Nikon or Canon
Jan 27, 2018 13:02:43 #
dennis2146 wrote:
I would also throw out the Leica DSLR's for consideration. Excellent cameras as well.
Dennis
I wasn't aware Leica makes any with mirrors. I would also throw out the Leica DSLR's for consideration. Excellent cameras as well.
Dennis
Jan 27, 2018 13:05:24 #
Renting both models has been suggested and is a great idea. borrowlenses.com has almost all popular models for rent. If renting isn't practical for you, go to your local retailer or big box store such as Best Buy and handle both cameras. That's often what I do when making a purchasing decision. That doesn't mean you have to buy from them, but all current models are on display.
Jan 27, 2018 13:05:48 #
Angel Star Photography
Loc: Tacoma, WA
Nikonman44 wrote:
Hate to say it but that makes a lot of sense. If you would feel guilty about doing it that way.
Go rent both units for a day or two and then decide. I would not be bothered by Markngolfs idea though
Go rent both units for a day or two and then decide. I would not be bothered by Markngolfs idea though
Great ideas! Most cities have a camera shop that handles many different brands. Walk into one and just try them out. Find one or two that just draws you to it, rent them, and take them out for a test drive. You will be more content with your choice if you have made it with a test drive. My recommendation, too, is to not limit yourself to simply Nikon or Canon. There are others and they will work just as well. As I have stated before, it is how you work with the camera and how the camera fits you that is important. Is a DSLR an absolute requirement? If not, you may want to consider cameras in the micro four-thirds category. These are a bit in between the point-and-shoot and SLR cameras. You can add lenses much like you can a DSLR. A nice feature is that, unlike DSLRs, lenses from other manufacturers can be used without adapters due to the standardization of the products. Just some thoughts for consideration and to expand your options...
Jan 27, 2018 13:09:26 #
rehess wrote:
I wasn't aware Leica makes any with mirrors.
Yes they make DSLR's. The Leica S series.
Jan 27, 2018 13:10:14 #
Long ago I owned a Cannon SLR that I loved but it was stolen. Later, but still many years ago I was looking for a new SLR and auto focus was becoming common. I learned that Nikon had figured out how to make older lenses compatible with newer cameras but Cannon didn't. That led me to pick Nikon. I am now getting back into photography with my first digital SLR. My choice of a newer camera now was determined partly by the ability to use some older auto focus Nikon or compatible lenses I have.
Jan 27, 2018 13:16:51 #
amfoto1
Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
Nikon D5600 or Canon T6i?
Asking a question like that on a forum like this, you are going to get a ton of BIASED answers.....
All the Canon fanboyz an fangirlz will tell you that you'd better buy the Canon. All the Nikon fangirlz and fanboyz will tell you why that's the only brand to consider.
Truth is... they're more similar than they're different and either one is capable of doing a great job for you.
First thing... are you aware that while the Nikon D5600 is their latest model in that series (intro'd Nov. 2016), while the Canon T6i is a generation older (Feb. 2015) and has been superseded by the T7i (intro'd Feb., 2017). In some respects, a more "fair" comparison would be D5600 ($650 body only) versus T7i ($750 body only).... the "latest-and-greatest" of their model line from each manufacturer.
This also illustrates something I've noticed is generally true.... Nikon cameras tend to be slightly less expensive than Canon cameras. However, beyond the initial purchase, Canon lenses and accessories tend to be less expensive than comparable Nikon items. In some cases there's only a little difference, but in others the comparable Canon lenses and accessories are considerably less expensive. So it is important to carefully look beyond the initial camera purchase, at other things you might want in the future. Both manufacturers offer extensive systems that can meet almost any need. Roughly the same as each other, Canon and Nikon each offer double or more selection of lenses than any other camera manufacturer!
All three cameras are 24MP... They all can shoot continuously at similar rate, too: Five frames per second in the D5600 and T6i, 6 frames per second in the T7i. (Note: When shooting highest resolution 14 bit RAW files, the D5600 slows to about four fps. 12 bit RAW and JPEGs can be shot at full 5 fps. Both the Canon maintain their respective frame rates regardless of file type and Canon only shoot 14 bit RAW, don't have an option to reduce the bit depth the way the Nikon do.) The D5600 and T6i appear to have similar size image buffers... can take a burst of 8 or 6 RAW images, respectively, before they need to slow or pause to clear the camera memory. The D5600 can handle more JPEGs... a continuous burst of about 100, versus 40 in the T6i. The T7i's buffer outperforms them both, able to take 24 RAW or 124 JPEG. (Test results from imaging-resource.com.)
