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Oct 15, 2018 13:31:33   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
dcampbell52 wrote:
That's why I like my WD Cloud.. I own the Cloud server, I own the internet connection within my house/office and everything connected. Once WD completes the sale of the hardware, they no-longer have anything to do with it. (unless, of course you need service). I don't rely on any secondary company that "owns the cloud server or anything else. Now, the only way I could make mine more secure would be to have it located at home and connect to it from an office some miles away. However, I can connect and use it to back up camera footage to get it away from any hotel/motel that Im staying at around the world as LONG AS I HAVE INTERNET CONNECTIVITY at the hotel/motel or I can go to a wi-fi hotspot.
That's why I like my WD Cloud.. I own the Cloud se... (show quote)


I am not 100% familiar with the mycloud process, but don’t you need to go thru a WD server somewhere to connect to your wdmycloud drive at your house? Or did you set up your firewall to accept file transfers?

I would assume that basically, your data flows thru WD’S servers somewhere to get to or from your Mycloud device across the internet, the question then is what happens if WD’s Servers disappear?

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Oct 15, 2018 13:55:52   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
Dngallagher wrote:
I am not 100% familiar with the mycloud process, but don’t you need to go thru a WD server somewhere to connect to your wdmycloud drive at your house? Or did you set up your firewall to accept file transfers?

I would assume that basically, your data flows thru WD’S servers somewhere to get to or from your Mycloud device across the internet, the question then is what happens if WD’s Servers disappear?


No not at all... the http and stuff is buit-in to the drive's ethernet/usb connection and rom. AND, I assign mine an IP address on my network. You will get a link from the cloud software so that you can upload from other computers or your camera phone. And it seems totally independent of Western Digital or anything else. BUT WD's phone support has been excellent. I started with a 4tb drive and now have added a much larger cabinet with 4 10tb drives and room for 2 more drives. I had been using a couple of my old 1TB Sata drives in it but splurged on the 10's a few months ago and transferred all of the data from my smaller drives to the large one.

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Oct 15, 2018 14:07:43   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
dcampbell52 wrote:
No not at all... the http and stuff is buit-in to the drive's ethernet/usb connection and rom. AND, I assign mine an IP address on my network. You will get a link from the cloud software so that you can upload from other computers or your camera phone. And it seems totally independent of Western Digital or anything else. BUT WD's phone support has been excellent.

But it's not "off-site" unless you put it at someone else's house.

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Oct 15, 2018 14:35:44   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
dcampbell52 wrote:
No not at all... the http and stuff is buit-in to the drive's ethernet/usb connection and rom. AND, I assign mine an IP address on my network. You will get a link from the cloud software so that you can upload from other computers or your camera phone. And it seems totally independent of Western Digital or anything else. BUT WD's phone support has been excellent. I started with a 4tb drive and now have added a much larger cabinet with 4 10tb drives and room for 2 more drives. I had been using a couple of my old 1TB Sata drives in it but splurged on the 10's a few months ago and transferred all of the data from my smaller drives to the large one.
No not at all... the http and stuff is buit-in to... (show quote)


Yes, as long as you access it locally from your network, but if you access it from outside your network, remotely from a hotel, it goes thru WD’s Servers correct?

Like a NEST thermostat, it communicates back to the “mother ship” and thru that communication link it provides access into your network from outside devices, correct?

It could be interesting to monitor traffic on your network to determine what is being sent to WD or wherever from any device added to a fire walled network.

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Oct 15, 2018 16:27:44   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
Longshadow wrote:
But it's not "off-site" unless you put it at someone else's house.


true.. but if you put it at home and work out of your office.. it is off site.. my off site is that I make backups to 3 usb 3.x hard drives on Monday, Wed. and Friday... and rotate through the safe deposit box at my bank. I back up my OS and my photo folders plus any other important folders.. This backup takes place overnight and then is moved to a safe place the following morning. It also has a backup of my accounting software and the appropriate databases. But a copy is also kept on my WD Cloud. By the way... the backup routine is .. current backup is locked in safe in house.. backup that was in the house is moved to a fireproof strongbox in garage... 3rd backup is moved from garage to safe deposit box at bank. old copy in safe deposit box is the next backup to make. This keeps it rotating and guarantees that at worst I have to use a 1 week old backup..

