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Apr 5, 2024 18:42:42   #
Linda From Maine wrote:
OP is looking for a place, not a machine.

Re UHH searches, the engine uses only words in topic titles. Useless. Google Advanced Search is a better option if you want to stay with UHH info ("Advanced" allows you to say which website you want).


If that’s the question, my answer is Bay Photo. Be sure to download the BayRoes ap and ICC profile if want to do soft proofing and save on color correction.
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Apr 5, 2024 18:14:47   #
RKastner wrote:
For the money that you pay for an EV, they're not a very good investment. If you really want one, that's fine. I have no problem with that...as long as you're accepting the risk.

On top of the fire risk that Jerry mentions, the batteries, from what I have read, are only warrantied for 4-5 years and after that you basically might was well get another EV because the cost to replace the battery is insane. I've had gas powered Toyotas for over 30 years of my life. I've had one Toyota Corolla that we had for 19 years and have another that's 14 years old. The others that we've had (Camrys, Siennas and Highlanders) that we've traded in after 6-8 years. I've only traded in one Highlander after 4 years because the dealer needed used inventory and gave me a great price on the old car.
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The Federal mandate is that EV batteries must be warranted for eight years.
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Apr 5, 2024 18:10:52   #
DirtFarmer wrote:
Pure hype.

The maximum lifetime of any style of storage medium these days is probably less than 50 years. After that, the medium could be readable but the technology will have moved on so that you no longer can buy the readers/writers or update the drivers to new operating systems. How long did people use floppy disks? CDs/DVDs? Technology moving on will also mean that you will need larger capacity storage devices. The first home computers had less than a megabyte of storage. Now we're using Terabytes. What will we need in 50 years? (The M-discs are only around 100 Gbytes last I heard). 1000 years? What kind of data storage did they have in 1024? Printing wasn't even invented then.

Part of backup/archiving is Maintenance. That includes transferring your data to newer technology storage systems as they become available (and tested). It also includes verifying your data so it is not corrupted by the transfer.
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I agree the life is limited by the ability to read them. That projected lifetime number comes from extensive DOD testing. It’s no different from calculated MTBF numbers. Last I looked, the MTBF of a typical enterprise spinning drive is in excess of 1 million hours (!)
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Apr 5, 2024 17:53:58   #
catskinner wrote:
The ship was at the dock and it lost power while there two times. They should have been concerned about that before they left the dock. catskinner


I believe that in general, cargo vessels are on shore power while at the dock so that they don’t need to keep diesel engines running. I hadn’t read of those outages (how long?), but if so, wondering if it might have been a shore power failure or a blackout while the shore power was being connected and disconnected and the associated switchover.

Just speculating, but the two things I can think of offhand that would take down power from all the main generators plus the emergency would be bad fuel or failed electrical switchboard(s)/switchgear. Eventually, we’ll hear from the NTSB…
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Apr 5, 2024 17:24:10   #
MJPerini wrote:
If you follow a real backup strategy 2 copies local 1 off site and one cloud you are very well protected.
M-disks are great but the weak link is how long readers will be available, although they are plentiful now , but CD's DVD's & Blue-Ray are already 'legacy media' . If you go that route be sure you buy a few well made readers.
Virtually every type of physical storage has not aged well.
M-Disc, makes a lot of sense to me and the world could use a widely adopted standard like that, but last I checked none of the really big digital content creators use them, because they produce too much data.
That doesn't mean they don't work, they do the question is how long.
If you follow a real backup strategy 2 copies loc... (show quote)

Yes, that’s the problem. History shows that you need to migrate your data to new media every 20 years or so.
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Apr 5, 2024 12:27:54   #
Curmudgeon wrote:
Be sure to cut some of the walnut into rifle stock blanks


Exactly my thought - I think its 2” thickness may be enough.
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Apr 5, 2024 12:11:40   #
Wallen wrote:
I would not even go there.
1. It was not a flat object. It is cubic.
2. Air density changes, hence your calculation is missing a correct data
3. You are not considering the center of pressure of the object.
4. You are not considering the Direction of wind
5. You are not considering the Direction of the ship relative to the wind
6. yadda yadda yadda etc.

