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Apr 13, 2018 13:14:43   #
chaman
 
JD750 wrote:
Yes DSLRs have peaked and their rein is over. Sales will continue to decrease in the future. DSLRs are bigger, heavier, more complex, more expensive to manufacture and more expensive to maintain than mirrorless interchangeable lens cameras. Add to the fact the mirrorless crowd has stuffed them with modern electronics like GPS and WiFi, and the ability to share instantly (some not all). There is a new kid on the block folks and she's kicking butt and taking names. Technology keeps marching forward.
Yes DSLRs have peaked and their rein is over. Sale... (show quote)


I love how some love to brag about their own choice of equipment but as months pass by they are still shooting crappy, mediocre images. I guess they feel the need to brag about something, just anything, except their own ability or talent. Pathetic.

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Apr 13, 2018 13:44:52   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
chaman wrote:
I love how some love to brag about their own choice of equipment but as months pass by they are still shooting crappy, mediocre images. I guess they feel the need to brag about something, just anything, except their own ability or talent. Pathetic.


Where was the bragging? I was writing about competing technologies. FYI - Have a look at my handle. But I am comfortable with the images I get from any camera I have in my hand. The camera is just a tool it is not the artist.

In answer to you troll bait, I shoot for my own enjoyment, and how about this, I don't give a rat what you or anyone else thinks about my shots (but I do get a lot of complements which I enjoy of course).

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Apr 13, 2018 15:36:55   #
chaman
 
JD750 wrote:
Where was the bragging? I was writing about competing technologies. FYI - Have a look at my handle. But I am comfortable with the images I get from any camera I have in my hand. The camera is just a tool it is not the artist.

In answer to you troll bait, I shoot for my own enjoyment, and how about this, I don't give a rat what you or anyone else thinks about my shots (but I do get a lot of complements which I enjoy of course).


Where was the bragging? How about the immature comment about the new kid on the block, etc, etc. Is been honest a new concept for you? The "troll" idiocy is loved by those who get caught with their pants down around this circus of a site. The VAST majority of those who love to diss DSLRs are usually mediocre shooters who live in a delusion, like you. Enjoy that little dose of reality too....of course.

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Apr 13, 2018 18:01:21   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
chaman wrote:
What is dying is the quality of threads and the quality of images posted in this site. To be honest is not dying, IT DIED a long time ago.


So, I'm guessing you will be saying goodbye??

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Apr 13, 2018 20:50:56   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
chaman wrote:
Where was the bragging? How about the immature comment about the new kid on the block, etc, etc. Is been honest a new concept for you? The "troll" idiocy is loved by those who get caught with their pants down around this circus of a site. The VAST majority of those who love to diss DSLRs are usually mediocre shooters who live in a delusion, like you. Enjoy that little dose of reality too....of course.


“The new kid on the block” is bragging?

I have a huge amount of DSLR gear, and yet I can see the future of cameras is heading a different direction. Odd that you don’t get that and prefer to make personal troll attacks rather than intelligent discourse. I will not reply to any more of your immature posts.

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Apr 13, 2018 21:51:18   #
sirlensalot Loc: Arizona
 
I think they will be around for some time. Overall sales may be declining, but some models will perpetuate the evolution of DSLR's. Latest example - the Nikon D850. Eventually, I think MILC's will rule. Latest example - Sony a7rIII.

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Apr 13, 2018 22:00:40   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
sirlensalot wrote:
I think they will be around for some time. Overall sales may be declining, but some models will perpetuate the evolution of DSLR's. Latest example - the Nikon D850. Eventually, I think MILC's will rule. Latest example - Sony a7rIII.


Exactly. FYI I love my Olympus OM-D EM-5 Mii. It is superior in many ways to my DSLR bodies. But if I want maximum IQ, the Nikons deliver. But that is short lived. A couple generations of sensors from now, that will not be the case.

And with Canikon entering the mirrorless market, late but not too late, one can hope that our existing lenses will fit the new camera body format.

