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Aug 17, 2014 14:08:05   #
Wrbeng65 Loc: Tennessee
 
I am going to purchase the 24-70 mm AF f/2.8 lens to replace the kit lens for my nikon D80. The nikon version is rather pricey and doesn't have vibration reduction. Tamron makes a lens with the same specs, but it has vibration reduction. The tamron lens is also several hundred dollars cheaper at B&H. I even saw an add for the tamron lens offering it for less than $1000. I have seen technical comparisons of the two lenses, but I can't put my eyes on any of these reports at present. Would someone be so kind as to give me his or her personal comparison/recommendation? I am prone to buy the tamron, but it will the only non-nikon lens that I own. Thanks in advance.

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Aug 17, 2014 14:23:25   #
CraigFair Loc: Santa Maria, CA.
 
Wrbeng65 wrote:
I am going to purchase the 24-70 mm AF f/2.8 lens to replace the kit lens for my nikon D80. The nikon version is rather pricey and doesn't have vibration reduction. Tamron makes a lens with the same specs, but it has vibration reduction. The tamron lens is also several hundred dollars cheaper at B&H. I even saw an add for the tamron lens offering it for less than $1000. I have seen technical comparisons of the two lenses, but I can't put my eyes on any of these reports at present. Would someone be so kind as to give me his or her personal comparison/recommendation? I am prone to buy the tamron, but it will the only non-nikon lens that I own. Thanks in advance.
I am going to purchase the 24-70 mm AF f/2.8 lens ... (show quote)


Nikon Lens is a FX Full Frame Lens and will have a crop factor of 1.5x = 32-105mm f/3.5 or f/4 not quite sure which f/#
Tamron Lens is a DX C-Fame Lens and will be a true 24-70mm f/2.8
Your camera is a DX C-Frame
Craig

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Aug 17, 2014 14:28:26   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
The IQ on the Nikon 24-70 f/2.8 without VR is great. To me it is a non-issue. I cannot compare because I don't have a Tamron or Sigma lens. The Nikon 24-70 is one of my favorite lenses.

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Aug 17, 2014 14:36:12   #
Moles Loc: South Carolina
 
The Nikon version is my workhorse lens too. I can't think of any time I wished it had VR.
DavidPine wrote:
The IQ on the Nikon 24-70 f/2.8 without VR is great. To me it is a non-issue. I cannot compare because I don't have a Tamron or Sigma lens. The Nikon 24-70 is one of my favorite lenses.

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Aug 17, 2014 14:56:33   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
CraigFair wrote:
Nikon Lens is a FX Full Frame Lens and will have a crop factor of 1.5x = 32-105mm f/3.5 or f/4 not quite sure which f/#
Tamron Lens is a DX C-Fame Lens and will be a true 24-70mm f/2.8
Your camera is a DX C-Frame
Craig


Craig,
You obviously have no clue what you are talking about. The Tamron 24-70mm F2.8 VC lens is a FULL FRAME lens.
Even IF it were a crop sensor lens, the crop factor gets applied at ANY lens mounted on those bodies. Focal length never changes regardless of lens designation, a 24-70 is ALWAYS a 24-70 no matter what body its put on. All that ever changes is the effective field of view that the sensor records. A 24-70mm lens (whether DX or FX) when on a D80 crop sensored body gives an effective equivalent field of view of a 36-105mm lens on a full frame body.

PLEASE refrain from putting forth false information on this forum, we have enough trolls doing that here already.

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Aug 17, 2014 15:00:51   #
insitefoto Loc: California
 
I have a Nikon D610 and use the Tamron 24-70 with vibration control. I have also used the Nikon lens and by far prefer Tamron. The only difference is I am using a full frame camera.

By the way, NIkon also makes a 24-85 with macro which is an older lens, is very sharp and fast focus. its range is F 2.8 to 4. Again, this is for a full frame camera.

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Aug 17, 2014 15:02:15   #
TJer Loc: Colorado
 
I have to agree with the prior responses.

This lens is absolutely superb! It is very sharp and bright with great color rendition even in low light situations. If I could only have one lens, this would be it, it's that good! It's truly a work horse lens. It always is nice to have VR on a lens but on this lens it doesn't seem to need it in my opinion, balances quite nicely with the bodies I use it on.

This is one of those lenses that you buy because you bought a Nikon and you wanted a piece of the best glass Nikon offers. Better still it's a lens that you can upgrade into with a new FX camera, and still be amazed by the images it produces. It should also be a lens that holds it's value very well should you ever need to sell it for any reason (god forbid!).

Hope this helps a bit.

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Aug 17, 2014 15:08:23   #
CraigFair Loc: Santa Maria, CA.
 
jfermo2014 wrote:
I have a Nikon D610 and use the Tamron 24-70 with vibration control. I have also used the Nikon lens and by far prefer Tamron. The only difference is I am using a full frame camera.

By the way, NIkon also makes a 24-85 with macro which is an older lens, is very sharp and fast focus. its range is F 2.8 to 4. Again, this is for a full frame camera.


