My A6000 creates raw files in "ARW" format but your screen shot shows DNG in LR. How are you getting the DNG file? Could that conversion be adding an initial profile for LR to use?
tinplater wrote:
It is almost as if the JPEG is the RAW and the RAW is JPEG. Attached are a pair, straight from camera. Any thoughts????
You have a preset in the import module that is being applied to all images, Under Apply During Import\Develop Settings, is anything selected other than None?
My suggestion was also to see if the camera was applying changes to the RAW files.
I have noticed the same thing, but only with my Sony cameras. The raw files all load into Lightroom fully processed. All of my Nikon files are truly raw. They are flat and need plenty of sharpening. I always get better results with the Nikon files.
rehess wrote:
I asked for two reasons
(1) I noticed you had a DNG file
(2) Sony, Fuji, and Pentax are rumored to process even their "raw" files - my wife calls them "rare" - which would explain why they do so much better than others on tests involving noise, but I wasn't aware they would communicate what they'd done to LightRoon.
somehow you are converting your sony raw images to dng how are you doing that? within lightroom during import? or a separate process? Could this be where the change is occurring? I shoot with Sony cameras in raw only and have never had a problem where the raw file is processed unless I use an import preset....
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
lloydl2 wrote:
somehow you are converting your sony raw images to dng how are you doing that? within lightroom during import? or a separate process? Could this be where the change is occurring? I shoot with Sony cameras in raw only and have never had a problem where the raw file is processed unless I use an import preset....
Are you addressing this to the OP?
rehess wrote:
Are you addressing this to the OP?
yes building on what you posted...
tinplater wrote:
There must be an obvious explanation that I am missing, but I'm totally unable to have my RAW files imported unaltered, whereas my JPEG come in without enhancements! I have checked everything, no presets, auto tone, or anything else active, but when I import an image pair (shooting RAW plus JPEG) the RAW image has obvious manipulation as you can see in the two comparison screen shots. It is almost as if the JPEG is the RAW and the RAW is JPEG. Attached are a pair, straight from camera. Any thoughts????
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I looked through the replies to your query and was looking for an answer which addressed my question. My question was what camera generates a RAW file as DNG. Because I don't know of any. Your LR raw image was clearly Identified as a DNG file. Which I believe is a process you can use when LR will not accept your camera's native RAW file format. like my Old version of LR will not accept my ORF files (there is no patch) so to process my camera files I either have to upgrade my version of LR or I can import my ORF files into PS elements which it will accept and do an conversion to DNG format and then I can read the file into My Old version of LR.... now when I do this my imported files to PS elements can be imported with some enhancements incorporated and if I Just save that out as a DNG file to send to LR the enhancements stay with the saved DNG. If I look through my images either Nikon or Olympus In any software that will import the native RAW format and have generated both raw and jpg in camera there is no difference in the visual appearance of the Raw vs Jpg. The only difference is in my editing options. So somewhere in you workflow there seems to be a step that is not clearly identified and presents a DNG formatted file in LR... Maybe your version of LR has a converter which is handling your camera RAW format and doing a DNG conversion.
Anyway, I would start there to address you original question. GOOD LUCK.
You NEVER actually see a RAW file, what you are looking at is a preview generated on import.
Mimimally, there is always a camera profile applied.
DanCulleton wrote:
You NEVER actually see a RAW file, what you are looking at is a preview generated on import.
Mimimally, there is always a camera profile applied.
EXACTLY.. Unless you are doing some processing in camera or in the work flow process which effects only the RAW file the viewed images should look the same.
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
frankie c wrote:
I looked through the replies to your query and was looking for an answer which addressed my question. My question was what camera generates a RAW file as DNG. Because I don't know of any.
Just to address this concern, I will mention that Pentax cameras
can generate DNG files as the "raw" format created by the camera.
Thanks for the input and help. To answer many, lightroom converts the RAW files to DNG on import (you select copy to DNG). It was one of the reasons I upgraded from LR5 to 6. Withlight room 5 I had to use Adobe raw converter to change to DNG for my then new Sony A7rII.
I actually just did a reset of my A7rII, no change EXCEPT now the DNG file has the wrong lens applied in the data file!!!! I believe all of this is just to let me know I should not be shooting RAW!
In rechecking with my A6000 I believe those files are imported correctly...the RAW files are "flat" compared to JPEG, and all the sliders are at zero on the RAW (DNG) files. This is all very maddening! Additional note: Importing as "copy" rather than as DNG still results in adjustments to the raw image with the sliders moved when viewed in the develop module.
CONCLUSION: This appears to be a camera specific alteration performed by lightroom6. A member has offered to take my raw images, out of camera, and load in his computer and see what happens.
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
You have a preset in the import module that is being applied to all images, Under Apply During Import\Develop Settings, is anything selected other than None?
No, I don't have a preset import module selected. "None" has been present for all the imports.
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