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Apr 13, 2018 23:47:27   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
traderjohn wrote:
Was not aware this generated that much interest. My thought is the DSLR industry may be wounded. The new purchasing group is not that interested in lugging around a camera, lens, and other paraphernalia. The cell phone is their weapon of choice. It is instant gratification. They take the picture or a "selfie" and within seconds it is on its way, and they move on. There is no evaluation of shadows, no composition no concern about a triangle. No magic time to take a picture.
Every industry needs new blood. I don't think this generation is attracted to the DSLR. It's too cumbersome it takes the time to take a picture it can be too heavy. As Spring moves into Summer just for the hell of it look at how many are carrying around DSLR's and those taking a picture with cell phones. Take a look at the age group. A photographer is just a word for them. What is average age group here??
Was not aware this generated that much interest. M... (show quote)


Yes, this group is older and knows the advantage of a camera with interchangeable lenses. But that still can be taught. I have a grandson in his early 20s that is in the Coast Guard. Two Christmases ago for his present he received my older Olympus E-M5. He soon after, with my advice, ordered the 12-40mm f2.8 and the 40-150mm f2.8. Now he has moved from Alaska to Hawaii and is learning all new subjects to shoot. Does he use his cellphone for a camera? Of course - usually when his camera is not close at hand. But on a vacation with us in Charlotte, SC, he and I shot the town - and it wasn't with our cellphones.

The future will be smaller for the interchangeable market overall. This will continue as cellphone cameras improve to a point of diminishing returns. There will be some, taught by us, that will recognize the advantages of going beyond the cellphone to an interchangeable system. But the market share remaining will increasingly go to the mirrorless over the DSLR. This is more evident than ever from the article sighted by the OP.

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Apr 14, 2018 00:14:01   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
JD750 wrote:
“The new kid on the block” is bragging?

I have a huge amount of DSLR gear, and yet I can see the future of cameras is heading a different direction. Odd that you don’t get that and prefer to make personal troll attacks rather than intelligent discourse. I will not reply to any more of your immature posts.


JD750, if you are lucky, you too can be placed on chaman's "Ignore" list. I have yet to hear anything positive or encouraging from him.

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Apr 14, 2018 12:06:10   #
TheDman Loc: USA
 
chaman wrote:
I love how some love to brag about their own choice of equipment but as months pass by they are still shooting crappy, mediocre images. I guess they feel the need to brag about something, just anything, except their own ability or talent. Pathetic.




My Saturdays during the film era: go to the zoo, shoot photos.
My Saturdays with my DSLR: go to the zoo, shoot photos.
My future Saturdays with a MILC: go to the zoo, shoot photos.

Yes, mirrorless is going to change everything!

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Apr 14, 2018 13:24:02   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
TheDman wrote:


My Saturdays during the film era: go to the zoo, shoot photos.
My Saturdays with my DSLR: go to the zoo, shoot photos.
My future Saturdays with a MILC: go to the zoo, shoot photos.

Yes, mirrorless is going to change everything!


Putting down families that do not have a lot of money to go to French Polynesia or Germany is not positive or encouraging. Some families are relegated to the zoo by their family budget. We need to encourage how to take the best possible zoo pictures, not putting them down because they are relegated to such.

And just to be clear, even though I haven't been to the zoo in years, some of my best shots of my grandkids are those of the grandkids interacting with the animals at the zoo. That look of wonder on their faces, the smiles and laughter at the petting area - it's nothing more than "fish in the barrel" shooting. That is what we need to be encouraging: the positive, not the negative.

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Apr 14, 2018 13:31:19   #
chaman
 
TheDman wrote:


My Saturdays during the film era: go to the zoo, shoot photos.
My Saturdays with my DSLR: go to the zoo, shoot photos.
My future Saturdays with a MILC: go to the zoo, shoot photos.

Yes, mirrorless is going to change everything!


Careful, the "intelligent" and "superior" beings that infect this bandwidth will use their 3 defective neurons and call you intricate things like "troll". :)

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Apr 14, 2018 13:40:18   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
chaman wrote:
Careful, the "intelligent" and "superior" beings that infect this bandwidth will use their 3 defective neurons and call you intricate things like "troll". :)


Another "positive and encouraging" comment!

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Apr 14, 2018 14:41:40   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
wdross wrote:
JD750, if you are lucky, you too can be placed on chaman's "Ignore" list. I have yet to hear anything positive or encouraging from him.



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Apr 14, 2018 15:00:23   #
chaman
 
JD750 wrote:



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