Just to get ready for my next Nikon DX body upgrade - which one?
Jun 17, 2018 10:44:53 #
Jun 17, 2018 10:54:50 #
I just got my new D7200 body yesterday. I have only taken a few photos with it so far but love the camera. I like the heft of it and the way it feels in my hand. It weighs almost a pound more than my current D5500 body.
It focuses quicker. Displays the phi tee quicker. It is too soon to determine if the photos are any better (probably not).
I bought the 7200 new from Best Buy for 799. I opened a new charge with the and get 10% in store credit for opening the charge and a few credits more for being a rewards member. Comes to about 100 dollars. Will use to buy another battery and a couple new cards. Already paid the card off so no interest will be paid.
I have my 5500 and 2 lenses up for sale. Hopefully they will sell soon. A dealer has offered 490. So I am guessing 600-650 is a fair price.
Anyway. Good luck to you in your quest for a new camera
It focuses quicker. Displays the phi tee quicker. It is too soon to determine if the photos are any better (probably not).
I bought the 7200 new from Best Buy for 799. I opened a new charge with the and get 10% in store credit for opening the charge and a few credits more for being a rewards member. Comes to about 100 dollars. Will use to buy another battery and a couple new cards. Already paid the card off so no interest will be paid.
I have my 5500 and 2 lenses up for sale. Hopefully they will sell soon. A dealer has offered 490. So I am guessing 600-650 is a fair price.
Anyway. Good luck to you in your quest for a new camera
Jun 17, 2018 10:58:02 #
AndyH wrote:
Cool! Feel free to jump in with any additional thoughts on how you're making your choices.
The most important result of this, for me, will be to set my eBay search parameters to give me all the "Dxxxx" for sale posts on a daily basis. I find this very helpful when I'm sorta kinda looking for something if a good bargain comes along. That's how I've found almost all of the gear I've bought on eBay, where I've been shopping for a decade.
Andy
The most important result of this, for me, will be to set my eBay search parameters to give me all the "Dxxxx" for sale posts on a daily basis. I find this very helpful when I'm sorta kinda looking for something if a good bargain comes along. That's how I've found almost all of the gear I've bought on eBay, where I've been shopping for a decade.
Andy
For the best value for money, I’d get a D7200 since it meets your criteria and has a focus drive motor so you can use very good, pro quality AF lenses. Like the Nikkor AF 35mm f/2D. Note that the newer, more fancier D7500 has no focus drive motor.
Jun 17, 2018 11:01:42 #
Fotomacher wrote:
For the best value for money, I’d get a D7200 since it meets your criteria and has a focus drive motor so you can use very good, pro quality AF lenses. Like the Nikkor AF 35mm f/2D. Note that the newer, more fancier D7500 has no focus drive motor.
Good point! Some of the earlier AF lenses were pretty darn good.
Andy
Jun 17, 2018 11:30:06 #
hookedupin2005
Loc: Northwestern New Mexico
AndyH wrote:
Good info. I took the 24mp minimum as gospel from the mouth of Ken Rockwell, but am open to other views. We have made cropped prints up to 16x20 already, and I find the resolution more than adequate - actually much better than some of my old time 35mm work.
What's the upgrade in the D7500? I didn't see much difference on the Digital Camera Database comparison head to head.
Andy
What's the upgrade in the D7500? I didn't see much difference on the Digital Camera Database comparison head to head.
Andy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-EvWwk21V4
Jun 17, 2018 11:42:37 #
hookedupin2005 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-EvWwk21V4
This jibes with what I'd concluded. I do not like the noise of shooting at ISOs like that, and don't have much interest in high resolution video. If I buy carefully, I can buy us each a D7200 body (eventually, there's no hurry) for less than the price of a D500 or D7500.
Andy
Jun 17, 2018 13:10:53 #
Jun 17, 2018 13:12:25 #
amfoto1
Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
You made no mention of the lenses you've got, other than to say you're happy with them.
Lens upgrades might do more for you than a camera upgrade. But, it really depends upon what you already have and what you really need.
A D7000-series camera or higher gives you access to a lot more lenses, new and old. If you want autofocus, D3000-series and D5000-series cameras limit you to AI-S or AI-P lenses.
Sticking with an APS-C/DX camera (max 24MP right now), has the advantage of being able to use both DX and FX lenses.... While an "upgrade" to an FX camera forces you to use FX lenses, which are necessarily bigger, heavier and more expensive. This is even true when using FX lenses on both cameras. For example, a 300mm f/4 on a DX camera is roughly equivalent to a 500mm f/4 lens on an FX camera. Compare the size, weight and price of a 300mm f/4 Nikkor versus a 500mm f/4 Nikkor!
Choices and buying decisions also depend upon what you shoot and what you intend to do with your images. For example, for sports photography you'd look for different features than you would for landscape shots or portraiture. You say you've done satisfactory prints up to 16x24" from the camera you have now... but that's likely close to the upper limit of the camera's capabilities. A camera without a low pass filter can be expected to retain a little more fine detail, but there won't be a great deal of difference between 24MP sensors with and without that filter. You'd have to look very close to see the difference... a lot closer than you'd normally view a print. In fact, you might be the only person who ever sees the diff... while viewing your images at ridiculously large magnification on your computer monitor, before re-sizing the image for it's intended purpose.
In my mind, there isn't much reason to upgrade unless you skip over the D5000-series and go directly to the D7000-series or higher.
