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Jun 2, 2012 14:18:35   #
Turbo wrote:
The 5D Mk II is a great camera ... it doesn't like, however, focusing in low-light situations.

I would try to do manual focus in such cases.


The 5D Mk II focuses the same as any other DSLR in low light . . . it is the lens that makes the difference. If you lens is not a constant F/stop throughout the zoom (ex. F/3.5 to F/63) it will always have trouble in low light conditions.
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Jun 2, 2012 13:23:30   #
Photoman74 wrote:
Loudbri wrote:
I recently made the leap to "pro for hire".
I did my first nightclub shoot, and at times my d5m2 would not focus. I tried aiming away from the people (who were usually co-operating by posing and standing still), aiming at a wall or a floor. I missed what was probably the best shot of the night because the people got impatient. suggestions anyone ?????

Welcome - turn off auto focus.


. . . or get a faster lens that can "see" in low light situations.
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Jun 2, 2012 13:21:18   #
lost_found wrote:
greatings from North Carolina. have a heck of a thunderstorm right now that had me thinking about light painting. anybody have any favorite light sources that they use? I just bought a couple "fireflys" tire valve stem motion lights I can't wait to try. anyone else played with these? I need to get down to the tire store to pickup a couple old valve stems so I can mount them.
oh, by the way I shoot Nikon new and old and it's not my bear shot I am not fast enough to get one like this.
greatings from North Carolina. have a heck of a t... (show quote)


You don't have to be fast to shoot a picture like that old bear . . . you just have to fast to get away after you took the shot :lol:
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Jun 2, 2012 13:15:29   #
cony25 wrote:
It could also be a little camera shake,,, also the colors are not right...work em on pp
melllyn wrote:
I'm not really sure anyone can help-I think it is probably just a matter of me practicing, but I am having trouble focusing with my new 50mm 1.8 prime lens. The thing that really bothers me is not that I occasionally lose focus, but that I don't SEE it in the lens or on the review screen! One of these days it is going to be a shot I really needed to reshoot (like a wedding shot or something---God forbid!)
Here is a sample of what I am talking about....I was supposed to be focused on the child's face obviously (it may or may not be over-exposed ---apparently I like over-exposed images and never knew it before now! LOL!) instead I ended up focused on the water stream in front of her...in other shots that I stupidly deleted I focused on the trim on the edge of her bathing suit. In the "action" shot I focused somewhere on the child's feet maybe instead of the child's face.
Like I said, my real beef is that I am not seeing in when I review the image. (I'm definitely scheduling an eye exam >)
Some shots are perfectly focused---so I know it isn't the lens...it is definitely the user behind the lens!
Any tips or tricks are greatly appreciated.
By the way--I am shooting with a Canon Rebel T3i (if that matters).
I'm not really sure anyone can help-I think it is ... (show quote)
It could also be a little camera shake,,, also the... (show quote)


It's amazing how the answer to all problems is to fix the symptom in PP instead of curing the cause. What happened to having the image come straight out of the camera correct without the need of a "fix"?

"Camera shake" would not leave part of the image in focus . . .
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Jun 2, 2012 10:55:56   #
charles brown wrote:
Weddingguy

I agree with what you say but still have a gut feeling that the camera was changing the point of fucus sometime between when the shutter release was being pushed and the picture taken like my Nikon was doing. Problem drove me nuts until I finally figured out what was happening. Does his camera have that feature?


Yes . . the camera does have that feature as an auto focus choice, but he says that he is focusing manually. In manual focus the camera has no ability to interfere or in any way influence the focusing.
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Jun 1, 2012 23:40:37   #
mariraju wrote:
you are right. I went too far with that photo. That's why one of my early replies was to get the shutter speed and aperture correct for the shot. Although i like post processing, i would nearly 75% rely on the ways to use the lighting.


Now your talking! One should try to get images with "pop" straight out of the camera with proper lighting and exposure.
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Jun 1, 2012 23:39:06   #
It appears like some of the members here are misunderstanding DOF.
DOF is an area that is in "acceptable" focus . . not perfect focus. Yes an increased DOF, by using, for example F/16 or F/22 might "hide" the fact that the point of focus is not in focus, but with close inspection one would find that it has just become "acceptable" . . not perfect focus. Using only F/16 or F/22 would really limit the conditions under which one could take pictures. I'm sure what the question here was, why is what I am focusing on not in "perfect" focus as it should be.
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Jun 1, 2012 23:07:19   #
mariraju wrote:
Here is the edited version of one of your photos.


This image doesn't look real, as the original you edited it from doesn't look real. Making an image "pop" should not make it unrealistic.. Maybe try a different image to edit. One that starts off rather flat.
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Jun 1, 2012 23:03:27   #
charles brown wrote:
MIKE GALLAGHER wrote:
Shakey wrote:
Maybe this a depth of field issue? Is it possible to set your lens to f8 or f11? This will give you a greater depth of field but the shutter speed will be slower.


