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Mar 20, 2018 15:03:34   #
Ron Dial Loc: Cuenca, Ecuador
 
Fully auto, semi auto (aperature or shutter priority) or manual. All have a place. I have always thought that any were OK, as long as the camera operator chose to use the particular mode, and understood the reason for using it.

Fully auto is designed by the manufacturer to produce a reasonably good photo in a wide range of environments. At an event where you need speed, it is often the best choice. But when control of shutter speed (dragging it) or control of the depth of field and focus are the choice, then use something else.

The key is to know and understand your camera and what it is capable of.

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Mar 20, 2018 15:35:13   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
SueScott wrote:
Totally off topic from the OP, but boy, do I agree with you! I'd take a standard transmission over automatic any day, especially in a pickup truck (I think auto in a truck is rather sacreligous). The current trend to make everything automatic takes the decision making process away from the individual - we need to use our brains or they will atrophy.


An automatic can't see whats coming up and plan for the right gear.

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Mar 20, 2018 15:39:56   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
blackest wrote:
An automatic can't see whats coming up and plan for the right gear.


I hope you are trying to be funny because otherwise your post has nothing to do with the topic.

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Mar 20, 2018 15:41:07   #
chaman
 
I have no problem whatsoever with anyone shooting AUTO. But, please, dont glorify it. Dont come here saying that doing so its even evidence of being more knowledgeable that folks who understand the exposure triangle and prefer going manual. Im sorry to inform that all you are doing is PRESSING a BUTTON. There is not a complicated thought process behind it. Also comparing that to other automated machines is nothing short of absurd and sounds like a desperate attempt to further validate what is really THEIR choice. A genius went even further and tried to compare manual trans Ferraris to newer ones mentioning their prices. Well, Mr. Automotive......the older ones sure cost more because of their history, their limited numbers, etc. Having a manual trans has NOTHING to do with it. If you are happy pressing a button, continue to do so but stop romanticizing it. ANYONE CAN PRESS A BUTTON.......but not anyone can create a desirable, proud to be off photograph. Dont fool yourselves.

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Mar 20, 2018 15:41:42   #
Retina Loc: Near Charleston,SC
 
mcarchia wrote:
I am an amateur photographer and have been for over 10 years. I strive to learn manual modes but I find that I don't always know how the camera should be set up. I have taken thousands if not tens of thousands of photos for all the trips I've been on and edited these photos and then made photo albums. I must admit that the auto mode has done me well. Not only am I happy with the results but every time I show my photos and albums to others I get many compliments. I know that I am not an expert and the professional can see so many more discrepancies than I can see, but to the 98% of the people out there who are not experts, who just enjoy seeing a nice picture, the auto mode really works for me. I still experiment with manual modes, especially for depth of field issues, but when I travel or see something I want to photograph I go back to the trusted auto mode and rely upon Lightroom or Photoshop to help get the final results.
Just my opinion but there are many non professionals out there who I am sure get confused as I do with auto vs manual modes. If you take photos for a living or use your camera every day then getting total control of your camera is certainly the way to go, but if you put your camera down for periods of time to enjoy other things in life, then enjoying auto mode when you pick it up to take those pictures really seems to work.
Just my opinion, but 10 years of taking photos has some worth.
Mike
I am an amateur photographer and have been for ove... (show quote)

I'm guessing you perform in an amateur orchestra because you are smiling in your avatar photo. I am also guessing you have always taken good photos with any camera because you have an artist's eye and an appreciation for great composition(s). You have an awareness of aesthetics that can be just as important as a mastery of technique or the price of the brass or glass you use in your art. AUTO lets one concentrate more on compsition when time is very limited. I use AUTO mainly for indoor candid shots or when I don't have time to make people wait for me to take a quick group snapshot.

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Mar 20, 2018 15:42:36   #
chaman
 
blackest wrote:
An automatic can't see whats coming up and plan for the right gear.


In todays technology.....it can.

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Mar 20, 2018 15:44:12   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Steamboat wrote:
So I must ask :
Do you have personal standards regarding Post and Photoshop?
.......for your style, as a viewer I always hope I'm looking at SOOC shots


I always think of Mathew Brady moving Civil War bodies around for better composition. I wish it wasn't so.
Honestly there aren't any rules or laws just personal integrity.

I know I'm off topic

You're not inappropriate. I'm just an amateur, so I hope I'm not putting myself at risk.

As far as ethics go, I eventually settled on the Olympics procedures to govern my workflow. That basically means I start with SOOC JPEG, and then limit myself to certain basic operations - insuring the image is plumb {respects gravity}, minor adjustments to color levels, minor sharpening, and cropping.

This relates to this thread because I need to be close SOOC. Given time, I can spend many minutes choosing perspective; once I have chosen shutter speed to stop motion and aperture to give sufficient DOF, I want exposure to be as correct as I can get it. The photograph of the dragonfly presents special challenges - its length demands small aperture, but its motion demands high shutter speed, and focus needs to be right on. Not knowing where it will land, and its tendency not to stay anywhere very long puts a strain on manual adjustments. I tend to use 'P' mode, because my Pentax camera allows me to make last second adjustments, adjusting shutter speed by flicking my forefinger off the trigger to the front 'e-dial' and adjusting aperture with my thumb on the rear 'e-dial'. Once I get a KP, which seems to handle high ISO settings very well, I will experiment more with 'TAv' mode, which is like 'M' mode, but the camera adjusts ISO setting to make my other settings work.