I said (in my experience) wind is usually negligible at night and if that was the case, it would not a factor. Yes this is more true if the area is inland and you have even confirmed that it does happen especially inland, which I have shown in the map the place was inland.
I am not contesting the effect of wind but stating a common weather condition that can present in the incident. I did say the water current will play a bigger role compared to the wind. If you misread again, it does not mean the wind is not a factor. Only that it is to a lesser degree compared to the others. It may be a big factor? Possible. Only the investigation will really tell.We are just discussing possibilities. No need push our side of the story.

Thanks for the conversation and I'm sorry we just have to agree to disagree.
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And thank you for your long and careful response. We will agree to disagree. You feel that the vessel was being operated carelessly and that the windage was not a significant factor. As a serious sailor for almost 5 decades with experience offshore and in the area in question, I disagree.

Cheers.
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Apr 5, 2024 12:02:50   #
therwol wrote:
M-Discs are said to have a 1000 year life. They come in DVD and Blu Ray flavors. The largest Blu Ray discs are 100GB.

https://www.amazon.com/Verbatim-98913-M-Disc-100GB-Surface/dp/B011PIJPOC/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3F6CC165QQ0PH&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.O3j2um4BAReq-EfNSszSn7VC26UZesNBkuPFRrjvgCbGOpCdufoD8YYVaTxpMUZtZdvfcrCZnFcHEQNRqdM0Oi76UBvjWldQHXh4SW_UsZfgRNmj1PuQuy2esHI3VbsNBR9ooMN0QGZBTymSCnPCxc8t1PaixrHcZUsdkHxIZ9I.Dw1J_Ga9umzc91rMCNoNgAtMm0qNNpP5C0NNa4r4Ek0&dib_tag=se&keywords=m-disc%2B128gb&qid=1712321780&sprefix=m-disc%2Caps%2C147&sr=8-1&th=1

I believe that most current Blu Ray burners can burn them but not all. My LG external Blu Ray burner can burn them. They can usually be read by a standard external Blu Ray drive. Even so, having only one backup is not a good idea. (House may burn down, etc.)

Many people will buy at least 2 and preferrably 3 external drives and make multiple backups in case of drive failure. One should be kept offsite. Others will keep one copy of their files in the cloud and one or two on external drives. These drives can fail. I have friends who can attest to that. SSD drives may be more reliable than the spinning HDDs, but if one fails, it may be impossible to recover data from them. Not so with HDDs, but recovery can be very expensive. In any case, MULTIPLE backups is a really good idea to avoid that nightmare and expense.

If you buy an external drive, format it exFAT. exFAT drives can be written to and read by Macs and Windows machines.
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A very good, informative answer in all respects. I have an archive of MDisks, and as long as you can purchase them (and a drive to read them) they are the best archive media currently available. Of course, I also have a copy of my data in the cloud (Amazon S3). The chances of an MDisk surviving a fire, even in a “fireproof” container, are not good.

If the OP doesn’t need PC/Mac compatibility, I’d choose NTFS (more robust than ExFAT)

Still waiting for the OP to provide info. On his external interface so I can recommend an appropriate external drive.
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Apr 4, 2024 22:57:26   #
Most of my trips are just a few miles any more, which isn’t great for the car (transmission, starter, battery, exhaust, etc), so an EV or plug in hybrid would work well for me (and I have another ICE car for trips) but after seeing one Lithium fire up close and personal, I’d never charge an EV in my garage.
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Apr 4, 2024 22:47:47   #
wiz302pa wrote:
I need some advice as to what hardware to acquire to provide a viable long-term, external photo file storage solution. To date I have relied on my 1Tb Mac hard drive, but ..... is it time for a change.

I am not a professional and never will be, but I do enjoy this "sport" and hope to stay active with it.

Type/size of external drive?

Any Adobe Lightroom-specific considerations other than the need for a reasonable data transfer to/from speeds?


Mac or PC? What type/speed external ports (USB 2,3…, Thunderbolt, etc)?
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Apr 4, 2024 22:13:00   #
home brewer wrote:
Some day or my grandchildren he will have my tools

Yep, my son will get mine - I feel really good about that. So far, all my grandchildren are girls, so can’t predict about the next generation.

