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Sep 15, 2012 11:40:22   #
wpromine wrote:
Standing in place at one end of a bridge, there are no experiments you can perform that will guarantee that it will not fall as you cross it. Not irrelevant though.

You are most certainly correct, which is why probabilities have such a big place in science. It is those same probabilities that go into the inspection of structures like bridges and dams to insure the probability of collapse does not approach certainty.

As most of us go through life we are constantly (if, for the most part, unconsciously) assessing probabilities. What is the probability the bridge is going to collapse as I walk across it? It will never be 0, but it will be some number approaching 0 for most of the times most of us cross bridges. Unfortunately, the probability did reach 1 on the recent collapse of the I-35 bridge across the Mississippi in Minnesota.

The uncertainties of life are factored in. No faith is necessary.
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Sep 15, 2012 10:15:38   #
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Sep 15, 2012 10:08:10   #
Gnslngr wrote:
ngc1514 wrote:
Why else would he put the bulk of the world's most easily obtained oil under the sand of a host of nations inimical to our way of life?

Why else would he give his chosen people a small piece of land at the eastern end of the Mediterranean that is the only piece of land not sitting over a sea of oil?


Er.... because he's a figment of people's imagination?


Ya think? Wonder why that never occurred to me. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Sep 15, 2012 09:25:26   #
I think it just goes to show that, if god exists, he has a great sense of humor. Unfortunately, we are all the butt of his jokes.

Why else would he put the bulk of the world's most easily obtained oil under the sand of a host of nations inimical to our way of life?

Why else would he give his chosen people a small piece of land at the eastern end of the Mediterranean that is the only piece of land not sitting over a sea of oil?
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Sep 15, 2012 09:17:53   #
Try SuperAntiSpyware. I run both that and Spybot once a week or so and they seem to keep the number of problems down. 99% of what they find are innocuous tracking cookies. It is the rare occasion when something harmful is located.
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Sep 14, 2012 23:43:38   #
MadMike wrote:
It's so fun to mess with people. Lets keep it light with a little humor.

I don't consider it messing with people. The question is whether the phenomena exists or not. J. Alan Hynek tried to bring serious research tools to the study of something that a lot of people were seeing - or, at least, thought they were seeing.

I am unaware of any useful data from Hynek's work.

A good book from the skeptical side is Robert Schaffer's The UFO Verdict: Examining the Evidence.
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Sep 14, 2012 21:53:55   #
Mac wrote:
I have lived in apartments most of my adult life. Now that I Am retired and living in a house, I have started doing some gardening. I planted a lantana bush and the planting instructions say to water daily until established. How do you know when a plant is established?

The wife has a couple lantana plants growing here in Atlanta and they don't seem to need any special care. She cuts them back to the roots each winter and they pop back in the summer.

They are great for attracting butterflies.
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Sep 14, 2012 21:52:28   #
Jackinthebox wrote:
There has been no evidence at all that WMDs were NOTshipped out of the country before we invaded it. Yet you take our opponents point of view without any evidence. I call that anti American in a time of war. Sadam flew his fighter jets to Iran, his mortal enemy, during the the Kuwait war. What makes you say that he did not ship more WMD's to them, or Libya, before GW arrived? He had plenty of time to do so. But you want proof because you are anti American.

There has been no evidence at all that UFOs loaded with high tech alien weaponry and barrels of pan galactic gargle blasters were NOT shipped out of the country before we invaded it.
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Sep 14, 2012 16:23:06   #
Dogman wrote:
Wabbit wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFRKJ6PZZ3c&feature=fvwrel


I do believe some UO, without the flying, have invaded Chit-Chat. :XD:

Dogman


I dunno, Dogman. I suspect some of them ARE flying.
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Sep 14, 2012 16:21:16   #
It's all going to end in December when the Mayan long coun ends...

But glad you learned something new. It's a wasted day when you don't learn anything. T'is a fascinating universe in which we live!
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Sep 14, 2012 15:05:02   #
I think asking who god is is a bit premature. It would first be nice to show god exists before getting personal by asking him who he is. If you can't show such a being exists, asking who becomes irrelevant.
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Sep 14, 2012 15:02:03   #
bvm wrote:
Who gives a crap? Today is September 14, 2012 period.


Unless you're an astronomer. Astronomers like to use Julian date because the Julian day starts at noon. That way a night's observing run is not split between 2 different dates.
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Sep 14, 2012 13:56:00   #
I thought we already went through this. The missing zero year (the calendar jumps from 1 BCE to 1 CE or, if you prefer, from 1 BC to 1 AD) was an arbitrary point selected by Dionysius Exiguus in the year 525. As the Wiki points out in the article on Anno Domini:
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"However, nowhere in his exposition of his table does Dionysius relate his epoch to any other dating system, whether consulate, Olympiad, year of the world, or regnal year of Augustus; much less does he explain or justify the underlying date."

As I said, picked at random. From the same Wiki:
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Thus Dionysius implied that Jesus' Incarnation occurred 525 years earlier, without stating the specific year during which his birth or conception occurred.


Effectively, Dionysius threw a dart at the Julian calendar and picked the year the dart hit as the starting date for his tables defining the date of Easter.

You seem to place a lot of significance in all this. Why?
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Sep 14, 2012 13:24:39   #
Didn't think this new world order thing was going to go much further than fevered imagination.
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Sep 14, 2012 13:04:41   #
Sorry, but I am under no obligation to support your fantasies. Do it or don't. Das macht mir nichts aus.
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