anotherview Loc: California

Note: This PCC start-up problem has fixed itself. This morning I could open PCC with no trial popup.

mborn Loc: Massachusetts

I have the same problem. I am glad Adobe is working on it.

CaptainEd

It asked me to log back in a few days ago, which was odd, but no other ill effects

ChrisKet Loc: Orange, CA

I got the message that I needed to quit and reopen and login to Lightroom Classic yesterday. I assumed it was because I was working with Spark on Chrome, Portfolio on Safari, and also using LR. I quit and reopened LR, logged in, and haven’t had a problem since. I thought it was weird.

JFCoupe Loc: Kent, Washington

I have experienced this issue as well. I ended up closing LR, opening PS and then re-opening LR.

This just started since the 1st of the year, I think.

JFCoupe Loc: Kent, Washington

I have noticed this week that when I go into the Develop module in LR and start edits, I sometime see the image divided up into multiple squares/rectangles when I move a slide in the Basic panel. The effect does work, but the divided image is annoying until it dissolves and a single image again appears on the screen. I have not yet contacted Adobe about this as the times I was at the computer were limited and I didn't have the time to follow up properly.

dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia

"there was a message dated 6 days" ??? Was this an email or system message? You might still want to contact Adobe just to make sure it is not part of a sophisticated scam.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Yeah, the same thing happened to me about a year ago. It went away when I restarted my Mac and tried again.

chrissybabe Loc: New Zealand

And here is a major problem with a subscription system. Once you stop paying, and I assume even photographers will one day let their subscription lapse, suddenly you can no longer access your 40 years of photos.
Every application I have ever had that uses a subscription system or a yearly update system like backup software and anti-virus maintenance has caused me grief with payment and activation.
Acronis, Microsoft, Adobe were typically the most infamous. Anti-virus has settled down (after changing a couple of times). Acronis I steer clear of like the plague although Storagecraft wasn't a lot better. The other two I have no choice but would, and will, drop them also at some stage.
A subscription system ties you in for life just like taxes.

dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia

Don't know many (any) people who use CC as primary storage of files. I would not recommend doing it even if you had a lifetime pre-paid subscription.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

Actually unless they have changed it lately you would still have access to the images you have imported and edited. Just no new importing or editing. And of course your OOC images are still there, unaltered, in your files and accessible through your file system.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Wow. My BS alarm just sounded loud and clear! This misguided assumption still persists, despite hundreds of articles to the contrary. Research the facts. I know all the following from personal experience as a database developer, and as an Adobe user.

First of all, it is ILLEGAL for any software developer to hold users' data hostage. Developers MUST make it easy for you to download all your files in a readily accessible format, when you cease subscribing to their services.

Ergo, when you cease your Adobe CC subscription, you have a reasonable period of time to download any images you have on the Adobe Cloud site.

Second, if you use Lightroom Classic CC, your images are usually stored on your local drives! Discontinuing your subscription will not affect any original or finished images stored locally. In fact, you can still open and export or print images from Lightroom with your changes intact. You just can't make any NEW changes to them.

With Adobe Creative Cloud, you can also suspend your subscription indefinitely, picking it up again when you need it. Some folks use it sporadically, so they just subscribe for a month here and there through the years. Your local data and images remain intact through the suspensions. Everything works normally, once you pay your monthly or annual fee again.

Subscriptions are not for everyone. I get that. But Adobe is NOT evil. They are NOT a money grabber, any more than anyone else who charges for software. They just have a different model that is MUCH more amenable to business customers.

Imagine you run a lab or a printing company. You may have dozens or hundreds of computers running Adobe software! If you had to upgrade by purchasing a license for each computer, you would have an enormous sum to pay, each time you wanted to upgrade. You would also have an enormous training challenge, because MANY changes would accompany each upgrade.

With the subscription model, commercial customers just pay a monthly seat license. It's predictable. It's not a huge lump sum. Accountants are happy — ALWAYS a good thing in a corporate setting. All your computers are automatically kept up to date. IT people are happy — ALWAYS a good thing in a corporate setting.

Users usually have to learn only the incremental tool additions, changes, and upgrades — not a whole new version's worth. Bug fixes and enhancements are available to install immediately as they are released. This is important, because it keeps support costs low and support quality high. It avoids security risks. It avoids user anxiety over not using the latest tools (so they have up-to-date transferrable skills they can take to a new job or company).

Adobe and Microsoft cater primarily to professionals, and professionals as well as consumers have proven with their wallets that they buy MORE software via a subscription model than they would with the seat license model.

It's time for the naysayers to just buy other software if they don't like the subscription model.

Always remember that software is intellectual property. It is the result of tens of thousands of hours of development and the input of tens or hundreds of thousands of people. It is seldom sold outright. It is almost always licensed. In the case of Photoshop, it has been developed for almost 30 years, and available for 28! Lightroom has been in development for 14 years and available for 13. The amount of development effort and expertise required to build this stuff is staggering.

When you buy a download or even a packaged disc and manual, you are not buying software! You are buying a non-exclusive End User License Agreement. It is good for that version of the software only. It may include bug fixes and minor updates, but when you want the NEXT revision upgrade, that comes with a hefty fee. Pay your money and take your choice...

JD750 Loc: SoCal

That could be it!

JD750 Loc: SoCal

That is not entirely correct:
Mar 5, 2018
“Have recently stopped AdobeCC subscrition, to my surprise I still have access to Lightroom, albeit partial. Other programs are cut off but lightroom will still read the database, most library functions are available, BUT no develop functions, print , book etc. Can still export old work with changes and import, keyword , work with collections etc. makes it viable to re subscribe down the track and have an intact image library , nevertheless good on Adobe for keeping that functionality.”
https://www.quora.com/Can-you-continue-to-use-the-software-after-Adobe-Creative-Cloud-subscription-expires

chrissybabe Loc: New Zealand

Well it appears I was a little wrong. Not a lot but a little. Sounds a bit like having a car - you can sit in it and even start the engine and maybe the AC still works BUT you can't drive the damn thing anywhere.