Many of my large power tools are Delta, and some parts are getting hard to find. Had a pulley break on the variable speed drive for my larger lathe, and had a hell of a time finding one (and it wasn’t cheap)
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Apr 4, 2024 17:41:53   #
Linda From Maine wrote:
Some folks pushed Admin too far and were ejected, some moved to The Attic, some - like in several of the UHH sections - moved on, or died. I recently counted more than 10 deaths from active users I've known here since 2013


You don’t imagine maybe the digest change had any effect on all of the sections (that I read at least) slowly diminishing since then do you?
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Apr 4, 2024 17:32:44   #
home brewer wrote:
I learned that there is 3 inches or more of standing water in some places and I will not be mowing for at least a month.
I learned that I have about 86 trees that I want removed that could be lumber ranging from 10" to 23" in diameter. Each tree will yield 1 to 3 eight foot to 10 foot logs. assuming I mill each log to a square it would yield 7,000 or more board feet of oak, sycamore, maple, walnut, yellow poplar, sweet gum and pine. I estimate we could have over 1,000 board feet each of both maple and oak.

I do not have a place to dry or store the wood.

I have over 1,500 board feet of oak and cherry in our garage that is designated for future furniture that I may not ever build. At 74 years old I am running out of stuff to build. My son has raided all the walnut that I had in the garage. I also have couple hundred board feet of oak, walnut and other wood in my basement shop.

Buying a mill seemed like a good idea until I ran the numbers.
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I understand completely. I don’t have as many trees to cut down as you (just 2-1/2 acres in the city), but my garage is full of stickered lumber and all the racks in my shop are as well - Black Walnut, White Oak and Maple mostly. My son had a large stock of white Oak drying for the last 10 years, and after realizing there wasn’t much he wanted to do with it, he sold off 2,700 bd feet. Like you, I’ve got a well outfitted wood shop, but nothing really left to build, so my son uses it - we recently did a father-son project of a good sized Black Walnut Nakashima style table, and I’m guessing the chairs are next (chairs are harder). I too have looked at a portable tree mill, but kinda pricey unless you have a large operation or rent it out.

Cheers
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Apr 4, 2024 12:47:15   #
Wallen wrote:
I can assure you, I know my way around. If your definition of an experienced mariner is Only about being a Master of big ships, then we can only agree to disagree.

Regarding the wind, I'm an Aircraft Mechanic graduate and an Aeronautical Engineering undergraduate. Not only boats, I've repaired, built and designed an aircraft as well.
Rocketry was a hobby, even mixing my own solid fuel, since we do not have estes in our deprived country

You can say I know the wind a little , thus never disregard it, even if I can not accurately predict weather or not it will be there. It won't be called weather if we can.

If you readback, I said " I do not think the wind was not that strong on that night to veer the ship suddenly to the pillar if that is what happened."
The point there is the sudden course change just seconds to impact.

Ships do not necessarily gets blown about by the wind. Sailboats won't tack if that is true. Since the ship is floating on water, its flow has a stronger and more immediate effect on the tracking of a vessel than the breeze. Granted some large ships do not have a Keel to resist side forces, they are still designed more to move forward, than sideways. What we have to consider is the ratio of sail area to mass & the wetted plane. Aside from drag, the wind will have to move away a volume of water, the same weight of the ship against the wetted plane perpendicular to its force. The heavier the ship and deeper the draft, the more it will resist and the less likely will it be pushed.

In retrospect, did say I am missing many factors. After all, I was discussing the event when the news was all new and there were very few details available.
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Wallin, I appreciate your aircraft credentials, but you’ve made so many incorrect statements about boats in the general and the accident in particular, that you haven’t demonstrated knowledge about ships or information about this particular incident or the effect of wind age on large slab sided vessels. You have implied that the boat was operating at an unsafe speed, that the design of the vessel was foolish, that the boat made a sharp turn, that the crew may have been at fault and that wind doesn’t blow boats around. None of these things are correct or jibe with the facts. You said:

“As previously mentioned, 8 knots may be the limit operating speed for that area. If that is the case, then operating on the limit at reduced visibility and decreasing space is indeed "pushing it".

