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May 8, 2018 07:01:47   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
In this technological age, why would it not be possible to place some kind of security device within guns themselves that would alert schools, etc., when they have been brought within the perimeter of those locations? Or, the device itself do something to the gun. This is just a brainstorming idea. Each gun could be coded, so that police guns would not set off any undue alarm.

There are problems inherent in this idea, but if Apple can secure its owners' phones, then something should be able to be done to secure an individual's gun.

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May 8, 2018 07:04:23   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
It’s called a metal detector.

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May 8, 2018 07:18:02   #
Bunko.T Loc: Western Australia.
 
SteveR wrote:
In this technological age, why would it not be possible to place some kind of security device within guns themselves that would alert schools, etc., when they have been brought within the perimeter of those locations? Or, the device itself do something to the gun. This is just a brainstorming idea. Each gun could be coded, so that police guns would not set off any undue alarm.

There are problems inherent in this idea, but if Apple can secure its owners' phones, then something should be able to be done to secure an individual's gun.
In this technological age, why would it not be pos... (show quote)


Forget all these fantasy fixes. The simple facts are that the people paid, & very handsomely at that, don't do the job they're paid for. These are the ppl who are supposed to govern for the nation, not the radical self interest group who happen to have the G men by the short & curlies.
From the top, they don't have the spine to govern & that includes gun control.
They're supposed to be the brains running the country, collectively they'd be hard pushed to run a bath.
Only in America!!!

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May 8, 2018 07:28:25   #
tradio Loc: Oxford, Ohio
 
So all new guns would be built with this electronic detection devise. What about the 5 billion guns that are already in circulation?
How long would it be before there was a "work around"?
It's like I worked on a project one time for this company that made one of the best radar detectors available. They were also the company that made the radar guns for the cops.

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May 8, 2018 07:42:00   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
tradio wrote:
So all new guns would be built with this electronic detection devise. What about the 5 billion guns that are already in circulation?
How long would it be before there was a "work around"?
It's like I worked on a project one time for this company that made one of the best radar detectors available. They were also the company that made the radar guns for the cops.


Even if AR-15's could no longer be sold, what about those already in the hands of the public? Granted, it's not a perfect idea, it was just a thought, given today's technology. I would also think that any semi-auto rifle or handgun could also be modified.

Metal detectors? You know how long lines are to go through those. Imagine the problems at schools and malls. "Come an hour early for school to clear security!!" With my idea, each location would merely have to broadcast signals around their perimeter.

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May 8, 2018 10:05:45   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
The AR15 thing is a very large crock. More people were killed by Roman Swords . Humans will find a way to kill each other, regardles of the weapon. A child is far more likely to die in a car wreck on the way to the school than be killed by an AR15

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May 8, 2018 11:55:28   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
boberic wrote:
The AR15 thing is a very large crock. More people were killed by Roman Swords . Humans will find a way to kill each other, regardles of the weapon. A child is far more likely to die in a car wreck on the way to the school than be killed by an AR15


M-1's were sold by the hundreds of thousands after WWII. The one big difference between the two is the magazine.

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May 9, 2018 06:21:18   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
boberic wrote:
The AR15 thing is a very large crock. More people were killed by Roman Swords . Humans will find a way to kill each other, regardles of the weapon. A child is far more likely to die in a car wreck on the way to the school than be killed by an AR15


I don't think a crazy person with a Roman sword is as much of a threat as one with an AR-15......

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May 9, 2018 09:31:24   #
Iwantitall Loc: Chicago (south side)
 
Bunko.T wrote:
Forget all these fantasy fixes. The simple facts are that the people paid, & very handsomely at that, don't do the job they're paid for. These are the ppl who are supposed to govern for the nation, not the radical self interest group who happen to have the G men by the short & curlies.
From the top, they don't have the spine to govern & that includes gun control.
They're supposed to be the brains running the country, collectively they'd be hard pushed to run a bath.
Only in America!!!
Forget all these fantasy fixes. The simple facts a... (show quote)