All three cameras have articulated, 1 million pixel rear LCD Touch Screens. The Nikon's is slightly larger: 3.2" versus 3" on both the Canon. All three cameras have optical viewfinders that give 95% coverage with .82X magnification, utilizing a "pentamirror" to reduce weight and cost. (More upscale cameras use a true pentaprism, which tends to make for a slightly brighter viewfinder, but adds cost and weight. Many more upscale cameras also offer 100% viewfinders with closer to 1.0X magnification, for a bigger and more complete view.)
The Nikon D5600 has a 39-point autofocus system, with 9 of those point a higher performance "cross" or "dual axis" type. The Canon T6i has a 19-point system, while the T7i's is 45-point. In both the Canon all the points are the higher performance "cross" type. So, while the D5600 has more points than the T6i and less than the T7i, either of the Canon models has more of the high performance type of AF points.
It's important to note that Nikon D5000-series and D3000-series cameras are somewhat limited the lenses they can autofocus. All these Nikon, including the D5600, require AF-S or AF-P lenses, which have focusing motors built into the lens itself, to be able to autofocus. Some lenses lack that and will be manual focus only on these cameras (which can be a bit difficult with a modern DSLR's viewfinder, which mostly lack manual focus assist features and are smaller/less bright than vintage SLRs designed for manual focus). Some Nikkor lenses may not meter properly on the D5000/3000-series models, too. Consult the available lens compatibility charts that can be found on the Nikon USA, Nikonians.org websites and elsewhere online. In use since 1959, the Nikon F-mount has gone through a lot of tweaks and modifications as new features were implemented in cameras. While there's a lot of backward compatibility, there are some important limitations too.
In contrast, Canon T6i or T7i are fully compatible with all Canon EF and EF-S lenses produced since the late 1980s (but there is very limited to no backward compatibility with vintage Canon FL/FD and R-mount lenses).
Though relatively rare, there can be "issues" with third party lens compatibility with either brand. Usually any problem will occur when trying to use an older lens on a newer camera. Contemporary lenses and cameras usually work well and most third party lens manufacturers make comparable selection of lenses for both Canon and Nikon (they tend to make less for Sony/Minolta, Pentax and Olympus).
Maybe you're looking at price.... It may have been superseded, but Canon T6i are still widely available new and are selling for about the same price as Nikon D5600: about $650 for body only. The Canon T7i is selling for approx. $100 more than either of them: $750. They both are often offered in kit with either an 18-55mm (cheaper) or 18-135/18-140mm (more expensive) lens.
Kit lenses can be a really good way to get the most for your money, but you have to be careful. I'd recommend trying to stick with only "official" manufacturer assembled kits, for the large part. Avoid retailer bundled, cheaper third party lenses. But you also need to be wary of the manufacturers' kits...
Sometimes you'll see two-lens kit offered. In addition to one of the above "walk-around" zooms, a telephoto is added. The Nikon is often offered with an AF-P 70-300mm DX and the Canon may be offered with an EF 75-300mm III. Frankly, these suck and are each manufacturers' cheapest and worst zoom lenses. They aren't all that great optically, use slower focus drive mechanisms and both lack image stabilization (which is most helpful on telephoto lenses like these). I don't know about the Nikon (they probably offer similar), but for just a little more money the Canon EF-S 55-250mm IS STM lens is a MUCH better lens than the EF 75-300mm III. It's closer focusing, faster/quieter focusing, has helpful image stabilization and has better image quality. Or, for a bit more $, the Canon EF 70-300mm IS USM "II" is better in all the same respects, plus even faster focusing (and, an EF lens, able to be used on full frame cameras, too).
You mention liking the Canon/Kodak DCS model's ergonomics and that can still sometimes help you make a choice. Though I'm sure you can get accustomed to and learn to use either Nikon or Canon well, it may be easier with one or the other... but don't rely upon your memory of a camera from nearly 20 years ago! Go to a store and check out the current camera models in person. Handle them, play around with the controls, turn them on and navigate around the menus. It might help to download the manuals from the manufacturers' websites in advance and study them a bit first. Maybe you will like one or the other better, or it just seems more comfortable and intuitive to use.... so would find the camera easier to learn to use well. Or maybe not. You won't know, though, unless you actually look at the cameras in person.
