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Mar 13, 2012 03:09:29   #
Nikon_DonB wrote:
ShelterCove, please don't get upset by the rudeness of some here. Lots of times it is just a bad attempt at whit. God knows I've been guilty of some ill guided whit myself.

All you have to do is throw some back......Just like when we were kids. if some one throws a shot at you,....throw one back.....Sorry to say, it is like a right of passage.
After that, don't take the jerks personally.... You will find out in time who are the cool ones to listen to and who not to. If you have a serious question send some one a PM, I'd be glad to hear from you anytime(can't say I'll have the answer, but I can point you in the right direction).
There are some really smart photographers here, on this site(not that I one of them!) Regards, Don

What are you shooting with? What are your preferences?
ShelterCove, please don't get upset by the rudenes... (show quote)


Hi Don, Have gotten the message just to let it go so will be doing that from now on. Thanks for your offer for assistance. There is just so much to learn. I can see the wealth of knowledge here and I'm always checking out a link or taking notes. At the moment have a Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZS6. It really surprises me sometimes with what comes out of it. Am looking to buy DSLR but need more info before I buy. Preferences I take to mean what do I like to shoot? Landscapes, abstracts, flora - pretty varied. I've posted a couple things. I like to join in when someone starts a topic and invites others to post similar images. There are some incredible pix here. :)
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Mar 12, 2012 23:38:47   #
Rabbit wrote:
MtnMan wrote:
Alas there are a few who seemed to never learn how to particpate in society when in Kindergarten. If I were the moderator of this group I'd eject them. There are only a few but they can disrupt many threads.

They confuse being factual with being socially acceptable. I find it interesting that many of the problem cases can't type or spell. Maybe there is a message in that.

I read somewhere that about 5% of the population are clinically psychopaths. There are over 13,000 registrants in UHH. It's like Congress: there are no qualification tests. So there is an abundant supply of people with real problems. It's hard but I work to ignore them and move on.



ShelterCove wrote:
I'm so disappointed in how many times some people are downright rude in this group. I joined so I could learn more about photography, not to be assaulted by bad behavior. A person asks a question about something they don't know about and before you know some of the responders are having a shoutin' match.

There are so many areas where there is no right or wrong. It's OK. Opinions differ but that doesn't mean you have to be Ugly about it.

There is a big difference between giving constructive criticism and being a nasty critic. Remember that old saying "If you don't have anything nice to say, say nothing at all"? That's where the constructive part comes in. Find a way to provide feedback without being a jerk.

(Flack helmet now on!)

P.S. The utmost respect and admiration to the many who willingly share their knowledge, always have a kind word, and who go above and beyond with details, and links, and fixing images, and answering the same question more than once, and pointing a person to a prior topic, and making people feel welcome.
I'm so disappointed in how many times some people ... (show quote)
Alas there are a few who seemed to never learn how... (show quote)


I take offense to that
quote=MtnMan Alas there are a few who seemed to n... (show quote)


silly wabbit!
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Mar 12, 2012 23:00:20   #
Sdaupanner wrote:
As Taylor Swift sang "Why you got to be so mean" I have also seen a lot of people go above and beyond what was answered in a question asked. In other words I think That SOme is good more is better and to much is just enough is some peoples way of running off at the tips of their fingers. Hang in there and ride with the waves up and down and this will be a learning experience trust me I have learned a lot in just the time I have been on here.


I've already picked up a lot of tips and look forward to many more. :) Love looking at what other folks are creating.
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Mar 12, 2012 22:58:30   #
olderguy wrote:
ShelterCove wrote:
I'm so disappointed in how many times some people are downright rude in this group. I joined so I could learn more about photography, not to be assaulted by bad behavior. A person asks a question about something they don't know about and before you know some of the responders are having a shoutin' match.

There are so many areas where there is no right or wrong. It's OK. Opinions differ but that doesn't mean you have to be Ugly about it.

There is a big difference between giving constructive criticism and being a nasty critic. Remember that old saying "If you don't have anything nice to say, say nothing at all"? That's where the constructive part comes in. Find a way to provide feedback without being a jerk.

(Flack helmet now on!)