I too have the D600 Full Frame and the Nikon 24-85mm and love it. It performs just as you say. I too would think the Tamron 24-70 VC would give him the Lens he's looking for.
Craig

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Aug 17, 2014 15:22:18   #
CraigFair Loc: Santa Maria, CA.
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Craig,
You obviously have no clue what you are talking about. The Tamron 24-70mm F2.8 VC lens is a FULL FRAME lens.
Even IF it were a crop sensor lens, the crop factor gets applied at ANY lens mounted on those bodies. Focal length never changes regardless of lens designation, a 24-70 is ALWAYS a 24-70 no matter what body its put on. All that ever changes is the effective field of view that the sensor records. A 24-70mm lens (whether DX or FX) when on a D80 crop sensored body gives an effective equivalent field of view of a 36-105mm lens on a full frame body.
You are absolutely right on Count 1 I was thinking of the 17-50mm Lens thank you.
On count 2 you are confused on what I said
PLEASE refrain from putting forth false information on this forum, we have enough trolls doing that here already.
Craig, br You obviously have no clue what you are ... (show quote)

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Aug 17, 2014 15:25:38   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Quote:
Tamron Lens is a DX C-Fame Lens and will be a true 24-70mm f/2.8


Not much confusion over what you said, its just plain wrong.

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Aug 17, 2014 15:26:26   #
TJer Loc: Colorado
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Craig,
You obviously have no clue what you are talking about. The Tamron 24-70mm F2.8 VC lens is a FULL FRAME lens.
Even IF it were a crop sensor lens, the crop factor gets applied at ANY lens mounted on those bodies. Focal length never changes regardless of lens designation, a 24-70 is ALWAYS a 24-70 no matter what body its put on. All that ever changes is the effective field of view that the sensor records. A 24-70mm lens (whether DX or FX) when on a D80 crop sensored body gives an effective equivalent field of view of a 36-105mm lens on a full frame body.

PLEASE refrain from putting forth false information on this forum, we have enough trolls doing that here already.
Craig, br b You obviously have no clue what you a... (show quote)


Shooter do you think you could've found a better more diplomatic way of addressing Craigs inaccurate post than using the hostile approach you used? He tried to help someone, he was wrong, but he was trying to help. There's no need to verbally attack someone for having an inaccurate post when trying to help. With your knowledge, you could've helped also if you had carefully worded your response to correct the inaccuracies rather than going on the attack for his efforts. If it was intentionally made to mislead the OP then that's a different story. It's because of people like you that people join and stay wallflowers instead of participating and becoming better at photography. No-one wants to be ridiculed ... I think you owe the man an apology.

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Aug 17, 2014 15:31:28   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
TJer wrote:
Shooter do you think you could've found a better more diplomatic way of addressing Craigs inaccurate post than using the hostile approach you used? He tried to help someone, he was wrong, but he was trying to help. There's no need to verbally attack someone for having an inaccurate post when trying to help. With your knowledge, you could've helped also if you had carefully worded your response to correct the inaccuracies rather than going on the attack for his efforts. If it was intentionally made to mislead the OP then that's a different story. It's because of people like you that people join and stay wallflowers instead of participating and becoming better at photography. No-one wants to be ridiculed ... I think you owe the man an apology.
Shooter do you think you could've found a better m... (show quote)


Facts are facts. Erroneous information is erroneous information, period. 50% of new members will read that erroneous information, accept it as true, and then pass it on to others as fact.
I doubt you remember the New York Times front page declaring "DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN". No different that this. Posting false and misleading information never benefits anyone and can harm many down the road. It needs to be addressed directly. If you think OI was harsh then that's your opinion, everyone is entitled to theirs.

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Aug 17, 2014 15:49:00   #
CraigFair Loc: Santa Maria, CA.
 
TJer wrote:
Shooter do you think you could've found a better more diplomatic way of addressing Craigs inaccurate post than using the hostile approach you used? He tried to help someone, he was wrong, but he was trying to help. There's no need to verbally attack someone for having an inaccurate post when trying to help. With your knowledge, you could've helped also if you had carefully worded your response to correct the inaccuracies rather than going on the attack for his efforts. If it was intentionally made to mislead the OP then that's a different story. It's because of people like you that people join and stay wallflowers instead of participating and becoming better at photography. No-one wants to be ridiculed ... I think you owe the man an apology.
Shooter do you think you could've found a better m... (show quote)


Thank you TJer, some people are only here to Berate others for their mistakes. I was wrong and admitted it.
Craig

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Aug 17, 2014 15:52:27   #
TJer Loc: Colorado
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Facts are facts. Erroneous information is erroneous information, period. 50% of new members will read that erroneous information, accept it as true, and then pass it on to others as fact.
I doubt you remember the New York Times front page declaring "DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN". No different that this. Posting false and misleading information never benefits anyone and can harm many down the road. It needs to be addressed directly. If you think OI was harsh then that's your opinion, everyone is entitled to theirs.
Facts are facts. Erroneous information is erroneou... (show quote)


Shooter just because your right and he's wrong doesn't mean you have to beat a man verbally for trying. That's no different than being a bully. I bet you'd never, ever think of treating a man in your shop the way you treated Craig here for sharing misinformation. This forum is about learning and having fun doing it, not having someone beat you up for trying. I'm done with you and your kind of "help".

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Aug 17, 2014 16:15:07   #
Moles Loc: South Carolina
 
I think you should learn to spell the word "I." Passing it on as "OI" is completely wrong, and others on this forum will see this and think the word "I" is spelled "OI." If you think I am being harsh, then that's your opinion.
MT Shooter wrote:
Facts are facts. Erroneous information is erroneous information, period. 50% of new members will read that erroneous information, accept it as true, and then pass it on to others as fact.
I doubt you remember the New York Times front page declaring "DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN". No different that this. Posting false and misleading information never benefits anyone and can harm many down the road. It needs to be addressed directly. If you think OI was harsh then that's your opinion, everyone is entitled to theirs.
Facts are facts. Erroneous information is erroneou... (show quote)

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