Have fun shopping!
P.S. The reason you see crowds of "big white" Canon lenses being used by pros shooting sporting events probably has more to do historically, than current differences between the systems. Canon pioneered multi-point and high performance AF systems, using fluorite in their telephotos, image stabilization, full frame digital and more. All those things made their systems very popular with pros in the past. However, to be completely fair, there is much less difference between Canon and Nikon today. In fact, within the past year Nikon has revised their pro-oriented super telephotos to incorporate fluorite, too... just like Canon has done for decades. The Nikkor FL cost a lot more, though... Nikon's least expensive, their 70-200mm f/2.8 FL costs $2700, while the comparable Canon costs $1900 right now. And Canon is still using fluorite in more lenses, some selling for as little as $600.
I'm sure many of the pros you see on the sidelines at sporting events using Canon have had those lenses for a while and are "invested" in the system, making it difficult to change. We upgrade our cameras fairly often... every 3 to 5 years, maybe some do more often. But we tend to keep our lenses for a lot longer... and when you have accumulated $30,000 to $50,000 worth of lens system, all of which would have to be replaced, it's an expensive proposal to switch brands! But, today Nikon's AF is very comparable and competitive with Nikon... So is their VR image stabilization... So are their durability, weather sealing, full frame camera capability and more.
They both have similar pro-level support too. CPS and NPS are both good now. Canon's consumer-oriented support is probably better, though. Nikon customer service got a lot of bad reviews in the past, but has improved a lot. And Nikon restricts sale of replacement parts to only their own authorized repairers, about 20 shops in the U.S. Canon doesn't do that, so there are literally hundreds of independent shops that can service them, if needed.
If you look at refurbished cameras, lenses and accessories for some savings... In the USA both now sell those directly from their respective websites. Canon has done that for several years. Nikon started doing the same in the last year or so. One difference, Canon refurbs have the same warranty as new: one year. Nikon treats theirs more like used, only offering a 90 day warranty (instead of one year for new). Both sometimes offer extended warranties at times on select items, as an incentive.
Asking a question like that on a forum like this, you are going to get a ton of BIASED answers.....
All the Canon fanboyz an fangirlz will tell you that you'd better buy the Canon. All the Nikon fangirlz and fanboyz will tell you why that's the only brand to consider.
Truth is... they're more similar than they're different and either one is capable of doing a great job for you.
First thing... are you aware that while the Nikon D5600 is their latest model in that series (intro'd Nov. 2016), while the Canon T6i is a generation older (Feb. 2015) and has been superseded by the T7i (intro'd Feb., 2017). In some respects, a more "fair" comparison would be D5600 ($650 body only) versus T7i ($750 body only).... the "latest-and-greatest" of their model line from each manufacturer.
This also illustrates something I've noticed is generally true.... Nikon cameras tend to be slightly less expensive than Canon cameras. However, beyond the initial purchase, Canon lenses and accessories tend to be less expensive than comparable Nikon items. In some cases there's only a little difference, but in others the comparable Canon lenses and accessories are considerably less expensive. So it is important to carefully look beyond the initial camera purchase, at other things you might want in the future. Both manufacturers offer extensive systems that can meet almost any need. Roughly the same as each other, Canon and Nikon each offer double or more selection of lenses than any other camera manufacturer!
All three cameras are 24MP... They all can shoot continuously at similar rate, too: Five frames per second in the D5600 and T6i, 6 frames per second in the T7i. (Note: When shooting highest resolution 14 bit RAW files, the D5600 slows to about four fps. 12 bit RAW and JPEGs can be shot at full 5 fps. Both the Canon maintain their respective frame rates regardless of file type and Canon only shoot 14 bit RAW, don't have an option to reduce the bit depth the way the Nikon do.) The D5600 and T6i appear to have similar size image buffers... can take a burst of 8 or 6 RAW images, respectively, before they need to slow or pause to clear the camera memory. The D5600 can handle more JPEGs... a continuous burst of about 100, versus 40 in the T6i. The T7i's buffer outperforms them both, able to take 24 RAW or 124 JPEG. (Test results from imaging-resource.com.)