Some people consider D7500 a downgrade from D7200.... For one, the newer camera is lower resolution (21MP vs 24MP) and the older model gets more shots per battery charge and has dual memory card slots. OTOH, the newer camera's sensor is the same as the well-respected one in the D500, plus it has faster continuous shooting rate and slightly higher usable ISO, as well as the addition of a partially articulated Touch Screen LCD (although that's slightly lower resolution).
https://www.techradar.com/news/nikon-d7500-vs-d7200-8-key-differences-you-need-to-know
http://cameradecision.com/compare/Nikon-D7500-vs-Nikon-D7200
https://www.imaging-resource.com/cameras/nikon/d7200/vs/nikon/d7500/
https://www.wexphotovideo.com/blog/reviews/nikon-d7500-vs-d7200/
Of course, both cameras are usable for a variety of purposes, but IMO the D7500 is a little more geared toward sports/action shooting (sort of a "D500 lite"), while the D7200 may be a better choice for some other things.
And, at least for the time being, D7200 are much better priced.... $800 (sale price, $300 discount) for the D7200 versus $1150 (sale price, $100 discount) for the D7500.
Lens upgrades might do more for you than a camera upgrade. But, it really depends upon what you already have and what you really need.
A D7000-series camera or higher gives you access to a lot more lenses, new and old. If you want autofocus, D3000-series and D5000-series cameras limit you to AI-S or AI-P lenses.
Sticking with an APS-C/DX camera (max 24MP right now), has the advantage of being able to use both DX and FX lenses.... While an "upgrade" to an FX camera forces you to use FX lenses, which are necessarily bigger, heavier and more expensive. This is even true when using FX lenses on both cameras. For example, a 300mm f/4 on a DX camera is roughly equivalent to a 500mm f/4 lens on an FX camera. Compare the size, weight and price of a 300mm f/4 Nikkor versus a 500mm f/4 Nikkor!
Choices and buying decisions also depend upon what you shoot and what you intend to do with your images. For example, for sports photography you'd look for different features than you would for landscape shots or portraiture. You say you've done satisfactory prints up to 16x24" from the camera you have now... but that's likely close to the upper limit of the camera's capabilities. A camera without a low pass filter can be expected to retain a little more fine detail, but there won't be a great deal of difference between 24MP sensors with and without that filter. You'd have to look very close to see the difference... a lot closer than you'd normally view a print. In fact, you might be the only person who ever sees the diff... while viewing your images at ridiculously large magnification on your computer monitor, before re-sizing the image for it's intended purpose.
In my mind, there isn't much reason to upgrade unless you skip over the D5000-series and go directly to the D7000-series or higher.
Some people consider D7500 a downgrade from D7200.... For one, the newer camera is lower resolution (21MP vs 24MP) and the older model gets more shots per battery charge and has dual memory card slots. OTOH, the newer camera's sensor is the same as the well-respected one in the D500, plus it has faster continuous shooting rate and slightly higher usable ISO, as well as the addition of a partially articulated Touch Screen LCD (although that's slightly lower resolution).
https://www.techradar.com/news/nikon-d7500-vs-d7200-8-key-differences-you-need-to-know
http://cameradecision.com/compare/Nikon-D7500-vs-Nikon-D7200
https://www.imaging-resource.com/cameras/nikon/d7200/vs/nikon/d7500/
https://www.wexphotovideo.com/blog/reviews/nikon-d7500-vs-d7200/
Of course, both cameras are usable for a variety of purposes, but IMO the D7500 is a little more geared toward sports/action shooting (sort of a "D500 lite"), while the D7200 may be a better choice for some other things.
And, at least for the time being, D7200 are much better priced.... $800 (sale price, $300 discount) for the D7200 versus $1150 (sale price, $100 discount) for the D7500.
Jun 17, 2018 13:13:53 #
ELNikkor wrote:
D7200 or D7500
Do you have an opinion on whether the extra features of the 7500 are worth nearly twice the price for your type of work? I don't see it for mine, which I stated in the OP, the only real thing I want is the tilting screen. Most everyone I know who owns one loves whichever model they bought.
We all have different needs, and I do appreciate hearing new information or tips from those who use one.
Andy
Jun 17, 2018 13:24:50 #
donald4u
Loc: California
Some time ago I had a d 40 then I upgraded to the 5100. The best photographer I think that makes the comparison between the 7500 and the 7200 is Steve Perry. i have seen him on here before. I want to up grade but I am not ready. There are so many bells and whistles in the 7200 that I won't use . I do like the tilting screen on the 7500. Wish it was fully articulated like my 5100. Touch screen is not a deal breaking. Prices have dropped .
Jun 17, 2018 14:27:59 #
AndyH wrote:
My wife and I are both very happy with out D3200 b... (show quote)
) visiting the grands, while I've got a 60 hour per week job without the ability to even use the five weeks of vacation I have anyway. So, no, retirement is not likely in my near term future, and getting ready to go FF ain't in the cards for now. Going to the "prosumer" level without going FF is also not really in our plans - we aren't working pros who have to shoot in bad weather or do long burst shooting. For the most part, our shooting is quite fair weather and leisurely and we're very happy with what we've got so far for lenses. D7200 or D7500
I think the D7200 is the better of the two.
Jun 17, 2018 14:53:49 #
ecurb1105 wrote:
D7200 or D7500
I think the D7200 is the better of the two.
I think the D7200 is the better of the two.
Have you used both? Why do you think so?
Andy
Jun 17, 2018 17:03:54 #
Jun 17, 2018 17:06:01 #
Jun 17, 2018 17:24:55 #
Tommy II wrote:
D500. You will love it.
Why?
I don't "love" spending enough to buy my wife and I EACH a refurbished or lightly used D7200 and get a headstart on another lens, only to go backwards in MP capacity and gain features that I don't need or want?
Did you actually read my post? Furnishing an answer of "You will love it" with no details, reasons or explanation isn't really helping me here.
Sorry to be blunt, but a lot of Hoggers seem to offer one sentence explanations without ever answering the question "Why?".
Andy
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