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Oct 5, 2015 18:24:31   #
bvm wrote:
That is simply refuted by the facts.

your democRAT dominated states across the nation , in every case have at the highest homicide rates.

Go to Baltimore, Chicago, L.A. .

You are stating typical left wing B.S.

Where, other than in your imagination, are you getting your "facts"? I gave the specific source of my statements, which are traceable to the US census and CDC death certificates. Where did yours come from? By the way, you do know that Baltimore, Chicago and LA are cities, not states, don't you?
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Oct 5, 2015 11:08:24   #
NeilL wrote:
Source?


http://www.factcheck.org/2015/10/gun-laws-deaths-and-crimes/
There is a more extended discussion there, but the trend is pretty clear, although statistical correlation does not necessarily imply causation, as they point out in the piece itself.
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Oct 5, 2015 10:57:13   #
bvm wrote:
All B.S.


Compare Baltimore to Morristown

Compare Chicago to Flagstaff

compare Los Angeles to all of Maine

The problem in the US is cities controlled by democRATs and you refuse to see the problem.

Pick any democRAT city and you'll find the problem has been in front of you and BO but you refuse to acknowledge it.

You can't argue with the facts.

OK, let's try some facts: the 10 states with the highest age-adjusted gun-death rate have state governments in which republicans dominate democrats by 3-5 fold in state senators and representatives, while in the 10 states with the lowest age-adjusted gun-death rates democrats dominate the state governments by about 2-fold. Specifically, AR, LA, MI. Al, AK, WY, MO, OK, NM and TN have an average of 3.6 times more republicans than democrats in the state senate, whereas HI, MA, NY, CT, RI, NJ, NH, MN, CA and IA have 0.66 times fewer republicans than democrats in their senate. Don't you hate it when the facts get in the way of of your preconceptions.
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Oct 5, 2015 10:05:48   #
Evolution via changes in cis-regulatory changes (enhancers) hasn't been an important idea for 40 years, so knocking it down is like knocking down the idea that there is a homunculus in every cell - true, but pointless. Here is a link to a more current view: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3826491/. What you are doing is the classic strawman tactic, and it won't work.
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Oct 2, 2015 09:01:32   #
idaholover wrote:
Idaho and Vermont are the most gun friendly states in the union and are the two lowest crime rate states.

I believe that Alaska has the most gun-friendly laws, and yet it rates as the sixth most violent state for crimes.
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Sep 9, 2015 18:24:30   #
Robert Graybeal wrote:
You are truly 'dumber than a rock' if you think Gods Law needs to be interpreted.


You are threatening a major financial collapse with this statement. It would lead to the closing of most churches, synagogues and mosques, for, if interpretation were unnecessary most religious leaders would also be unnecessary. Consider the thousands (millions?) of unnecessary pages printed of the Talmud. "Oh, the humanity!"
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Aug 23, 2015 09:48:29   #
Racmanaz wrote:


I think you might revisit his explanation of Darwinism and lamarckism, I don't see anywhere that he is in error. He says "science (Darwinists) shoots down Lamarckism but uses it when it finds it useful", which I find true in this case. Neither Darwinism (natural selection) nor Lamarckism have the ability to created new features or structures in species. Natural selection is not a mechanism for adding new structures, it can only work with structures that are already exist or eliminate those features mostly by extinction.
br br I think you might revisit his explanatio... (show quote)

In the case of the giraffe, no new structure is required, so your explanation fails. Giraffes (and their ancestors) are/were born with a variety of neck lengths. This is just natural variation. Natural selection favored those born with longer necks since they could graze on tree leaves that are/were unavailable to other animals. Thus, those giraffes with naturally occurring necks were favored, and passed that gene variant onto the next generation. The Lamarkian explanation would be that by trying to reach into trees caused the necks to elongate,and this trait was passed onto the next generation. The failure of that idea can be seen in our family dog, Gullliver. Gullie is a Bouvier des Flandres, a breed that has had its tail docked, probably for centuries. Nevertheless, Gullie's tail was surgically shortened when he was a newborn because he was born with a full-length tail, not the Lamarkian-predicted short tail.
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Aug 22, 2015 08:56:06   #
Racmanaz wrote:
This is another brilliantly articulated presentation of the "debate" between Design and Chance (Darwinism). Dr. Walter Veith absolutely dismantles and buries the hypothesis of Darwinian evolution as a viable alternative to the origin of life and the variety of kinds of life on earth. Please enjoy as I did, God bless the ears and eyes of those that watch and listen with interest.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaE3MIRcrGw


