Manners or lack of in this group
Mar 12, 2012 17:20:16 #
ShelterCove
Loc: Nowhere, CA
I'm so disappointed in how many times some people are downright rude in this group. I joined so I could learn more about photography, not to be assaulted by bad behavior. A person asks a question about something they don't know about and before you know some of the responders are having a shoutin' match.
There are so many areas where there is no right or wrong. It's OK. Opinions differ but that doesn't mean you have to be Ugly about it.
There is a big difference between giving constructive criticism and being a nasty critic. Remember that old saying "If you don't have anything nice to say, say nothing at all"? That's where the constructive part comes in. Find a way to provide feedback without being a jerk.
(Flack helmet now on!)
P.S. The utmost respect and admiration to the many who willingly share their knowledge, always have a kind word, and who go above and beyond with details, and links, and fixing images, and answering the same question more than once, and pointing a person to a prior topic, and making people feel welcome.
There are so many areas where there is no right or wrong. It's OK. Opinions differ but that doesn't mean you have to be Ugly about it.
There is a big difference between giving constructive criticism and being a nasty critic. Remember that old saying "If you don't have anything nice to say, say nothing at all"? That's where the constructive part comes in. Find a way to provide feedback without being a jerk.
(Flack helmet now on!)
P.S. The utmost respect and admiration to the many who willingly share their knowledge, always have a kind word, and who go above and beyond with details, and links, and fixing images, and answering the same question more than once, and pointing a person to a prior topic, and making people feel welcome.
Mar 12, 2012 18:15:48 #
ShelterCove wrote:
I'm so disappointed in how many times some people ... (show quote)
Some people just cannot help it, its in their blood. But they get known pretty fast on here, and their comments get ignored for the most part.
Hang in there, for the most part its a great group of people looking for help and willing to give it too.
Oh, and welcome.
Mar 12, 2012 18:20:20 #
I dont know what to say. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. May I suggest that you post in the photo galery and ask for comments. Think about it we grow from not who agrees with us but those who dont. I do not believe in being rude with anyone. Catch more bees with honey. If I dont like something will tell you
Mar 12, 2012 18:23:36 #
vinnya
Loc: connecticut
i must not read alot of the post on here because i dont see that many ugly responses or people being mean
Mar 12, 2012 18:26:45 #
donrent
Loc: Punta Gorda , Fl
"(Flack helmet now on!)"
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So many time newbys come on and start complaining about how critizem is level... Would you please put fort what you are complaining about ??? Ass in a full example !!! I have seen NO bitichness... But I have seen blunt truth... Can't handle that ??? If true critizem is asked for , then prepare to be told... Otherwise, be prepared for truthfullness... Not political correctness......
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So many time newbys come on and start complaining about how critizem is level... Would you please put fort what you are complaining about ??? Ass in a full example !!! I have seen NO bitichness... But I have seen blunt truth... Can't handle that ??? If true critizem is asked for , then prepare to be told... Otherwise, be prepared for truthfullness... Not political correctness......
Mar 12, 2012 18:30:18 #
Uh oh, have we had another shouting match I missed out on while I was at work? Yes we sometimes get rude and ugly around here and at times we get into some pretty big shouting matches that cause members to leave. What can I say but we are humans. We can interpret things differently, especially since everything is typed and we can't see each other. It's no fun stepping into the middle of the arguments so I try to stay out of them if I can see they are coming. That's about all we can do. Most people make up when they get mad at each other, but if not things calm back down eventually and go back to normal. Stick around because we are probably going through one of those upset phases and it will pass and you will find there are a lot of great members around here who have a lot to offer.
Mar 12, 2012 18:36:27 #
ShelterCove
Loc: Nowhere, CA
MT Shooter wrote:
quote=ShelterCove I'm so disappointed in how many... (show quote)
I understand. And I wanted to be sure to include the positive in my statement as well as my point of contention. I have no fear of criticism - that's how we learn. It's how it is expressed that makes the difference. I am hanging in and expecting to keep learning. Thanks!
Mar 12, 2012 18:37:47 #
ShelterCove
Loc: Nowhere, CA
ebaribeault wrote:
I dont know what to say. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. May I suggest that you post in the photo galery and ask for comments. Think about it we grow from not who agrees with us but those who dont. I do not believe in being rude with anyone. Catch more bees with honey. If I dont like something will tell you
Understood on all points and appreciated.