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Oct 15, 2018 16:31:35   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
dcampbell52 wrote:
true.. but if you put it at home and work out of your office.. it is off site.. my off site is that I make backups to 3 usb 3.x hard drives on Monday, Wed. and Friday... and rotate through the safe deposit box at my bank. I back up my OS and my photo folders plus any other important folders.. This backup takes place overnight and then is moved to a safe place the following morning. It also has a backup of my accounting software and the appropriate databases.

A business is much different than personal.

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Oct 15, 2018 16:41:34   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
Longshadow wrote:
A business is much different than personal.


True... but I run a photo business out of my house... and if you need anything more than that for a backup... then you've got bigger issues than restarting or restoring your photos... As a business (and all of my accounting software is backed up to the usb drives) and you can't recover from a 3 day old or a 1 week old backup, then you are going to be spending time rebuilding your house/office and not trying to worry about photos. My system has been through several tornadoes/severe weather in Oklahoma, through blizzards and long power loses in Connecticut and Pennsylvania and 2 hurricanes and multiple heavy rainstorms/power loses in Florida. So far, I haven't lost a photo, invoice, deposit, or any data. (and this is through 5 increasingly larger computers and operating systems from Apple to Windows, Windows 7, Windows 10, Novell and Linux for servers.. I'm now using a Windows server and Linux server in addition to my Western Digital Cloud drives and my Cell Phone.

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Oct 15, 2018 16:55:34   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
dcampbell52 wrote:
True... but I run a photo business out of my house... and if you need anything more than that for a backup... then you've got bigger issues than restarting or restoring your photos... As a business (and all of my accounting software is backed up to the usb drives) and you can't recover from a 3 day old or a 1 week old backup, then you are going to be spending time rebuilding your house/office and not trying to worry about photos. My system has been through several tornadoes/severe weather in Oklahoma, through blizzards and long power loses in Connecticut and Pennsylvania and 2 hurricanes and multiple heavy rainstorms/power loses in Florida. So far, I haven't lost a photo, invoice, deposit, or any data. (and this is through 5 increasingly larger computers and operating systems from Apple to Windows, Windows 7, Windows 10, Novell and Linux for servers.. I'm now using a Windows server and Linux server in addition to my Western Digital Cloud drives and my Cell Phone.
True... but I run a photo business out of my house... (show quote)

Preparedness!
Plastic bags over the computer equipment. I lived in Florida when Charley, Jean, and Frances came through in 2004.
The eye of Charlie went right up 17-92 in the Orlando area, 1.5 miles from my house.

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Oct 15, 2018 18:19:30   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
Longshadow wrote:
Preparedness!
Plastic bags over the computer equipment. I lived in Florida when Charley, Jean, and Frances came through in 2004.
The eye of Charlie went right up 17-92 in the Orlando area, 1.5 miles from my house.


I understand.. I live in Clearwater and got to "enjoy" Irma last year, when the eye went between Tampa and Clearwater (roughly). We were without power in our neighborhood for nearly 2 weeks. So, I got to "verify" my system procedures. I also used to be a "Senior Systems Engineer" for Hartford Insurance Co. in Hartford Ct. (Degree in Electrical Engineering / Computer Design) and got to design and verify large company computers systems and their backups. Then I went to work for Nikon Corp. NYC and got to work (and add to my own) large photography systems. Because of this, I've always been very cognizant of data backups. I guess that backups always seem like overkill until you really need them. It's kind of like health or car insurance... you don't need it until you really need it.

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Oct 15, 2018 18:41:04   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
dcampbell52 wrote:
I understand.. I live in Clearwater and got to "enjoy" Irma last year, when the eye went between Tampa and Clearwater (roughly). We were without power in our neighborhood for nearly 2 weeks. So, I got to "verify" my system procedures. I also used to be a "Senior Systems Engineer" for Hartford Insurance Co. in Hartford Ct. (Degree in Electrical Engineering / Computer Design) and got to design and verify large company computers systems and their backups. Then I went to work for Nikon Corp. NYC and got to work (and add to my own) large photography systems. Because of this, I've always been very cognizant of data backups. I guess that backups always seem like overkill until you really need them. It's kind of like health or car insurance... you don't need it until you really need it.
I understand.. I live in Clearwater and got to &qu... (show quote)

Yup. Been working with various computers and programming since 1972.
It was just in my blood.