All three cameras have articulated, 1 million pixel rear LCD Touch Screens. The Nikon's is slightly larger: 3.2" versus 3" on both the Canon. All three cameras have optical viewfinders that give 95% coverage with .82X magnification, utilizing a "pentamirror" to reduce weight and cost. (More upscale cameras use a true pentaprism, which tends to make for a slightly brighter viewfinder, but adds cost and weight. Many more upscale cameras also offer 100% viewfinders with closer to 1.0X magnification, for a bigger and more complete view.)
The Nikon D5600 has a 39-point autofocus system, with 9 of those point a higher performance "cross" or "dual axis" type. The Canon T6i has a 19-point system, while the T7i's is 45-point. In both the Canon all the points are the higher performance "cross" type. So, while the D5600 has more points than the T6i and less than the T7i, either of the Canon models has more of the high performance type of AF points.
It's important to note that Nikon D5000-series and D3000-series cameras are somewhat limited the lenses they can autofocus. All these Nikon, including the D5600, require AF-S or AF-P lenses, which have focusing motors built into the lens itself, to be able to autofocus. Some lenses lack that and will be manual focus only on these cameras (which can be a bit difficult with a modern DSLR's viewfinder, which mostly lack manual focus assist features and are smaller/less bright than vintage SLRs designed for manual focus). Some Nikkor lenses may not meter properly on the D5000/3000-series models, too. Consult the available lens compatibility charts that can be found on the Nikon USA, Nikonians.org websites and elsewhere online. In use since 1959, the Nikon F-mount has gone through a lot of tweaks and modifications as new features were implemented in cameras. While there's a lot of backward compatibility, there are some important limitations too.
In contrast, Canon T6i or T7i are fully compatible with all Canon EF and EF-S lenses produced since the late 1980s (but there is very limited to no backward compatibility with vintage Canon FL/FD and R-mount lenses).
Though relatively rare, there can be "issues" with third party lens compatibility with either brand. Usually any problem will occur when trying to use an older lens on a newer camera. Contemporary lenses and cameras usually work well and most third party lens manufacturers make comparable selection of lenses for both Canon and Nikon (they tend to make less for Sony/Minolta, Pentax and Olympus).
Maybe you're looking at price.... It may have been superseded, but Canon T6i are still widely available new and are selling for about the same price as Nikon D5600: about $650 for body only. The Canon T7i is selling for approx. $100 more than either of them: $750. They both are often offered in kit with either an 18-55mm (cheaper) or 18-135/18-140mm (more expensive) lens.
Kit lenses can be a really good way to get the most for your money, but you have to be careful. I'd recommend trying to stick with only "official" manufacturer assembled kits, for the large part. Avoid retailer bundled, cheaper third party lenses. But you also need to be wary of the manufacturers' kits...
Sometimes you'll see two-lens kit offered. In addition to one of the above "walk-around" zooms, a telephoto is added. The Nikon is often offered with an AF-P 70-300mm DX and the Canon may be offered with an EF 75-300mm III. Frankly, these suck and are each manufacturers' cheapest and worst zoom lenses. They aren't all that great optically, use slower focus drive mechanisms and both lack image stabilization (which is most helpful on telephoto lenses like these). I don't know about the Nikon (they probably offer similar), but for just a little more money the Canon EF-S 55-250mm IS STM lens is a MUCH better lens than the EF 75-300mm III. It's closer focusing, faster/quieter focusing, has helpful image stabilization and has better image quality. Or, for a bit more $, the Canon EF 70-300mm IS USM "II" is better in all the same respects, plus even faster focusing (and, an EF lens, able to be used on full frame cameras, too).
You mention liking the Canon/Kodak DCS model's ergonomics and that can still sometimes help you make a choice. Though I'm sure you can get accustomed to and learn to use either Nikon or Canon well, it may be easier with one or the other... but don't rely upon your memory of a camera from nearly 20 years ago! Go to a store and check out the current camera models in person. Handle them, play around with the controls, turn them on and navigate around the menus. It might help to download the manuals from the manufacturers' websites in advance and study them a bit first. Maybe you will like one or the other better, or it just seems more comfortable and intuitive to use.... so would find the camera easier to learn to use well. Or maybe not. You won't know, though, unless you actually look at the cameras in person.
Have fun shopping!
