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Feb 9, 2018 13:17:24   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado
 
hpucker99 wrote:
Although the horse and buggy industry is gone, it would be interesting to look into the total employment of those involved with that industry (buggy construction, marketing and sales, horse care, feed production, etc.) and compare that with today's automobile industry (production and parts manufacturing, design, sales, marketing, finance, etc.) and see whether there are more people involved today. You would also have to take into account the loss in jobs in the passenger train category.


Good points however I think the airline industry had more to do with the demise of passenger rail than automobiles. When people can get cross country faster than 4 days was their downfall.

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Feb 9, 2018 13:19:12   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
dirtpusher wrote:
Trump Wants an Internet Sales Tax. Conservatives are Furious - Newsweek
Newsweek › trump-wants-intern...


Since when does anyone with a brain believe what Newsweek reports.

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Feb 9, 2018 13:28:46   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
leftj wrote:
Since when does anyone with a brain believe what Newsweek reports.


You do live in denial. Your king did you in.

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Feb 9, 2018 13:34:56   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
dirtpusher wrote:
You do live in denial. Your king did you in.


You live in denial if you don't know that these publications put things out there that have no basis in fact. Someone says something so they report it. Journalism is all partisan slanted and therefore dead.

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Feb 9, 2018 15:15:21   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Lol you really dont

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Feb 9, 2018 15:44:58   #
PeterBergh
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
One has to be an idiot to not understand that everyone benefits from services provided by taxes.


Unfortunately, most of the money we pay in taxes does not go to services. Most of the money is "eaten" by the bureaucracy; only a lesser fraction goes to services. Economically, I believe that we as a country (US) would be better off if we paid directly for the services we need, rather than having federal, state, and local government waste a lot of money.

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Feb 9, 2018 17:18:52   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Jakebrake wrote:
I have been a B&H customer for many years, and the reason being laser fast free shipping and no sales tax. This past week I received a letter from them stating they had notified the state of Colorado of my purchases which amounted to slightly over 3K. Now I know we are supposed to pay the state taxes voluntarily on our purchases from out of state businesses, but I believe not many do, at least I didn't until now. Being a Canon shooter B&H priced those items at list and the savings was in taxes. So, from now on I will make my purchases from my local brick a mortar store which is Mike's Camera in Boulder, Colorado (which is 9 miles away) and not have to deal with this when I file my state taxes. No problemo, and no more waiting around for the big brown truck, but has anyone else received a letter like mine from B&H? I shudder at the though of receiving a letter from Adorama!

This could be the best thing that has happened for local camera stores.
I have been a B&H customer for many years, and... (show quote)


I feel your pain. Since we are just across the river from B&H, they have decided to open a distribution warehouse in NJ. The minute they did that they established themselves in business in New Jersey and by law started taxing me on everything I buy from them. The circumstances may be different here in New Jersey than in Colorado, but the end result is the same. In your case, it sounds like Colorado is aggressively attempting to get all the sales tax they can, and that is likely to mean that you will have a similar issue with other online purchases, like perhaps from Amazon, or LL Bean. or ...!!

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Feb 9, 2018 17:23:12   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado
 
mwsilvers wrote:
I feel your pain. Since we are just across the river from B&H, they have decided to open a distribution warehouse in NJ. The minute they did that they established themselves in business in New Jersey and by law started taxing me on everything I buy from them. The circumstances may be different here in New Jersey than in Colorado, but the end result is the same. In your case, it sounds like Colorado is aggressively attempting to get all the sales tax they can and it is likely to mean that you will have a similar issue with other internet purchases, like perhaps from Amazon.
I feel your pain. Since we are just across the riv... (show quote)


Agreed.. In the near future I think taxes will be collected on all internet purchases.

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Feb 9, 2018 17:30:58   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Thanks to your honorable king

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Feb 9, 2018 17:36:17   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
dirtpusher wrote:
Thanks to your honorable king


I think you’ve got your countries mixed up.

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Feb 9, 2018 19:08:23   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
PeterBergh wrote:
Unfortunately, most of the money we pay in taxes does not go to services. Most of the money is "eaten" by the bureaucracy; only a lesser fraction goes to services. Economically, I believe that we as a country (US) would be better off if we paid directly for the services we need, rather than having federal, state, and local government waste a lot of money.


You give credence to an earlier post.

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Feb 9, 2018 19:44:19   #
Joe Blow
 
Jakebrake wrote:
Holy moly, if Colorado goes back years in my purchase history I'll be bankrupt.


It sucks to be a tax cheat that gets caught. While income taxes may be written off in some bankruptcy cases, any deliberate evasion denies that.

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Feb 9, 2018 19:45:33   #
pendennis
 
johneccles wrote:
I cannot understand what happens with this US purchase tax system, here the UK price shown instore or online is what you pay, there are no extra taxes as that is already included, the only extras could be delivery or insurance, the latter being optional.
It's a very neat system but the standard VAT (Value added Tax) is currently 20% so this usually makes the UK more expensive.


In the U.S., there is no VAT. The U.S. Government collects, income and payroll taxes, e.g.; they also collect tariffs on imported goods. Our sales tax systems are very much a state and local domain

As a means of raising revenue, states, counties, and some cities, have resorted to collecting sales taxes on certain goods. In a lot of locales, food and prescription drugs, sometimes newspapers and magazines, are exempt from sales taxes, and generally services (labor) are exempt. Sales taxes are generally collected on the gross amount of the cash register sales total. For example, a sales tax of 6% would collect $6.00 on $100, and the retailer remits directly to the unit of government levying the tax. This works well for brick and mortar stores, not so much mail order and "etail". The various taxing jurisdictions found out years ago, that people would avoid paying sales taxes from out-of-state companies.

As laws now exist, the state of Michigan can't force Ohio to collect Michigan's 6% sales tax on goods shipped to Michigan. The exceptions are stores which have brick and mortar presences in more than one state. If I ordered something from a store in Ohio, and they had a brick and mortar presence in Michigan, they can, and usually will collect sales tax and remit it to Michigan.

In order to try and collect their sales taxes, the states also levy an identical tax referred to as a "Use Tax" on goods consumed locally, but purchases out of state. States have resorted to an honor system when residents file state returns, to collect the use tax on goods bought out of state and consumed in state. This works, but to a minimal extent. There is little the state can do, if one denies that goods were purchased out of state, but consumed in state.

The several states while "United", are very disjointed when it comes to helping each other when it comes to collecting sales and use taxes.

There is resistance to universal collection of sales taxes. Congress cant interfere with state and local taxes, and maybe turn the collection of sales and use taxes into another Federal bureaucracy. Some states are clamoring for Federal help. There is no mandate in the U.S. Constitution, and even Congress is loath to get involved.

If this sounds complicated, believe me, it is. In my prior life as an accountant, I was a subject matter expert on sales and local taxes, and it's a very complicated matter.

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Feb 9, 2018 21:11:08   #
kpmac Loc: Ragley, La
 
Why are you mad at them for following the law?

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Feb 9, 2018 21:45:59   #
iosa Loc: Fairbanks, AK
 
Yeah! How dare they insist that you help to support your local community! Outrage! Harrumph! Burn everything!

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