EllieLady Loc: So. CA, USA

I wasn't aware of that study - - that was so harmful, it should have been illegal and discontinued immediately.

I am aware of the Romanian orphanages where there wasn't enough staff to go around and children were ignored when crying and weren't cuddled, etc etc - - ones that were later adopted had insurmountable dissociative and bonding problems. Parents who were happy to have finally adopted child actually wanted to give them back - - they were a miserable and heart-rending situations.

gerdog

EllieLady actually started the original post, and I was the first to add my opinion. There is no copy of the law there. I searched online and found the actual law, and nothing there mandates separating children at the border. Copy and paste the law so we can all see what you're talking about.

Wrangler Loc: North Texas

I stand corrected. That bill was in a different thread.

https://www.hsdl.org/?abstract&did=614

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

Possibly because of the coverage of the hearings.

EllieLady Loc: So. CA, USA

Geezzz rustler - - methinks youse a-bin squattin' on yer saddle jus' a wee bit tooooo looooong.

You're going on my ignore list because I just can't talk to you anymore - - this is what's ridiculous:

You don't know the difference between a law and a policy...

Your opinion (to which I was referring, and which you did state), was that I was either misinformed or a liar - - I am neither, so you are offensive...

How about the very first post - - do I read ???

Hey, guy - - - I wrote it !!! - - you can't even follow that I am the OP, so you don't even belong here.

Any further communication with you is a waste of mine and everyone else's time - - bye bye...

gerdog

That is merely the Homeland Security Act, establishing the agency and its responsibilities, which include immigration. There is nothing in there mandating the separation of families at the border. The detailed law is this:
https://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/SLB/HTML/SLB/act.html
The Homeland Security Act does describe the handling of UNACCOMPANIED children, but not of those with a parent. But the current policy of separating the children from the parents actually CREATES unaccompanied children. I have no problem with laws being enforced, but it can, and has been in the past, enforced without inflicting additional stress on innocent children. An interesting few lines of the Homeland Security Act are:
FUNCTIONS.—The Director of the Bureau of Citizenship
and Immigration Services—
(A) shall establish the policies for performing such
functions as are transferred to the Director by this section
or this Act or otherwise vested in the Director by law;
(B) shall oversee the administration of such policies;
(C) shall advise the Deputy Secretary with respect
to any policy or operation of the Bureau of Citizenship
and Immigration Services that may affect the Bureau of
Border Security of the Department, including potentially
conflicting policies or operations;
(D) shall establish national immigration services policies
and priorities;
You will note the frequent use of the word "policies." People need to understand that "policies" are expected to be developed by the executive branch in order to carry out the laws. That is what the Trump administration did here. They developed a policy that is rapidly becoming unpopular. It has nothing to do with how the law was written. Trump just doesn't want to admit that it was his doing, and he is calling on Congress to bail him out.

EllieLady Loc: So. CA, USA

And trying with all his might to blame the Dems and past Administrations - - and there's not even a shred of truth in it - - he just never stops lying to get his way !!!

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

All part of his plan, he has repeatedly asked congress to reform immigration law and increase border security. Congress is now being pushed by Americans asking for reform.

Reddog Loc: Southern Calif

Thats why Trump is called “LIAR and CHIEF”

EllieLady Loc: So. CA, USA

Liar-IN-Chief (a take-off on Commander-in-Chief) is what I've always heard ???

But a LIAR either way, huh ??? Disgusting...

gerdog

It is absolutely his plan, but harming children psychologically to accomplish it is merely the act of a bully. Obama was saddled for 6 years with a do-nothing Congress, and now Trump has the same thing. Trump will sign nothing unless it gives him everything he wants, especially the billions of dollars for his monument, "the wall." The problem is that too many people see that it was his doing, not the law, that is causing those families unnecessary pain. Trump forgot that not every American views other people's children as unimportant details. He forgot that most Americans do, indeed, have a heart and a conscience.

Reddog Loc: Southern Calif

My mistake, but Disgusting in so many ways!

dreamon

The Heritage Foundation mission statement: The mission of The Heritage Foundation is to formulate and promote conservative public policies based on the principles of free enterprise, limited government, individual freedom, traditional American values, and a strong national defense.

...to promote conservative public policies..."

That's not exactly an unbiased source...

EllieLady Loc: So. CA, USA

Exactly so...ugh !!!

EllieLady Loc: So. CA, USA

BOTH work - - and sad either way - - this buffoon is a bad excuse to be "Leader of the Free World".