P.S. The reason you see crowds of "big white" Canon lenses being used by pros shooting sporting events probably has more to do historically, than current differences between the systems. Canon pioneered multi-point and high performance AF systems, using fluorite in their telephotos, image stabilization, full frame digital and more. All those things made their systems very popular with pros in the past. However, to be completely fair, there is much less difference between Canon and Nikon today. In fact, within the past year Nikon has revised their pro-oriented super telephotos to incorporate fluorite, too... just like Canon has done for decades. The Nikkor FL cost a lot more, though... Nikon's least expensive, their 70-200mm f/2.8 FL costs $2700, while the comparable Canon costs $1900 right now. And Canon is still using fluorite in more lenses, some selling for as little as $600.
I'm sure many of the pros you see on the sidelines at sporting events using Canon have had those lenses for a while and are "invested" in the system, making it difficult to change. We upgrade our cameras fairly often... every 3 to 5 years, maybe some do more often. But we tend to keep our lenses for a lot longer... and when you have accumulated $30,000 to $50,000 worth of lens system, all of which would have to be replaced, it's an expensive proposal to switch brands! But, today Nikon's AF is very comparable and competitive with Nikon... So is their VR image stabilization... So are their durability, weather sealing, full frame camera capability and more.
They both have similar pro-level support too. CPS and NPS are both good now. Canon's consumer-oriented support is probably better, though. Nikon customer service got a lot of bad reviews in the past, but has improved a lot. And Nikon restricts sale of replacement parts to only their own authorized repairers, about 20 shops in the U.S. Canon doesn't do that, so there are literally hundreds of independent shops that can service them, if needed.
If you look at refurbished cameras, lenses and accessories for some savings... In the USA both now sell those directly from their respective websites. Canon has done that for several years. Nikon started doing the same in the last year or so. One difference, Canon refurbs have the same warranty as new: one year. Nikon treats theirs more like used, only offering a 90 day warranty (instead of one year for new). Both sometimes offer extended warranties at times on select items, as an incentive.
Jan 27, 2018 13:24:13 #
GED
Loc: North central Pa
GreenReaper wrote:
I’m probably going to open a can of worms (again),... (show quote)
Both companies make excellent equipment, each has it's pros and cons with some of that based on the individual using it. With proper technique either will produce the highest quality images if using quality lenses. I have used Nikon equipment since the 70's and have been happy with the quality work it will produce as well as the support from Nikon when needed. One issue that was important to me was the ability to use any Nikon lenses I already owned on the latest model cameras I would purchase. Engineering for non obsolescence is an important factor to me.
Jan 27, 2018 13:31:43 #
As a retailer I also believe trying and returning from multiple vendors is an end to all our resources.
What a USER !
What a USER !
Jan 27, 2018 13:35:28 #
All of the endless "stuff" aside, take some same pics with each and compare. You may find one has more of a "dimension" to the look. I wont say which, but give it a try.
Jan 27, 2018 13:58:49 #
First Step: Narrow things down by the specs you want, not by brand. Second Step: Handle the cameras that pass step 1 and see which you prefer in hand. Step Three: Buy the winner in step 2.
Jan 27, 2018 14:12:05 #
amfoto1
Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
JMCPHD wrote:
...I learned that Nikon had figured out how to make older lenses compatible with newer cameras but Cannon didn't. That led me to pick Nikon....
Yeah, but that was 30 years ago! And Nikon only "sort of" figured it out.
Canon made a complete break from their older system in the late 1980s. When they saw autofocus was the future, they designed the new EOS/EF mount to accommodate the electronics expected to be required by future innovations. The downside to this at the time was that the old, mechanical, manual focus FL/FD system was orphaned. Pissed off a lot of people and cost Canon customer. But the upside was that the new mount could accommodate many other system's manual focus lenses (including many Nikkors), via inexpensive adapters. And within 10 years the superiority of the EOS/EF mount with auotofocus, aperture control, image stabilization, flash/focus distance communication and more had proven so superior that the Canon system became the top seller worldwide and the overwhelming choice of pros. The transition to digital further amplified this. Canon continued to be highly innovative doing things like as making their own sensors, while Nikon bought theirs from Kodak and now from Sony. This allowed Canon a lot more flexibility to develop full frame and, for a while, APS-H format in addition to APS-C. Canon also was the first to offer HD video in a DSLR, in the 5D Mark II (many of which are still in wide use in Hollywood and elsewhere). Canon still holds the #1 position today, though not by as large a margin because Nikon has largely caught up with Canon.... and Sony (formerly Konica-Minolta) has made some inroads on both of them and been pretty innovative, too.