P.S. The utmost respect and admiration to the many who willingly share their knowledge, always have a kind word, and who go above and beyond with details, and links, and fixing images, and answering the same question more than once, and pointing a person to a prior topic, and making people feel welcome.
I'm so disappointed in how many times some people ... (show quote)


Hang in there, it is people like you that this site needs.
quote=ShelterCove I'm so disappointed in how many... (show quote)


Not going anywhere. Will take the advice from many to disregard the negative and soak up the positive. :)
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Mar 12, 2012 18:39:26   #
Tea8 wrote:
Uh oh, have we had another shouting match I missed out on while I was at work? Yes we sometimes get rude and ugly around here and at times we get into some pretty big shouting matches that cause members to leave. What can I say but we are humans. We can interpret things differently, especially since everything is typed and we can't see each other. It's no fun stepping into the middle of the arguments so I try to stay out of them if I can see they are coming. That's about all we can do. Most people make up when they get mad at each other, but if not things calm back down eventually and go back to normal. Stick around because we are probably going through one of those upset phases and it will pass and you will find there are a lot of great members around here who have a lot to offer.
Uh oh, have we had another shouting match I missed... (show quote)


Just don't understand the need to get rude and ugly at all. Don't expect everyone to agree, just be civil.
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Mar 12, 2012 18:37:47   #
ebaribeault wrote:
I dont know what to say. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. May I suggest that you post in the photo galery and ask for comments. Think about it we grow from not who agrees with us but those who dont. I do not believe in being rude with anyone. Catch more bees with honey. If I dont like something will tell you


Understood on all points and appreciated.
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Mar 12, 2012 18:36:27   #
MT Shooter wrote:
ShelterCove wrote:
I'm so disappointed in how many times some people are downright rude in this group. I joined so I could learn more about photography, not to be assaulted by bad behavior. A person asks a question about something they don't know about and before you know some of the responders are having a shoutin' match.

There are so many areas where there is no right or wrong. It's OK. Opinions differ but that doesn't mean you have to be Ugly about it.

There is a big difference between giving constructive criticism and being a nasty critic. Remember that old saying "If you don't have anything nice to say, say nothing at all"? That's where the constructive part comes in. Find a way to provide feedback without being a jerk.

(Flack helmet now on!)

P.S. The utmost respect and admiration to the many who willingly share their knowledge, always have a kind word, and who go above and beyond with details, and links, and fixing images, and answering the same question more than once, and pointing a person to a prior topic, and making people feel welcome.
I'm so disappointed in how many times some people ... (show quote)


Some people just cannot help it, its in their blood. But they get known pretty fast on here, and their comments get ignored for the most part.
Hang in there, for the most part its a great group of people looking for help and willing to give it too.
Oh, and welcome.
quote=ShelterCove I'm so disappointed in how many... (show quote)


I understand. And I wanted to be sure to include the positive in my statement as well as my point of contention. I have no fear of criticism - that's how we learn. It's how it is expressed that makes the difference. I am hanging in and expecting to keep learning. Thanks!
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Mar 12, 2012 17:20:16   #
I'm so disappointed in how many times some people are downright rude in this group. I joined so I could learn more about photography, not to be assaulted by bad behavior. A person asks a question about something they don't know about and before you know some of the responders are having a shoutin' match.

There are so many areas where there is no right or wrong. It's OK. Opinions differ but that doesn't mean you have to be Ugly about it.

There is a big difference between giving constructive criticism and being a nasty critic. Remember that old saying "If you don't have anything nice to say, say nothing at all"? That's where the constructive part comes in. Find a way to provide feedback without being a jerk.

(Flack helmet now on!)

P.S. The utmost respect and admiration to the many who willingly share their knowledge, always have a kind word, and who go above and beyond with details, and links, and fixing images, and answering the same question more than once, and pointing a person to a prior topic, and making people feel welcome.
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Mar 9, 2012 13:26:38   #
designpro wrote:
F-Stops...

I'll just dive in with this one!

If f-stops are a little confusing to you, you’re normal. Most photographers have difficulty with this and modern cameras make it more difficult.

This may not be an exciting subject, but is important to your success.

(The concept)
The idea is that if you open the aperture one f-stop, it allows twice as much light through. Likewise, if you close the aperture one f-stop it allows half as much light through. F-stops are designed to work with shutter speeds, which also use the same half or double concept.

(Optional scientific explanation)
In case you’re interested, the f-number system is not arbitrary. The f-number is the focal length divided by the diameter of the pupil (aperture). For example, a 100mm lens with a f-stop of f-4 will have a pupil (aperture) diameter of 25mm. A 135mm lens with a setting of f-4 will
have a pupil diameter of about 33.8. Both of these examples will produce the same luminance on the focal plane.
F-number = focal length / pupil diameter.