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Mar 20, 2018 15:57:29   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
chaman wrote:
In todays technology.....it can.


The car can, not the Tranny...Tranny responds to the car or drivers input.

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Mar 20, 2018 16:03:09   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
leftj wrote:
I hope you are trying to be funny because otherwise your post has nothing to do with the topic.


Blackest is just responding to another individual's previous post on this subject, relevant or not...guess you have to understand the analogy.

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Mar 20, 2018 16:08:06   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Actually, Dragonflies are one of the easier insects to photograph. They stay relatively still and return to a perch if disturbed in many cases. It helps to know your subject matter... The angle of the shot isn't conducive for a sharp image. The angle is wrong and the focus isn't where it should be (on the eyes). There is a bright spectral highlight on the eye that needs to be toned down. Overall, the exposure is over what it should be. My personal opinion of course, but macro is my niche. I shoot all of my macro entirely in manual modes.
rehess wrote:
You're not inappropriate. I'm just an amateur, so I hope I'm not putting myself at risk.

As far as ethics go, I eventually settled on the Olympics procedures to govern my workflow. That basically means I start with SOOC JPEG, and then limit myself to certain basic operations - insuring the image is plumb {respects gravity}, minor adjustments to color levels, minor sharpening, and cropping.

This relates to this thread because I need to be close SOOC. Given time, I can spend many minutes choosing perspective; once I have chosen shutter speed to stop motion and aperture to give sufficient DOF, I want exposure to be as correct as I can get it. The photograph of the dragonfly presents special challenges - its length demands small aperture, but its motion demands high shutter speed, and focus needs to be right on. Not knowing where it will land, and its tendency not to stay anywhere very long puts a strain on manual adjustments. I tend to use 'P' mode, because my Pentax camera allows me to make last second adjustments, adjusting shutter speed by flicking my forefinger off the trigger to the front 'e-dial' and adjusting aperture with my thumb on the rear 'e-dial'. Once I get a KP, which seems to handle high ISO settings very well, I will experiment more with 'TAv' mode, which is like 'M' mode, but the camera adjusts ISO setting to make my other settings work.
You're not inappropriate. I'm just an amateur, so ... (show quote)

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Mar 20, 2018 16:15:00   #
10MPlayer Loc: California
 
chippy wrote:
We pay mega bucks for the latest camera with more computing power than a Moon-Lander and Auto Mode is disdained ?

Do you have an " Auto " car, or do you use a manual gearbox?................ Which drives the car most effectively ?

Are you in danger of missing the shot while fiddling with the settings ?

Washing machines, computer controlled CNC,...... Micro surgery the list is endless where the computer wins out.

Perhaps in years to come you will be able to program your drone to go to your favourite locations, take the photos

and return them to you to process in PhotoShop,

Coming from a history of manually cocked shutters, flash-bulbs and slow film speeds,graduating eventually to a Zenith SLR

(now that WAS manual) First SLR with TTL metering I am hugely impressed by the programming power and facilities offered

by a modern camera.
We pay mega bucks for the latest camera with more ... (show quote)


I drive a high powered convertible sports car with an automatic seven speed transmission. BUT! It has a manual override, the paddle shifters, when I want more control. Same on the camera. If I'm not sure of quickly changing conditions and I'm afraid to miss a shot I put the camera in Auto or Aperture mode. When I want more control I go full manual. It's good to have Auto but it's also good to have a choice. (and I don't need any snide comments about an old white haired guy with a sports car. I've driven them off and on since I was a college kid. I just love powerful responsive cars. Definitely NOT midlife crisis.)

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Mar 20, 2018 16:26:21   #
toxdoc42
 
I totally agree. But, it is almost too easy to know when the auto mode will fail, backlit subjects, speeding subjects, etc. The auto setting can be the default, but, the photographer has to know when not to trust auto.

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Mar 20, 2018 16:36:36   #
Waltm Loc: Fredericksburg, VA
 
In all this hash of discussion I have probably missed any mention of the UBER self-driven vehicles being removed from service because one of them killed a real person.
Auto is useful sometimes, and so is manual mode.
By the way, I have been an Alfa Romeo driver for more years than I would like to admit to, but in my elder years I drive an automatic transmission car.

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Mar 20, 2018 16:46:05   #
chaman
 
Blaster34 wrote:
The car can, not the Tranny...Tranny responds to the car or drivers input.


If the car suddenly decelerates, among other things, the main computer can send signals to the trans module and in fact change gear.

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Mar 20, 2018 16:55:37   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
chaman wrote:
If the car suddenly decelerates, among other things, the main computer can send signals to the trans module and in fact change gear.


Thank you, the Tranny does respond to the actions of the car (computer, braking, sensors) or driver....Cheers, seriously have a great day, now off to practice some photography techniques I've learned here.

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