Nikon took a different path... They have used the same basic F-mount on all their SLRs and Nikkors since 1959. However, as new innovations were incorporated into the cameras, they had to "tweak" the lenses to make them work. First it were pre-Ai... then there were Ai and Ai conversions to allow the lenses to meter properly... then it was Ai-S, for further improvement of metering and auto exposure. Then there were AF and AF-D. Then AF-S and AF-I. Not to mention G, D and E. There are LOTS of compatibility issues between Nikon cameras and lenses over the years.
For more info, Ken Rockwell does a pretty good job explaining at http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/compatibility-lens.htm#afp
When shopping, be sure to check lens/camera compatibility at Nikon USA... https://www.nikonusa.com/Images/Learn-Explore/Photography-Techniques/2011/Which-Nikkor-is-Right-for-You/Media/NIKKOR-lens-compatibility-chart.pdf
And... https://www.nikonimgsupport.com/na/NSG_article?articleNo=000026574&configured=1&lang=en_SG
And at Nikonians.org... https://www.nikonians.org/reviews/nikon-slr-camera-and-lens-compatibility
Or elsewhere... http://lenshero.com/nikon-lens-compatibility
In contrast... Every Canon EF and EF-S lens made the last 30 years is fully compatible and usable on a T6i or T7i, such as the original poster is considering (as well as all the other Canon APS-C models).
In fact... aside from EF lenses that full frame/film and APS-H Canon require (EF-S lenses designed for crop cameras won't mount)... or really early APS-C DSLRs (10D, D60, D30 that pre-dated the introduction of EF-S lenses)... ALL Canon APS-C DSLRs can fully utilize ALL 125 million+ EF and EF-S lenses made the past 30 years. There are no compatibility issues. Reference charts aren't needed.
PLUS via simple and inexpensive glassless adapters old, manual Nikkors (Olympus OM Zuikos... and Leica R... and Pentax M42 screw and Pentax P/K bayonet Takumars... and more) can be used on the Canon EOS/EF cameras too. See http://bobatkins.com/photography/eosfaq/manual_focus_EOS.html The same cannot be said of Nikon... they're mostly only able to accommodate Nikon mount lenses (though there are a lot of those, too).
JMCPHD wrote:
...My choice of a newer camera now was determined partly by the ability to use some older auto focus Nikon or compatible lenses I have...
GED wrote:
...One issue that was important to me was the ability to use any Nikon lenses I already owned on the latest model cameras I would purchase. Engineering for non obsolescence is an important factor to me.
Except that those older AF Nikkors ARE NOT able to autofocus with D5600, such as the original poster is asking about. You need to purchase a D7200, D7500 or D500 to use them. AF Nikkors do not have a focusing motor in the lens itself, so in order to autofocus they rely upon a focusing motor built into the camera body. Only the D7000-series and higher Nikon bodies have that. The D3000/5000-series cameras don't, so are only able to autofocus AF-S and AF-P lenses that have a motor in the lens itself. There also can be metering/auto exposure issues with some of the older lenses on the newer cameras. So, again, check the compatibility charts.
Conversely, the new AF-P lenses (intro'd in 2016) are limited on some of the not-much-earlier DSLRs: D3200, D5200 D7100 cannot turn off the VR. D7200, D3300, D5300 can but require a firmware update. Manual focus override isn't available on earlier models, either. Also focus won't be maintained if camera goes into sleep mode and a "Lens not attached" or other warning may display under certain conditions.
Non-obsolescence? Well, it depends!
Jan 27, 2018 14:56:54 #
Mac wrote:
Both are good cameras. If you were to use the "Search" function at the top of the page, you would find a multitude of discussions on this subject.
So true, and the worms are dead.
Jan 27, 2018 15:57:29 #
Rent each one to get a feel for them. While all the people who have contributed their opinions make great points, if you rent them you can try out the features of each and coupled with what your have learned here, make a more informed decision. Bottom line, you can't go wrong either way. Best of luck.
Jan 27, 2018 16:08:05 #
I'm impressed with your posting. Do you just come by this naturally or did you spend time researching all this out?
Jan 27, 2018 16:43:11 #
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