(How it works)
There are full stops and fractional stops. Here’s the range of Full Stops you’re likely to see:
1.0 ~ 1.4 ~ 2.0 ~ 2.8 ~ 4.0
5.6 ~ 8.0 ~ 11 ~ 16 ~ 22
32 ~ 45 ~ 64

These full-stops are standard and common to all lenses. Some lenses have a smaller range, but the numbers are always the same. The reason this is important is that they each allow either half or double the amount of light as the next full f-stop. For example, f-8 allows twice as much light as f-11, but only half as much as f-5.6.

The reason this is good to know is that they correspond to shutter speeds which are also half or double the next shutter speed. For example 1/125 second is half as long as 1/500 second, and 1/60 second is twice as long as 1/125 second. When you use studio lights or flashes, everything is divisible by 2 so you can do the math in your head quickly while you’re working. I know, you’re probably thinking “yeah right”.

(Why it’s confusing)
One thing that makes f-stops confusing is that almost all camera manufacturers show fractional stops. In other words, f-4 and one third is shown as f-4.5 instead of f-4 1/3. There’s no indication which are full stops and which are fractional stops. Confusing!

Fractional stops are of little use in learning lighting. You need to know which ones are full stops. Why? Just about everything you need to know about lighting is based on full stops.

Learning your f-stops is by far the least fun part of photography, but it will open the door to a whole new world once you do.

Now, wasn’t that Simple!
F-Stops... br br I'll just dive in with this one!... (show quote)


You could also mention the relationship between f-stops and depth of field. I learned this by memorizing it and later actually understood: The larger the f-stop the smaller the opening of the aperture and pupil, resulting in greater depth of field (area in focus). So if you want to have the most possible of your scene in focus, use a higher f-stop. Shutter speed will need adjustment but I'll wait for your next easy lesson for that info. Thanks!
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Mar 8, 2012 12:05:47   #
avsinc wrote:
Hi ShelterCove, It is a ceiling lighting treatment just flopped upside down.


Never would have guessed. Very cool!
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Mar 8, 2012 11:08:04   #
avsinc wrote:
English_Wolf wrote:
Not quite, I mean using the 90 degree left corner as the left corner of your composition.

This works well too. Just rotate the image a bit to gain a symmetrical view to achieve a perfect optical effect.

Note: I corrected the perspective (lens barrel) and cropped to avoid the lower reference. (And I hate cropping!!! http://static.uglyhedgehog.com/upload/2012/3/7/1331155018221-vil_enrage.gif)


How about this one? Of course by the time I got around to this part of the stairwell the light had moved quite a bit and the bottom floor is now in shadow. That last one you worked on didn't "speak" to me as much so I didn't do as much "fine tuning" on it as the first one. But I appreciate your efforts with it.

I'm sure that there are infinite angles to be had here and just as many ways to
fine tune the results to any particular eye's tastes. If I ever go back there I will undoubtedly make more of this stairwell and maybe go down some other hallways to see what treasures lie in wait there. The hotel, by the way, is the JW Marriott Hill Country Resort in San Antonio TX. It is, as is typical of JWs, very beautiful and offers those who appreciate things like this endless opportunities for discovery (see second pic, "Weird Tables", of a ceiling lighting treatment just flopped upside down).
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Is your second image here wall art from an unusual angle? Whatever it is, I like it! You have a very creative mind! :)
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Mar 7, 2012 11:03:54   #
avsinc wrote:
Thanks ShelterCove, I like your outside stairs very much as well.


:)
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Mar 7, 2012 11:03:14   #
rlaugh wrote:
ShelterCove very nice. Avsinc fantastic! have to keep going back to look at it. RMM not very inspiring , sorry.


Thanks you. It was just one of those things I happened to drive by and noticed and took a couple pix of. You are gonna laugh at this but I thought "avsinc" was some kind of photography term so I was searching UHH and dictionary.com. Couldn't figure it out. Finally realized it was the fantastic stairway image person's handle!!!
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Mar 6, 2012 12:42:08   #
avsinc wrote:
I'm new here and just posted this in the Introduce Yourself board. Sorry if it is a duplicate but it just fits this topic so well.
It is a two exposure composite, one for shadows and one for highs, of a back hall stairwell. The early morning light just made me stop and go WOW!


Wow is right!
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Mar 6, 2012 11:43:05   #
Staircase on exterior wall with shadows

Wall shadows

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