TheDman wrote:
Analysis paralysis is what we do around here! Hundreds of threads spent debating demosaicing or the merits of the Scheimpflug principle, zero time learning to create a good image. You wonder if painters are all sitting in a forum somewhere debating whether horse hair, pig hair or nylon is the best fiber for a fan brush.
I'm certainly aware of "analysis paralysis", because it can take you down a rat-hole and you can get lost and not return.
But, if you can return and get back on a progressive path, and when used to explore new tools and techniques it can be a path to continuous improvement.
Yes, I for one spend a lot of time selecting and composing my subjects for the images I want to capture. Just as you do.
But, again, as long as you do not stay stuck in the rat-hole, the benefits in the long run are worth it, if you want to grow. And we should not be dismissive of those who wish to improve their skills.
Here is a gallery of my progression over the past many years: http://www.pbase.com/wjshaheen/astro_images_by_subject
(Not monetized.)
Thanks for looking.
Photo examples: The top image taken with the D750 (as you can tell from its wider FOV) and the 2nd was from a Nikon D5300. (It's more red since I had the IR filter removed.)
Now, it's been asked why would you want to crop? Well, this object, the Rosette Nebula, is relatively large. So, it would be better captured with the D750.
But, most objects I photograph, such as galaxy M51, are much smaller and I end up cropping. So, that's why I went with the D7500 (at least for now).
Of course, Sony has just come out with the A7III for a not unreasonable price.
Thanks for looking.
William in Gold Canyon, AZ
Jim Bob wrote:
I sure do appreciate your patience and time. I think I get it now.
Thank you, Jim. I've been struggling with how to demonstrate this "phenomenon" and your questions have helped me frame it in my thinking.
Attaching screenprints of a tool used to calculate per-pixel field of view (Shown as Image Scale, which equates to resolution) as well as Field of View, in arc-minutes.
I'll look for actual photo examples.
Jim Bob wrote:
Understood. I thank you for further elucidation. Although I must confess that if, as you suggest, the D750 has a "denser" image due to larger pixels, it is not clear how it loses the level of resolution you attribute to it when cropped to DX size.
To clarify, the "denser" image is due to a larger chip (not larger pixels) and hence a larger photo area, which will contain more pixels.
So, when you print or view the D750 image on a monitor the field becomes more crowded with more pixels. But, the per pixel field of view is larger.
Of course, the ideal would be to have the D850. with its 4.34 um pixel size (pitch).
Another way to look at it is if, say, you want a head-shot of a bird, with the same field of view, then when you crop to the head, you will lose resolution.
I can upload an example comparison if that will help.
I have used qDslrDashboard from a laptop, tablet and a phone - and it works great. Where it comes in handy is to show photos on your tablet just after being captured.
Another option if you just want remote triggering and an intervalometer is a Vello Shutterboss II. Very simple and instead of needing a laptop, tablet or phone, you have just a small handheld trigger. There's a newer version III available but I found the II to be very adequate. Both are running a $20 discount at the moment.
Yet another option is a Camranger. But, it may be a bit pricey, depending on what you want to do.
Jim Bob wrote:
So you chose the D7500 because you lost resolution by cropping the D750?
Yes. When cropping to the same region of interest, the D750 image, with its larger pixels, displayed less resolution than the smaller pixels of the D7500.
Jim Bob wrote:
Why would you crop FX to DX size and, according to you, lose resolution in the process?
I'm not saying you would want to. I'm saying to compare the same area as far as resolution. Otherwise, on a monitor or printout, the image with more pixels is somewhat deceiving.
maren wrote:
I am trying to put everything together in my head regarding resolution and pixels. I ran across the term pixel pitch and am trying to understand it, as i have found on-line differing values for better resolution. My D-500 has a pixel pitch of 4.22 microns. One site said that the smaller the value resulted in better resolution which makes sense to me, as pixel pitch is the distance between pixels. But i looked up the specs of the D-850 and it has a pixel pitch of 4.35 microns, which seems to contradict what i was reading. It makes no difference to me as far as my photography goes, i just need to understand it. I thank you in advance for any information in "common language" on the subject.
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Rather than being the distance between pixels, pixel pitch is the *size* of the pixels. Chip size determines the overall field-of-view. But, resolution is determined by pixel size.
Even though the full-frame Nikon D750 has larger pixels (5.96uM) than the DX format D7500 (4.22uM), when displayed on a monitor or printed, the larger number of pixels provie a "denser" image. If you crop the D750 image to the size of a DX, then it will have lower resolution.
I do mostly astrophotography and so my primary concern is for what's called "image scale", the field-of-view per pixel at a given focal length.
I had a D750 for a couple weeks but returned it for the D7500 because the detail was noticeably less with the D750.
William
camerapapi wrote:
Won't it be a perfect world if we could shoot RAW and have our images printed in RAW with a wide color space?
I've been playing with a few photo editing packages, such as Skylum's Luminar 2018 (as just one example).
As part of the process of exporting to a tiff, among other formats, it gives you the option of specifying color space, either sRGB, Adobe RGB or ProPhoto RGB, as well as bit depth. And, of course, it supports direct printing (File/Print).
William
Picture Taker wrote:
Yes but the 28-400 is a better lens. Faster focusing.
I'm not in the market for a lens. I was simply responding to someone inquiring about the Tamron 18-400.
Bill
photodoc16 wrote:
Bill,
Tell me about the 10 - 22. Sharp? (Center and corners), any lens artifacts?, IS?, any comparison to 10 - 24?
Thanks,
Photodoc16
Hi - I was referring to the Tamron 18-400mm.
Bill
pmorin wrote:
I have one of those lenses. It has nice, sharp optics till you get to about 350 on the zoom. Then it gets a little soft. I get a lot of visible shake at max zoom when hand held, but on a tripod it is awesome. As to carrying it around all day, no problem, the weight is easily managed. For the price, the Tamron is well worth having in your bag.
I agree completely. I was going to use it for last summer's eclipse but when I scrutinized the images, it was a tad soft at above 350mm.
But, up to that point, it was very good.
Bill
Fotomacher wrote:
I glad to see that you’re still using the venerable D70s. It was my first Nikon digital body. One of the advantages of this series was the built in focus motor so I could use excellent and cost effective Nikkor AF lenses. These lenses do not have electronic focus motors and rely on the motor drive in the body. The D3xxx and D5xxx as well as the D7500 do not have focus motors in the body. They also lack the aperture feeler so that even older Nikkor manual focus lenses will not couple with the light meter. For interest, I am still using a Nikon 50mm f/1.8 Series E lens with my D810 and it allows me to shoot in aperture priority, manual and the body detects focus and shows the green confirmation “dot”. Nikon excels at backwards compatibility.
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According to Ken Rockwell: "There is a focus motor in the D7500, so it works with every AF lens made since 1986.".
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d7500.htm
I love mine.
LWW wrote:
Next time you are about to get ran over I’ll remember to not warn you.
I guess we're not allowed to suggest alternatives.
Photographer Jim wrote:
Sponsorship deal?
He just wanted to try something different?
He got tired of being corrected for spelling Canon with two n's?
Did you mean to say 3 N's? (It's been annoying me too for some time. "Cannon" And I was in the artillery!)