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Aug 20, 2014 19:45:38   #
MtnMan wrote:
Infrared?

Front and rear?


Don't know about IR or RF, but i just set it up and tested it, lest I end up with my foot in my mouth. Bad way to make new friends.

The ML-L3 works front and rear on my D600, same one that works or worked with my D90, D7000, and D7100
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Aug 20, 2014 11:01:04   #
MtnMan wrote:
Shutter remote.

Usually when people speak of "wireless" they mean ones that use RF. Those require screwing into the same shutter release port I am addressing.

The infrared remotes are built into cameras like the D3200 and D5xxx. They are always there and ready to go, and these Nikon cameras have the ports both front and back. So you just pick up the remote, set the release mode to remote, and fire when needed. No need to hook up a cable or lug around a thing connected to your camera. I used to keep the little release in its supplied holder on my camera strap. Also no searching around for where you last put the cable or wireless.

The probably cost Nikon about 50 cents to include. I can't imagine why they leave it off the D8xx. I don't know if they leave it off the D6xx. My D7000 also had it.
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D600 uses the wireless...
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Aug 20, 2014 10:56:09   #
MtnMan wrote:
Hope they do fully articulated screen like the D5xxx instead of just tilting. It is more useful for things like selfies and using on a telescope. The tilting screen is a help for low and high angle shots. I have one of those on my Sony NEX-7 and don't use it nearly as much as I used the articulating one on my D5100.

IF they include infrared trigger I'll have a GAS attack. The thing I hate most about my D800 is that it has no infrared trigger and the screw-in external trigger is the worst design I have seen in a long time. You can't get your fingers around the nut to screw a release into it because the lens is in the way. STUPID! Plus, even if you could, it is greatly inconvenient to have to screw something in each time you want to use it vs. just grabbing the remote and firing away.
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TOTALLY agree with that.... I absolutely love the ML-L3 or whatever they called it. Almost gave up on the D800 because of that. I tried the two part wireless remote for it, but it was clumsy and expensive.

Now that I have an 810, however, I am so in love with the IQ, I'm willing to deal with the stupid cable, which I've owned since my D2X.
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Aug 18, 2014 21:22:11   #
MtnMan wrote:
You won't have a vignetting problem if you buy a "thin" CP. I use a Murami thin. Excellent reasonably priced CP...about $90 for the size of the 16-35...which also happens to fit my 28-300.

But if you shoot a real clear and blue sky at the low zoom end with the sun at 90 degrees you will see a difference in the effect across the sky. For me that is rare and if offensive I can fix in post processing. But I hardly ever need to. The CP is useful in a wide variety of situations not involving blue sky.
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Thanks, i used to use polarizers all the time back in the day. Somehow got out of the habit when I went digital. My widest lens used to be a 24 f/2.8. It was more or less permanently affixed to my F3HP, and I don't recall any issues with the polarizer.

But, now I have an 18-35, and haven't bought a 77mm CPL yet, since it's the only lens I use that has that size, at least for now.
Hence my question. Thanks again for your reply.
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Aug 18, 2014 15:18:44   #
MtnMan wrote:
Also the 16-35 is threaded for a CP. The 14-24 may not be. I use the CP frequently.


Do you have any issues with the CP when shooting at the wide end--like vignetting, or unequal polarization because of the wide arc of view?

Thanks...
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Aug 18, 2014 10:00:51   #
DaveHam wrote:
That is a very pertinent comment. Too many potential buyers think that DxO labs tests are relative to the real world rather than a lab. Having spoken to buyers of D7100 and D800 who were initially disappointed with their camera but whose buy was heavily influenced by Dx0 it is easy to reach the conclusion Dx) should heavily qualify their recommendations to reflect this. DxO - any lab test - is at best a guideline.

A field test in normal less than perfect conditions is far, far more informative. Even better hire or borrow and test in the conditions and on the subject matter that is relative to you.
It's all very well to quote DxO et al as the standard but in truth these labs are merely a test of the equipment in carefully controlled conditions. At best a guideline - unless you work in a lab environment.
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Also true, but would anyone contest the notion that stepping up from a D80 to a D7100 would cost the OP less than the lens upgrade and provide far greater benefit?
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Aug 18, 2014 09:54:12   #
amehta wrote:
I'd like to step back for a second and ask about your decision to replace a 18-<something> lens with a 24-70mm lens. Have you decided you rarely use the 18-24mm focal length range?

I would also ask why you are spending $1000-1900 on a lens for an 8 year old camera? On of the memes from the film days was, "spend money on the glass, not the camera", and I believe it has falsely carried over to digital. With 35mm photography, the image quality depended more on the film than the camera, so it was the lens and the film which mattered most. The digital camera contains all the film you will ever be able to use inside it, so the lens and camera are at least comparably important.