8 knots is not “pushing it” - it’s the proper speed to maintain steerageway when leaving port and transiting to open waters.

“But reports says they lost control, meaning the redundancy was not there, or the redundancy were all broken too, meaning they were operating a very unsafe vessel.”

The vessel was inspected before leaving port

“Makes one think. Who in his right mind would make a multi million dollar boat that can't be steered once the power is out, and make the steering worked only by one engine? That would be gross negligence on the designer, or gross negligence on the operator/owner of the ship, if they allowed it to travel with only one its system working”

As previously mentioned, and from information readily available, in addition to the main engine, large vessels of this size typically have 3 engines for generating electricity and one spare generator

“As for the captain to overrule the pilot who was managing the emergency, well, the pilot was there for a reason. He was the captain at that moment”

No, he was not. The Captain is the master of the vessel and AlWAYS has the final authority and responsibility. The pilot is there to aid in navigation.

“There is the human factor that can not be put aside. Sometimes, the routine makes one complacent, pushing things to their limit because nothing bad happened. He might have done that speed many times, unsafely and the dice roll just caught up with him. Who knows? Maybe he was under pressure to get to the shore as fast as possible or just getting a bad case of "gethometitis" that he disregard some safety buffers”

“One thing I know, A true professional equipment operator always take many things in consideration, topmost of which is safety. There is always a preparation or adjustments to the prevailing condition. A highway may be marked 100mph, but would you drive that fast in icy road conditions? Did the Pilot knew the ship is being operated without any safety backups for its system? If he knew, would he still run it at the allowed speed limit or would he creep that hulk into the harbor so that an anchor drop could stop it on time?”

Nothing was pushed to the limit, the speed was reasonable and appropriate and no one was going home - the vessel was LEAVING port. No safety buffers were disregarded and from the videos, we know visibility was good. The vessel lost electrical power due to an as yet unknown cause, and as a result lost propulsion and steering control. The vessel was being operated safely - safety and not running aground (staying within the marked channel) and avoiding collisions are always of paramount importance when leaving or entering a harbor.

“Not discussing the wind as it happened at dead of the night which normally have still air,”

As you will see from the images below, the wind at the vessel was 6.4 knots at the time.

“ I do not think the wind was not that strong on that night to veer the ship suddenly to the pillar if that is what happened."
The point there is the sudden course change just seconds to impact.”

Vessels this size do not “suddenly veer”. If you look at the images below of the vessel’s course, you won’t see any sudden “veering” what you are seeing are a number of recorded positions, so what appears to you as a sudden change in position is actually a gentle turn or drift. You’ll notice from the course chart that the course only deviated a few degrees after losing power - consistent with the effects od wind age and current.

“Ships do not necessarily gets blown about by the wind. Sailboats won't tack if that is true”

Ships of ALL sizes are influenced by the wind, especially tall, slab sided vessels like the Dali, and I don’t understand your comment about tacking. Wind is often changing and that goes for tacking as well. Modern sailboats are not blown forward by the wind except when running before the wind. On other points of sail, they are “lifted” by the sail, much like a vertical airplane wing, with the lateral force resisted by the keel.

And finally, since you have aeronautical experience, you should be familiar with this formula which calculates the force generated by the wind against a flat object (which the cargo stack on the Dali is):

The force of wind on a flat object can be calculated using the formula F = 0.5 x ρ x A x V2, where F is the force in Newtons, ρ is the density of air in kg/m3, A is the surface area of the object in square meters, and V is the wind speed in meters per second.

P=1.222. A =16,257 V=2.68. F= 26,600 newtons = 5,958 lbs




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Apr 3, 2024 15:57:07   #
jerryc41 wrote:
I've watched both since my childhood. No longer scary, but still good.

There was another one I remember, but I can't recall the title. It's set in London, and they discover something unusual in the Undergorund. It turns out that the earth was once populated by a different race of creatures.

"Village of the Damned" was creepy.

"Best" sci-fi movies - https://www.timeout.com/film/the-100-best-sci-fi-movies

I've seen about fifty-eight of them.


The movie you’re thinking of is “5 Million Years to Earth”. Yep, “Village of the Damned” is classic as is “Children of the Damned”
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