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Oct 15, 2018 21:06:41   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
Longshadow wrote:
Yup. Been working with various computers and programming since 1972.
It was just in my blood.


You should look at the WD Cloud.. the main reason that I like it is that when traveling, I can back all of my images from my laptop to the "cloud" at the hotel/motel and get them offsite... incase there is a fire, natural disaster or incase my room is robbed of laptop and or cameras. I do have Adobe Lightroom/photoshop on my laptop for "quick viewing and edits" but I do the real work on them when I get home. I also have a 4tb usb 3 portable drive that I use for the laptop to import images to... This (assuming that nothing happens at the hotel/motel) then is what I use to upload/transfer the images to my "Main" Adobe Lightroom library at home for true editing etc. For me, the laptop is okay for viewing and culling out the bad images but I do my main work on my desktop at home... It has 5 multi terabyte internal drives and a 1tb ssd boot with an 16 gb Nvidia graphics accelerator card and 64 mb of ram.

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Oct 16, 2018 07:43:14   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
dcampbell52 wrote:
You should look at the WD Cloud.. the main reason that I like it is that when traveling, I can back all of my images from my laptop to the "cloud" at the hotel/motel and get them offsite... incase there is a fire, natural disaster or incase my room is robbed of laptop and or cameras. I do have Adobe Lightroom/photoshop on my laptop for "quick viewing and edits" but I do the real work on them when I get home. I also have a 4tb usb 3 portable drive that I use for the laptop to import images to... This (assuming that nothing happens at the hotel/motel) then is what I use to upload/transfer the images to my "Main" Adobe Lightroom library at home for true editing etc. For me, the laptop is okay for viewing and culling out the bad images but I do my main work on my desktop at home... It has 5 multi terabyte internal drives and a 1tb ssd boot with an 16 gb Nvidia graphics accelerator card and 64 mb of ram.
You should look at the WD Cloud.. the main reason ... (show quote)

Good point to ponder, thanks. In my "primary" vacation spot, the internet via the cottage's system is very slow, and sometimes sporadic. I'll have to weigh the benefits differences.

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Oct 16, 2018 08:44:38   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
Longshadow wrote:
Good point to ponder, thanks. In my "primary" vacation spot, the internet via the cottage's system is very slow, and sometimes sporadic. I'll have to weigh the benefits differences.


While the hotel/motel internet is "questionable?" I can always go to a McDonalds, Burger King and many other restaurants and other businesses that have "free" Wi-Fi. I've often sat in the parking lot of a Burger King etc. with my laptop uploading files using their Wi-Fi.. some do require that you purchase something to get the current password, but that's not a big deal. Often the Wi-Fi at the restaurants are faster than the hotel/motel.. and definitely faster than your cottage may be.. AND it gives you an excuse to go buy some fast food.. lol

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Oct 16, 2018 08:50:29   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
dcampbell52 wrote:
While the hotel/motel internet is "questionable?" I can always go to a McDonalds, Burger King and many other restaurants and other businesses that have "free" Wi-Fi. I've often sat in the parking lot of a Burger King etc. with my laptop uploading files using their Wi-Fi.. some do require that you purchase something to get the current password, but that's not a big deal. Often the Wi-Fi at the restaurants are faster than the hotel/motel.. and definitely faster than your cottage may be.. AND it gives you an excuse to go buy some fast food.. lol
While the hotel/motel internet is "questionab... (show quote)



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Oct 16, 2018 08:58:26   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
Longshadow wrote:


By the way, I used to live in Warminster PA.. and of course New Haven CT while working for Nikon. Warminster had some great shooting ops... with Philly near by and then King of Prussia, Washington Crossing and tons of historical places... Not to mention the herd of deer, racoons, etc. that regularly visited the house. But, Florida is a Nature/Birding paradise. I'm in the Clearwater/Largo area and have 10-15 Nature Preserves etc. nearby.

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