coolhanduke wrote:
burkphoto, where did you get these stats? I owned a photo lab for almost 20 years and would respectfully dispute all of these assumptions.
Silver halide prints have a life span of now of over 100 years with far less of a fade factor. Make an ink jet print and a silver halide print and stick it in the sun.
A silver halide print is made on a "laser" printer which provides a gamut of millions of colors. An ink jet printer is limited because most home printers only have a 4 0r 5 ink set which can't possibly achieve the same results. Yes, some of the new printers have 8 ink sets but still, limitations.
I assume your last comment is in regards to the printers that all Costco's now employ. Yes, these may have some of the traits you tought but they are still till ink cartridges/toner based. Not laser.
If you shop around you will find that all if not most Pro labs are still running silver halide printers because their pro customers demand it.
burkphoto, where did you get these stats? I owned ... (
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Wilhelm Imaging Research is known throughout the industry for its rigorous testing discipline.
My comments refer to high end inkjet printing using archival materials and pigmented inks. There are SOME dye-based printers capable of 100-year print life by Wilhelm's estimates. However, the 100-year rating commonly touted for silver halide papers is based on a much lower exposure standard. By Wilhelm's standards, the same papers last 20-40 years.
I did my own testing from 2005 to 2010. I took an unprotected 8x10 made on Kodak Endura photo paper on a Noritsu 31Pro mini-lab, using Kodak's full RA-4 chemistry, and an 8x10 made on an Epson 9880 using Epson paper and K3 Ultrachrome inks, and taped them to my office window, where they got full sun during the day. I filed duplicates of them in dark storage at 72F, 50% RH. After five years, the Epson print was virtually indistinguishable from its twin inkjet print. The Kodak Endura print showed quite a bit of fading compared to its twin.
Pro customers who cater to the masses like we did (at Delmar and Herff Jones Photography, both school portrait companies absorbed into Lifetouch NSS in 2011) use silver halide processes because they are CHEAP and the process is CHEAP and FAST. Paper in bulk (i.e. the semi-tractor trailer load!) can be had at prices way under $.25 per square foot. We bought meter-wide by mile long master rolls and slit them down to 500' rolls in various widths.
After 2007, we used Epson printers for prints larger than 30" wide, the throat width of our Durst Lambda. When we first installed the inkjet in 2003 (a 9600) it replaced 12 optical printers that we used for low volume large prints — essentially anything larger than 12x18 inches. It made ALL our canvas prints for senior portraits, because stripping the emulsion off of Kodak RC papers is a royal PITA — we had to make three silver halide prints, just to be sure most of the time we could get one good one without tearing it. The Epson was a one and done... stretch it the next day and crate it for shipment. We also used the Epsons to make large, custom composites for fraternities, bands, nursing schools, senior classes, etc., up to 60x40 inches. We made a few 40x60 senior portraits each year. And we made some 32" x 96" panoramas of groups for schools to display in gyms and lobbies.
Where inkjet really shines is in these situations:
You want local control over image quality, and you understand end-to-end ICC color management practices.
You want a print NOW.
You want privacy, for sensitive legal imagery and such.
You want the widest possible color gamut of any printing process.
You want the best archival print available.
You want to make the largest prints possible.
You want to print on museum quality rag papers.
You want to print on canvas board or roll canvas paper.
You want to make "giclee" art prints for collectors.
Large art museums, top ad agencies, top celebrity photographers, and high end service bureaus such as Nash Editions use them for their best work.
https://www.nasheditions.comInkjet is NOT:
A way to save money, whether using a $10,000 printer or a $79 printer.
An advisable process if you use a pigmented ink printer, and print less often than once a week.
An advisable process if you don't understand, implement, and commit to proper ICC color management workflow.
Ad advisable process for very high volume work.