To demonstrate what I am talking about, look at the DxOMark lens ratings for four combinations:
1. D200, Nikon 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR(I): 7
2. D200, Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8: 12
3. Nikon D7100, Nikon 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR(I): 15
4. Nikon D7100, Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8: 20

Spending $1100 on the Nikon D7100 would improve your image quality more than spending $1900 on the Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8. And it would improve with all your lenses.

If you find you use the 18-30mm range of your "kit lens" more than the 30-70mm range, a lens to consider is the Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 DC HSM, $800. With the D7100 its DxOMark score is 28. Only a few of the best primes available will do better. You can get this lens and the Nikon D7100 for the same price as the Nikon 24-70mm lens!
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Aug 17, 2014 12:39:01   #
Ol' Frank wrote:
I use a Sigma 18-250 and add a Kenco 1.4 telextender as needed. Works well for me and I only have to carry one lens. I would very much, like to know how the addition of a D610 or D810 is helping in your recovery. I am facing a colonoscopy tomorrow and I am trying to convince the wife that a new D7100 will make me feel so much better.


Just don't let her borrow it to make Christmas cards out of post-op photos.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Aug 17, 2014 10:41:55   #
I like my 80-400 VR, new version, a lot. Pretty darn sharp, and often hand holdable.

Not cheap, but it is what it is....
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Aug 13, 2014 10:09:36   #
Gobuster wrote:
IMHO the 24-85 mm VR 3.5/4.5 G is great value, I love mine.


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Aug 12, 2014 10:02:54   #
If you're looking for a "normal" lens, the 50 is only that on a full frame camera. for a crop sensor like the 5xxx or 7xxx series, the "normal" lens is 35 mm.

It has to do with the field of view. So, depending on what you thought you were getting, you might consider the excellent, but inexpensive 35 1.8 G DX, whichever camera you decide on.

I had a D7000 with the 35, and it is a killer lens, will AF on either body.
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Aug 11, 2014 21:16:22   #
Zero_Equals_Infinity wrote:
Thanks to everyone for their responses.

The camera is what I have so that is what I will take. Taking the 50 makes sense as has been pointed out. In the wide angle department it is the 14-24 or the 24mm tilt-shift. As I would like to do some near-far landscape shots, it probably makes the most sense to use. (Also the 14-24 does not support my filters - which is a bit of a PITA, but there you have it.) Next is, what about moderate telephoto? That leaves the 105 or the 135 DC. Could go either way on that.

The tripod was a bit of a no-brainer for me. Two photographers - one tripod makes sense for a multi-day backcountry hike, and he just went and purchased a lovely light Gitzo with a RRS head. It was share or carry in my aluminum Manfrotto which is a little heavy and hence was never really something I was willing to consider.

The 300mm is heavy, and while wildlife will no doubt appear, it is not at the top of my subject list - me being more landscape oriented. With the D800, I can also crop a fair if the wildlife appears - if I don't want to print big. That leave me with the 105 or 135 as my choice for a moderate telephoto, (or if I want to go light I take just the 24 and the 50.)

Thanks again to everyone for contributing. You each bring your own experience and perspective, and I appreciate that.
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If your friend is bringing an RRS ballhead, do make sure you have an RRS plate, preferably an "L" plate for your D800. Otherwise, the tripod will be useless to you.

For lenses on that sort of a trek, I would strongly urge something like the 28-300, or other all in one lens. What everyone else said about keeping it light and simple is so true...
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Aug 10, 2014 12:33:46   #
amehta wrote:
Different people have different ways to decide if a camera does "just fine" at ISO 1250 or any other level.

The point is that, if Peter finds ISO 1250 acceptable on his D600, that is comparable to using the ISO 400-640 range on the D7100.


Also a legitimate point--But, I'll bet the OP would have been a lot happier with his results in a spectacular location he may never see again, if they had a little noise vs a lot of blur.

Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do...
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Aug 10, 2014 11:51:43   #
amehta wrote:
Your D600 does better than the OP's D7100. The purpose of the shot also matters. :-)


7100 does just fine at 1250 and above. I've shot plenty with mine at 3200. The results are certainly better than if they were blurry from too slow a shutter speed.
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Aug 9, 2014 14:47:02   #
Guy sounds jealous to me....

I've gotten good advice, I don't agree with everything he says, I don't begrudge how he makes his living. The article points out where he states plainly what he does and then says he doesn't disclose.

Whatever--YMMV.
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