Canon Releases New EOS R fullframe mirrorless. The Pros and Cons
Sep 7, 2018 02:12:32 #
gwilliams6 wrote:
As a shooter of both Canon and Nikon DSLR's, I was excited to see the Canon offering. Neat lenses, 6 more MP than the Nikon Z6, I really thought they might be on the right track. Then I saw it, and I couldn't believe my eyes, Canon never changes. They stuck a low pass filter in that thing....the blur filter. As a landscape guy, it turned me off immediately. Looks like a Z6 is on my agenda for Spring, maybe a 7, not sure yet.
Sep 7, 2018 05:40:07 #
brrywill wrote:
As a shooter of both Canon and Nikon DSLR's, I was excited to see the Canon offering. Neat lenses, 6 more MP than the Nikon Z6, I really thought they might be on the right track. Then I saw it, and I couldn't believe my eyes, Canon never changes. They stuck a low pass filter in that thing....the blur filter. As a landscape guy, it turned me off immediately. Looks like a Z6 is on my agenda for Spring, maybe a 7, not sure yet.
Then you will be wasting money when your Z6 arrives and find out it also has a blur filter in front of the sensor.
So make sure you stick with your Nikon Z6 and pretend that it doesn't have one as you will never know the difference it seems.
Sep 7, 2018 05:53:49 #
Sep 7, 2018 06:40:01 #
brrywill wrote:
As a shooter of both Canon and Nikon DSLR's, I was excited to see the Canon offering. Neat lenses, 6 more MP than the Nikon Z6, I really thought they might be on the right track. Then I saw it, and I couldn't believe my eyes, Canon never changes. They stuck a low pass filter in that thing....the blur filter. As a landscape guy, it turned me off immediately. Looks like a Z6 is on my agenda for Spring, maybe a 7, not sure yet.
You might want to do more research. Architect is correct, the z6 also has a optical low pass filter. Seems your assertion that Canon is dumb carries over to Nikon as well in this case.
Sep 7, 2018 08:41:01 #
brrywill wrote:
As a shooter of both Canon and Nikon DSLR's, I was excited to see the Canon offering. Neat lenses, 6 more MP than the Nikon Z6, I really thought they might be on the right track. Then I saw it, and I couldn't believe my eyes, Canon never changes. They stuck a low pass filter in that thing....the blur filter. As a landscape guy, it turned me off immediately. Looks like a Z6 is on my agenda for Spring, maybe a 7, not sure yet.
- but I don't care what Nikon does - still disappointed in the Canon specs...
Sep 7, 2018 09:33:50 #
Big pro. For Canon APS-C folk. The lens adapters on the EOS-R accept all Canon EF-S lenses automatically detecting the lens and cropping the image. No more worry about losing the use of existing lens collections when switching to FF.
Sep 7, 2018 10:37:55 #
Good point as to extended usefulness.
dsmeltz wrote:
Big pro. For Canon APS-C folk. The lens adapters on the EOS-R accept all Canon EF-S lenses automatically detecting the lens and cropping the image. No more worry about losing the use of existing lens collections when switching to FF.
Sep 7, 2018 11:10:53 #
anotherview wrote:
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Finally, I couldn't care less about the video capability of this new camera. I do still photography. I wish Canon would release a video-free version of all its cameras at lower cost for its absence.
Finally, I couldn't care less about the video capability of this new camera. I do still photography. I wish Canon would release a video-free version of all its cameras at lower cost for its absence.
AMEN!!!!!
Sep 7, 2018 12:38:53 #
Architect1776 wrote:
Then you will be wasting money when your Z6 arrives and find out it also has a blur filter in front of the sensor.
So make sure you stick with your Nikon Z6 and pretend that it doesn't have one as you will never know the difference it seems.
So make sure you stick with your Nikon Z6 and pretend that it doesn't have one as you will never know the difference it seems.
I just read the article yesterday, will see if I can find a link. Basically it said the new Nikon sensors are back-illuminated and neither model required a low pass filter. If you look at the specs they only have listed a primary color filter. The Canon specs clearly list a low pass filter.
Sep 7, 2018 13:05:22 #
josquin1 wrote:
Set a wide aperture and a fast shutter speed and that will solve the ibis issue. Relax people. It sounds like a great machine as do the Nikons and the Sonys. If you want to buy the Nikon buy it. The same goes for Canon or Sony machines. All of these mirrorless cameras sound terrific. Buy what you want, you'll be happy.
This statement is not entirely correct.
If lighting, and shooting conditions do not permit a a fast shutter speed and/or you are not using a very fast lens IBIS can come in real handy.
Sep 7, 2018 13:09:58 #
brrywill wrote:
I just read the article yesterday, will see if I can find a link. Basically it said the new Nikon sensors are back-illuminated and neither model required a low pass filter. If you look at the specs they only have listed a primary color filter. The Canon specs clearly list a low pass filter.
I'm afraid you got some wrong information, ever source I checked with said the Z-6 uses a low pass (blur) filter.
Sep 7, 2018 13:12:24 #
josquin1 wrote:
Sure I've never had IBIS and so for me it doesn't exist. I'm just very careful, check the photo on the back and if good move on if not try again.
That's a really inefficient way of shooting and makes trying to catch "moments" almost impossible., when shooting hand held.
Why not get it right first (and possibly only) time?
Sep 7, 2018 15:37:57 #
terrapatesco
Loc: Boise, ID
joer wrote:
IMHO the death knell has begun to toll for the DSLR although it will not happen quickly since change is not ever received well, but is inevitable.
Agree 100%, the DSL will die a long slow, painless death. The winner may be Nikon, Sony, Cannon, or Tesla. It will take 20+ years for all this to shake out, but in the end, DSL is on its way out, mirrorless is on its way in. And while Tesla may not be the winner, some unknown or yet to be formed company, or yet to be born kid may ultimately make the mirrorless camera that everyone has to have.
Sep 7, 2018 15:53:02 #
Rich1939 wrote:
I'm afraid you got some wrong information, ever source I checked with said the Z-6 uses a low pass (blur) filter.
He's just trying to get his jollies buy thinking he got me.
Sep 7, 2018 16:23:20 #
terrapatesco wrote:
Agree 100%, the DSL will die a long slow, painless death. The winner may be Nikon, Sony, Cannon, or Tesla. It will take 20+ years for all this to shake out, but in the end, DSL is on its way out, mirrorless is on its way in. And while Tesla may not be the winner, some unknown or yet to be formed company, or yet to be born kid may ultimately make the mirrorless camera that everyone has to have.
Not to get too far off subject, but Tesla is finding out the hard way that there’s more to actually producing (and marketing/selling automobiles (at a profit) than just an interesting/innovative design.
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