I think Shakey's right. I think the problem is right back at Step one - depth of field. That is the area that's in focus. Look up "Depth of Field" and you'll see why so much of the photo's fuzzy, or Out Of Focus. Find out the difference between f1.8, f8 and f16. Try laying a ruler down so one end is further from you than the other is. Photograph that, focussing on the middle of the ruler, using increasingly large f stop numbers and compare the resulting photos. If you don't see fairly drastic results do the same again from a little closer or further away.
In order to ram this home - trying to get the whole picture clear (in focus) using f1.8 from a short distance is like trying to get somewhere fast without changing out of first gear. IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
quote=Shakey Maybe this a depth of field issue? I... (show quote)



What you guys say about depth of field makes sence but doesnt explain why the area he focused on is not in focus. Even with a shallow DOF the area he pointed at should be in focus. Or am I misunderstanding the nature of his problem?
quote=MIKE GALLAGHER quote=Shakey Maybe this a d... (show quote)


No . . you're not misunderstanding . . you are quite right. In this case DOF has nothing to do with the issue.
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Jun 1, 2012 22:59:23   #
AlthaeaTrout wrote:
Now I think the photo is too light!


Are you using a calibrated monitor? LCD monitors have a tendency to have too much contrast and blow images out.
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Jun 1, 2012 17:56:24   #
gym wrote:
MWAC wrote:
Besides what already has been mentioned, they all seem slightly underexposed and your w/b is off (the dress has a blue tint to it).


The 'blue' is the result of my poor skills with pp. :mrgreen: Here's the original with some cropping.


Jim . . . Firstly let me say that the problems here are not from you lack of skills in PP. These problems should be corrected in camera . . not in PP.
The blue is a result of the cloudy day and the fact that you were using auto white balance . . . should have been set at "cloudy".
A bigger problem is that all of the images are underexposed. Under exposure by one F/stop lowers the image quality by 50% and throws off white balance . Here are a few suggestions:

1) Under all circumstances set the camera's white balance to the type of light (cloudy, sun, incandescent, florescent, etc.) Try to get out of the habit of auto white balance unless your shoot is presenting quickly changing light conditions. With auto white balance, even the color of the clothing people are wearing can cause the camera to choose a different setting. At least when you choose a fixed white balance setting like "cloudy", all the images will be the same and make post processing much easier.

2) Expose for the subject . . . not the scene. The underexposure here is caused by the bright sky and the bright white dress, telling the camera it had too much light. Under these circumstances you should be shooting with your camera set to manual. Take a shot up close on the bride's face in TV mode with the shutter set at 1/200th second. Check your histogram to check exposure (don't rely on what you see on the LCD), then set the camera to manual with the same aperture that gave you the best exposure and the same ISO and shutter speed. You are that way basically using the camera as a light meter.

3) Fill flash always helps as it adds sparkle to the subjects eyes and fills shadow areas. Set the flash exposure compensation down just far enough so that you can't tell it has flash (so it doesn't look flashy) Usually about - 2/3rds will do fine. This situation, where the sky is so much brighter than the foreground, makes it impossible for the camera to capture both extremes. No digital camera, or film camera for that matter, has that ability. Without flash, to try and light the subject to the same brightness as the sky, you have to decide if you want the subject properly exposed, or the background/sky properly exposed. The camera cannot do both. Since it's the bride that's paying, I would favor her.

4) Always shoot in RAW so that you have 10 times the chance for correcting white balance, over exposure and under exposure, etc.
I did a little tweaking here. . . white balance, white point, black point :-D


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Jun 1, 2012 16:47:52   #
Gary Truchelut wrote:
Why would you prefer to focus manually when the camera has autofocus which will focus much better than you can see. Set the focus point on the subjects eyes and let the camera do the work for you. Another thought is the diopter on the camera may not be set for your eyes. Put the camera on a tripod and let the camera focus on something stationary. then turn the little diopter wheel on the viewfinder until the subject is tack sharp to your eye. Hope this helps.


Gary has a good point here. Another issue could very well be that the screens that Canon supplies with these DSLRs is not designed for manual focus. On some models they can be changed with optional screens available from Canon . . . not sure about your model, but it's worth looking into if you insist on focusing manually.

There are definitely times when manual focus is necessary to get the desired results, and auto focus is really an acquired skill. Canon has an excellent video on auto focus on their web site that should be read by everyone that has a DSLR. It could eliminate the hundreds of threads on forums for people not understanding the limitations of auto focus.

For those of you responding to this thread suggesting that the problem could be a wide aperture of F/1.8 . . he did not say his exposures were made at F/1.8 . . . he simply was stating that his lens is an F/1.8 model. Save yourself the time by reading the questions asked very carefully before adding your suggestions please.
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Jun 1, 2012 16:07:28   #
Looks like a "pop" to me . . . just tweaked the curves a little. Also changed the composition as I am a nut for subjects being centered.

Nice shot!


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Jun 1, 2012 15:42:41   #
Wonderful capture. Nice to find someone who can "see the light"
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Jun 1, 2012 15:40:57   #
Love your light! Nice shot. My only critique would be that it a bit too symmetrical and would be improved by having the main subject a bit off center. Think the "rule of thirds"

Congrats on a nice capture.
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