Mar 12, 2012 18:39:26 #
ShelterCove
Loc: Nowhere, CA
Tea8 wrote:
Uh oh, have we had another shouting match I missed... (show quote)
Just don't understand the need to get rude and ugly at all. Don't expect everyone to agree, just be civil.
Mar 12, 2012 18:46:25 #
Geofw
Loc: Thornton Cleveleys UK
Hi ShelterCove, I am new to this hobby and have been reading as many articles as I can, on lots of different websites in an attempt to learn more. When I found "Ugly hedgehog" I was so impressed with the amount of advice and posts on this site that I joined.
I decided to register on the forum to be able to ask questions and get feedback, so far everyone has been very helpful. So don't give up on the site just because of a small rude minority. Look at the good guys on here who have a lot to offer and give their advice freely. Take from the advice what you need and just ignore the ignorant ones, they are not worth worrying about.
I would also echo your thanks to all who share their knowledge so freely, a big thank you to all of you.
I decided to register on the forum to be able to ask questions and get feedback, so far everyone has been very helpful. So don't give up on the site just because of a small rude minority. Look at the good guys on here who have a lot to offer and give their advice freely. Take from the advice what you need and just ignore the ignorant ones, they are not worth worrying about.
I would also echo your thanks to all who share their knowledge so freely, a big thank you to all of you.
ShelterCove wrote:
I'm so disappointed in how many times some people ... (show quote)
Mar 12, 2012 18:49:53 #
ShelterCove wrote:
Just don't understand the need to get rude and ugly at all. Don't expect everyone to agree, just be civil.
Just don't understand the need to get rude and ugly at all. Don't expect everyone to agree, just be civil.
I see what you are saying and I agree that we should be civil. Again though we are human. I try to ignore the negative and go on and add my positive if I have it. That way the OP can decide what to focus on and hopefully avoid arguments.
Mar 12, 2012 19:19:12 #
every forum on every subject includung goodmanners.com has its uncivil behavior. its a reflection of the overall decline of society. then you have to factor in regional cultural differences, a response that would be considered blunt and honest in NYC, will get you invited to a duel in georgia. plus there is a school of thought ( i do not agree with) that the best way to improve newbees is to provoke and anger them. look at mwac, told she would alwys be just a mom with a camera on another site, it challenged her, took the insult as a battle cry and now is one of the best photographers here and the only one i want to shoot my portrait!
Mar 12, 2012 19:30:16 #
Can you post a link to were you think someone was being rude? Every rarely do I see anyone being mean, blunt, yes but rude??
I'm blunt when I offer C&C, I don't sugar coat my feed back. We are all adults here and I'm not handing out pats on the back and job well done unless they are warranted and I expect the same on anything I post here. How else do we learn? That being said I don't think I'm rude, if there is,something I like about your picture you better believe I'll tell you, but if you have given your subject green skin tones I'm pointing that out too.
I'm blunt when I offer C&C, I don't sugar coat my feed back. We are all adults here and I'm not handing out pats on the back and job well done unless they are warranted and I expect the same on anything I post here. How else do we learn? That being said I don't think I'm rude, if there is,something I like about your picture you better believe I'll tell you, but if you have given your subject green skin tones I'm pointing that out too.
Mar 12, 2012 19:34:52 #
Alas there are a few who seemed to never learn how to particpate in society when in Kindergarten. If I were the moderator of this group I'd eject them. There are only a few but they can disrupt many threads.
They confuse being factual with being socially acceptable. I find it interesting that many of the problem cases can't type or spell. Maybe there is a message in that.
I read somewhere that about 5% of the population are clinically psychopaths. There are over 13,000 registrants in UHH. It's like Congress: there are no qualification tests. So there is an abundant supply of people with real problems. It's hard but I work to ignore them and move on.
They confuse being factual with being socially acceptable. I find it interesting that many of the problem cases can't type or spell. Maybe there is a message in that.
I read somewhere that about 5% of the population are clinically psychopaths. There are over 13,000 registrants in UHH. It's like Congress: there are no qualification tests. So there is an abundant supply of people with real problems. It's hard but I work to ignore them and move on.
ShelterCove wrote:
I'm so disappointed in how many times some people ... (show quote)
Mar 12, 2012 19:38:28 #
You aren't one of the problem children. You offer much good input.
But only today I saw you attacked by one in some thread.
But only today I saw you attacked by one in some thread.
MWAC wrote:
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