Veith is articulate - in that you are right. But...he is not brilliant. The first two assertions is this video are just plain wrong, but he bases his presentation on them. He says that naturalistic science excludes the possibility a God who creates every organism. He is wrong, naturalistic science does not exclude such a possibility, it just says that such a being/event is outside of the realm of testability. The hypothesis of God may be true, but it just isn't testable by science. Second, he gives an example of the perfidy of Darwinists in using a Lamarkian explanation for the evolution of upright locomotion, while at the same time deriding Lamark. Again, Veith is wrong. Upright locomotion conferred a distinct advantage on those individuals who were better at it than others, so natural selection did its thing, and upright locomotion evolved to be a feature of modern man. When you start out a presentation with two wrong assertions, it does not bode well for the remainder of the talk. In other words, I'm calling BS on this video.
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Aug 2, 2015 14:25:12   #
Rac: Life is short, so I only looked at the first page of the list of so-called peer reviewed articles. Most are in "Bio Complexity" which is an in-house organ, not a regularly published scientific journal. "Perspectives of Biology and Medicine" is a journal, but it primarily publishes theoretical pieces, not peer-reviewed research based on data. When I sat on tenure-review committees we would occasionally see junior faculty try to pad their resumes with house organs or theoretical "thought" pieces. We recognized them for what they were, and never granted them tenure. Science is about peer review of data and the conclusions one reaches from those data, not about reaching the conclusion first, then "developing" data to support that conclusion.
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Jul 18, 2015 20:30:23   #
Racmanaz wrote:
I don't think I have implied Whitehead was HIGHLY credentialed in biochemistry, I did say he is "very qualified to do this and understands biology well.. His lack of credibility is your opinion and you are entitled to have that opinion. I understand the necessity of having Peer Review but to bury ones head in the peer review is not wise. I really don't care if someone has peer review publications, I only care if what they produce is true, Truth is not subject to peer review. Do you believe everything that has gone through peer review is true and nothing is false?
I don't think I have implied Whitehead was HIGHLY ... (show quote)

But, what are his "qualifications"? If you are talking about scientific qualifications, the gold standard is scientific productivity, as measured by peer-reviewed publications. That doesn't mean that what gets published is always true, but it does mean that the work has been exposed to skeptics who have not been able to find fault with the proposed publication. Sometimes something does get published that is incorrect, misinterpreted, or just plain fraudulent. That's where the system shines, because others, reading of the work, will try to replicate the reported findings. If the findings are not reproducible, that fact gets published. If a person does not publish in this forum, it becomes the convinced convincing the convinced, known on this thread as "whiteheading". I'm not saying that Dr. Whitehead is necessarily wrong (although that is, obviously what I do believe), but that he has not demonstrated that his ideas can withstand close scrutiny and experimental verification. In other words, take his word for it, why would he lie?
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Jul 18, 2015 17:59:28   #
James Shaw wrote:
There are identical twins, one of which is quite normal, the other so psychotic that it had to be institutionalized for it own and others safety. There are identical twins, one with juvenile rheumatoid arthritis, the other quite normal. Explain those situations. You can't because it is not, at this time understood, as is the scenario with gay twins that you describe. There are not answers for everything, at this time. Be patient, and quit believing you have answers when you do not, cannot.
There are answers, if you understand both developmental biology and genetics. While identical twins begin at conception with identical DNA, even during development they begin to demonstrate subtle differences in genetic expression. It is unlikely, IMHO, that homosexuality is the consequence of a single dominant mutation, but probably reflects a range of genes interacting with environmental factors.
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Jul 18, 2015 17:54:43   #
Racmanaz wrote:
He does not lack credential, you do....he does not have an agenda...maybe you have an agenda because you seem to always oppose anything coming from Christians....you don't care about truth...you only care about what supports your idea.
You said this about Neil
Whitehead, implying that he is highly credentialed in biochemistry. A search of the National Library of Medicine shows that Whitehead has no, that is zero, articles published in respected, peer reviewed journals. He lacks credentials, and credibility too.
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Jul 17, 2015 14:34:42   #
LarJgrip wrote:
Really? Basic science confirms that you cannot get matter from non-matter, you cannot get intelligence from non-intelligence.

You claim to be a thinker James, is it reasonable in your thinking mind to get matter from non-matter or intelligence from non-intelligence.

Would that be a yes or no?


Yes...and emphatically no. Nobody knows what matter comes from, but intelligence from non-intlelligence? My 2 year old grandson had no detectable intelligence 2 years ago, and now is gaining intelligence by leaps and bounds. I point this out because I hate to see poor logic in arguments, especially when they have nothing to do with the argument. Whether intelligence can come from non-intelligence (it can) has nothing to do with intelligent design. It sounds like some simplified argument based on a misrepresentation of the second law of thermodynamics, which is always misquoted and misunderstood by creationists.
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Jul 17, 2015 11:32:09   #
Pepper wrote:
It won’t be long until we hear lawyers arguing in court that pedophiles aren’t immoral they’re simply born with a partiality to children. My guess is that science will support their cause as science has no moral compass by its very definition.


Interesting comment on several fronts. You seem to imply that the lack of a moral compass in science is a bad thing, but my interpretation is just the opposite. Science tries to find the objective truth of an observation, rather than starting with a conclusion (dictated by a "moral compass" ) and rejecting observations that do not support that compass heading. Knowing the truth is always, always, better than acting on false information.

I am not a lawyer, but have spent considerable time in court, and have yet to hear a lawyer argue morality, as opposed to arguing points of the law. So, if the science eventually documents a genetic component to pedophilia, it will be up to the lawmakers to decide what to do about that information. Taking into consideration that pedophilia creates harm to the children (as contrasted with homosexuality), I suspect that there will not be much change from today's laws in this respect.
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Jul 17, 2015 10:33:54   #
This thread is typical of creationist false logic: if "A" is false then "B" must be true. If there is a fault in some facet of evolutionary science, then it must be false, and creationism must be true. This is not so - it just means that science is moving closer to understanding what is true, while creationists remain locked in poorly reasoned mindsets.
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