Says the one who let his country take his

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May 9, 2018 10:47:18   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
Bunko.T wrote:
Forget all these fantasy fixes. The simple facts are that the people paid, & very handsomely at that, don't do the job they're paid for. These are the ppl who are supposed to govern for the nation, not the radical self interest group who happen to have the G men by the short & curlies.
From the top, they don't have the spine to govern & that includes gun control.
They're supposed to be the brains running the country, collectively they'd be hard pushed to run a bath.
Only in America!!!
Forget all these fantasy fixes. The simple facts a... (show quote)


That's the answer. Gun Control. Take away all the guns from the people, except for the criminals. Then the criminals will know that none of the law abiding citizens are armed and are easy pickin's. You do realize that the criminals "WILL NOT TURN THEIR GUNS IN!" EVER!

You can't stop someone that is crazy. 99% of the time, it simply can't be done. If a person is crazy, they may use a car to kill, gun, knife, pills, rope, plastic bag, bare hands, sword, arrow, rock, book, poison, hammer, bat, ad infinitum.

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May 9, 2018 11:06:30   #
Pegasus Loc: Texas Gulf Coast
 
SteveR wrote:
M-1's were sold by the hundreds of thousands after WWII. The one big difference between the two is the magazine.


The M1 Garand does not use a magazine; it uses a clip, an en bloc clip.

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May 9, 2018 11:21:22   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
SteveR wrote:
In this technological age, why would it not be possible to place some kind of security device within guns themselves that would alert schools, etc., when they have been brought within the perimeter of those locations? Or, the device itself do something to the gun. This is just a brainstorming idea. Each gun could be coded, so that police guns would not set off any undue alarm.

There are problems inherent in this idea, but if Apple can secure its owners' phones, then something should be able to be done to secure an individual's gun.
In this technological age, why would it not be pos... (show quote)


Not only would every firearm need the transmitting device, every location you want to secure would have to have the receiving technology as well. Also. there is the number of guns already in circulation problem. As a well cared for firearm can last for decades (I know--I have a couple) most of these guns will be in circulation long after the people posting here are gone. I cannot imagine anything more incendiary than making all gun owners turn in their guns for "coding".

Remember how freaked out this crowd was over Jade Helm 15? Multiply that by a metric fuckton and that will be the response.

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May 9, 2018 12:21:32   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Bazbo wrote:
Not only would every firearm need the transmitting device, every location you want to secure would have to have the receiving technology as well. Also. there is the number of guns already in circulation problem. As a well cared for firearm can last for decades (I know--I have a couple) most of these guns will be in circulation long after the people posting here are gone. I cannot imagine anything more incendiary than making all gun owners turn in their guns for "coding".

Remember how freaked out this crowd was over Jade Helm 15? Multiply that by a metric fuckton and that will be the response.
Not only would every firearm need the transmitting... (show quote)


So....what would laws banning the things accomplish? You'd have the same problem.

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May 9, 2018 12:43:22   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
SteveR wrote:
In this technological age, why would it not be possible to place some kind of security device within guns themselves that would alert schools, etc., when they have been brought within the perimeter of those locations? Or, the device itself do something to the gun. This is just a brainstorming idea. Each gun could be coded, so that police guns would not set off any undue alarm.

There are problems inherent in this idea, but if Apple can secure its owners' phones, then something should be able to be done to secure an individual's gun.
In this technological age, why would it not be pos... (show quote)


Steve, obviously you’re not a crazed gun zealot?!
I already floated that idea. The result?
When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns!!!!
Good luck with your idea!!!! LoL

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-525885-1.html

SS

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May 9, 2018 13:05:14   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
SteveR wrote:
So....what would laws banning the things accomplish? You'd have the same problem.


I never suggested banning guns. This is a problem we have to live with and find ways to manage around. My suggestion: universal background checks, closing the gun show loophole and banning high cap mags and the various contraptions used to turn semi auto weapons to full auto.

Long term. society will heal itself of this scourge (excessive gun violence, not gun ownership) because 1. Although there are more and more guns, they are concentrated in fewer and fewer households; and, 2. Young people do not appear to have romanticized guns in the way that the older generations have.

Demographics, in general, and young people, in particular, are the solution.

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