A poll:
What do you consider the best printer for photographers?
Not to be sarcastic ... Costco. For regular printing. For large batches I found it was cheaper to use Costco. Color ink is expensive and Photo ink even more so.
truckster wrote:
Not to be sarcastic ... Costco. For regular printing. For large batches I found it was cheaper to use Costco. Color ink is expensive and Photo ink even more so.
Me too.....
Also not being sarcastic, just more cost effective, and they are printed on photographic paper.
I may print one or two at home in a pinch. Have a Canon MX-920.
Don't need the best printer in the world, have Costco.
I do my own printing because I like to not because of costs. I have 4 printers in two locations. I would like to have a Canon Pro 1000 or an Epson P800. I have two Canon Pro 100's and they are wonderful but they use ink and not archival dye. I have an Epson Pro 3880 also. It's a good printer but I think the Canon's Studio Pro App gives the Canon printers a little edge. The Epson print app is good but I think the Canon app is better. For a beginner I would recommend the Canon Pro 100 because it is less expensive to operate. I might add that I only use OEM ink and paper. Good luck.
Longshadow wrote:
Me too.....
Also not being sarcastic, just more cost effective, and they are printed on photographic paper.
I may print one or two at home in a pinch. Have a Canon MX-920.
Don't need the best printer in the world, have Costco.
Prints on (traditional silver halide, chromogenic) “photographic paper” have about one fifth the estimated life of the best inkjet prints.
Furthermore, the color gamut of the best inkjet printers is far greater than silver halide papers.
The best prints are inkjet prints. But they are not made on small office/home office inkjet printers. And they are not inexpensive.
burkphoto wrote:
Prints on (traditional silver halide, chromogenic) “photographic paper” have about one fifth the estimated life of the best inkjet prints.
Furthermore, the color gamut of the best inkjet printers is far greater than silver halide papers.
The best prints are inkjet prints. But they are not made on small office/home office inkjet printers. And they are not inexpensive.
Interesting.
But I'm not in "business" to sell prints, so my MX-920 is fine for what I do, as well as Costco.
Photographic print longevity is probably better than my 920? And I don't go through a ton of ink.
Interesting tidbit:
https://www.shutterbug.com/content/how-long-will-your-digital-prints-lastbryou-may-be-surprised-page-2
Yeah. Great article! I’m a huge fan of Wilhelm’s Research. It helped me to convince my plant manager to put some Epson pigmented inkjet printers in our labs back in 2003.
The biggest issue with silver halide technology is the processing variable. I know from decades of work in the lab biz that some labs take shortcuts with wash and stabilizer baths. Some integrated printer-processors (i.e.; the 1990s Lucht Metrum) left so much crud in prints that they turned brown in less than five years.
Later, some digital mini labs used optional stabilizer baths. Some labs would leave out stabilizer to save time and money. We didn’t, because we had had several Metrums and lots of complaints about their prints.
burkphoto wrote:
Yeah. Great article! I’m a huge fan of Wilhelm’s Research. It helped me to convince my plant manager to put some Epson pigmented inkjet printers in our labs back in 2003.
The biggest issue with silver halide technology is the processing variable. I know from decades of work in the lab biz that some labs take shortcuts with wash and stabilizer baths. Some integrated printer-processors (i.e.; the 1990s Lucht Metrum) left so much crud in prints that they turned brown in less than five years.
Later, some digital mini labs used optional stabilizer baths. Some labs would leave out stabilizer to save time and money. We didn’t, because we had had several Metrums and lots of complaints about their prints.
Yeah. Great article! I’m a huge fan of Wilhelm’s R... (
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I know what you mean. YEARS ago a certain lab was thought to be "extending" the life of the chemicals.
Your prints were good if you got them up front, but lousier at the tail end.
For me the Canon Pro 100 and 1000 are the printers I use. Had an Epson Pro 3880 but it kept clogging even replaced the print head and it kept on clogging even using OEM Ink
burkphoto wrote:
Prints on (traditional silver halide, chromogenic) “photographic paper” have about one fifth the estimated life of the best inkjet prints.
Furthermore, the color gamut of the best inkjet printers is far greater than silver halide papers.
The best prints are inkjet prints. But they are not made on small office/home office inkjet printers. And they are not inexpensive.
burkphoto, where did you get these stats? I owned a photo lab for almost 20 years and would respectfully dispute all of these assumptions.
Silver halide prints have a life span of now of over 100 years with far less of a fade factor. Make an ink jet print and a silver halide print and stick it in the sun.
A silver halide print is made on a "laser" printer which provides a gamut of millions of colors. An ink jet printer is limited because most home printers only have a 4 0r 5 ink set which can't possibly achieve the same results. Yes, some of the new printers have 8 ink sets but still, limitations.
I assume your last comment is in regards to the printers that all Costco's now employ. Yes, these may have some of the traits you tought but they are still till ink cartridges/toner based. Not laser.
If you shop around you will find that all if not most Pro labs are still running silver halide printers because their pro customers demand it.
Canon Pro100 (dye ink) or Canon Pro1000 (pigment ink).
coolhanduke wrote:
burkphoto, where did you get these stats? I owned a photo lab for almost 20 years and would respectfully dispute all of these assumptions.
Silver halide prints have a life span of now of over 100 years with far less of a fade factor. Make an ink jet print and a silver halide print and stick it in the sun.
A silver halide print is made on a "laser" printer which provides a gamut of millions of colors. An ink jet printer is limited because most home printers only have a 4 0r 5 ink set which can't possibly achieve the same results. Yes, some of the new printers have 8 ink sets but still, limitations.
I assume your last comment is in regards to the printers that all Costco's now employ. Yes, these may have some of the traits you tought but they are still till ink cartridges/toner based. Not laser.
If you shop around you will find that all if not most Pro labs are still running silver halide printers because their pro customers demand it.
burkphoto, where did you get these stats? I owned ... (
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I thought I saw an article that the photographic prints lasted longer, but I cannot locate it.
jethro'spal wrote:
A poll:
What do you consider the best printer for photographers?
I have NEVER Printed my Photos from my Home HP Office-jet Pro 8610 Printer......HP Ink is so expensive.
I have thus far sent my images online to my close-by "Walgreen's" drug store. have always been satisfied with my mostly 4x6, 5x7, and a few 8x10 prints.
alby
Loc: very eastern pa.
like silverman said..... i am not super fussy and "always been satisfied with Walgreens" also. usually pick up in an hour.
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