 09:37:51 #

paulrph1 wrote:

Some of us caught the sarcasm. Sorry you missed it.

I caught it...what makes you think I didn’t?

Feb 26, 2018 09:36:16 #

thom w wrote:

Are you going to?

I change every day.

The best change the country got was when Obama left office.

Feb 26, 2018 07:42:21 #

dirtpusher wrote:

May not be after mid terms. We can all hope

And change. Don’t forget the change.

Feb 26, 2018 07:38:43 #

Keldon wrote:

Who came in and helped the U.S. when it needed help after 9/11? The Europeans and the rest of the world.

Really, now? Do tell.

Feb 26, 2018 07:35:53 #

ejrmaine wrote:

Maybe all those Liberal experts in the UK should think about banning renting trucks to Muslims.

LoL

Feb 26, 2018 07:35:16 #

rogerl wrote:

In the Daily Telegraph (one of our national dailies) yesterday. Posted without comment!

Better to refrain from comment and let others believe you’re an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Feb 26, 2018 07:33:07 #

gorgehiker wrote:

I've never had an explanation from a gun rights supporter concerning the absence of mass shootings and rarity of gun deaths in nations with strict gun laws. Other nations have criminals and people afflicted with mental health issues. They don't have easy access to guns and they are safe.

Maybe you ought to ask that question.

Is it correct to say that you have no answer to my question?

Feb 26, 2018 07:31:14 #

mjmoore17 wrote:

Why is this question always asked as if pertinent to gun deaths. It is an old silly question that tries to frame gun deaths as violent acts by criminals. Are there a significant number of gun deaths that are not committed by criminals? Why ask if owning a gun transforms you into a criminal? It is a stupid question asked by a small mind.

My question was not if non-criminal gun deaths happen or if owning a firearm causes criminal behavior.

I asked how additional gun laws would prevent use of firearms by criminals. Can you answer that question, or is that beneath you as well?

Feb 25, 2018 19:25:40 #

Twardlow wrote:

Thompson sub machine gun, cal. .45, the gun that m... (show quote)

You’re missing the key part of the equation: desire to own.

Feb 25, 2018 19:23:59 #

When the second amendment was adopted

KWK wrote:

the ar 15 or m 16 is not a real good rifle to fight with a bayonet attached its to short. But will work before using an E tool

Yeah. True. I remember thinking that I hoped I’d never need to resort to the bayonet during that training.

Feb 25, 2018 16:41:20 #

Twardlow wrote:

Have you seen any Tommyguns lately?

Centering the fact that I have no idea what that is I assume it’s safe to say that I haven’t. Does it answer my question?

Feb 25, 2018 16:35:41 #

Wellhiem wrote:

This argument has been gone over time and time again. Should you scrap all rape laws because rapists, by definition, disregard the law?
There are only two arguments against stricter gun laws:
1) I like playing with guns and don't want them taken away from me, and I doubt I'd pass the psychological testing.
2) I want to keep my guns in case of a zombie apocalypse.

Enacting laws tokeep guns out of the hands of Law abiding citizens to prevent gun crime is the equivalent of banning sex to prevent rape

Feb 25, 2018 14:58:59 #

thom w wrote:

Responsible gun owners don't allow their guns to become "black market guns". I'm pretty sure most illegal guns, or "guns in the hands outlaws", once belonged to legal owners. Whether you hand your gun to a criminal or allow them to steal it, the results are the same. I'm not interested in coming after your gun. I do wish to keep "pro gun persons" honest.

Ok. What would your ideal law say?