BebuLamar wrote:
Providing the settings on your camera isn't useful. Telling how you arrive at such a setting is.
Take the example of Ansel Adams when he talked about Moonrise. If he only said that he made the shot at f/32, 1 Second and ISO 64 isn't useful. But read this link you would see that it's useful when he told us how he arrived at that setting.
http://anseladams.com/ansel-adams-anecdotes/You make a good point. I laughed when he said he didn’t have his meter. That happened to me just yesterday. I went to hunt up herons but found none. In this particular setting I always (at least I thought) use an ancient LunaPro in incident mode. Lo & behold I left it home. So, had to meter with camera & look at histograms. Ugh. Plus no herons. Only geese & ducks. Thanks for the giggle.
For those who really want to learn, it is better to post your own pictures with the data and ask for a critique. There is a critique section just for that. Gathering information from others has little value compared to learning from what you do and how to improve.
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rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
I'm not looking at exposure. I'm looking at noise, stopping motion, and DOF. I learn from what others do in those areas
nikonbug wrote:
I always like to see Regis's handheld photos. With a almost $4K camera and a 800mm lens. Steadier hands could not be made to shoot handheld as she does and her shots are fabulous. So, I don't have anything that she has, but I can always dream!!!
If you're talking about the Regis who is a uhh member and who shoots a lot of eagle shots with a Canon 5dsr, he might not appreciate being referred to as a female.
rmalarz wrote:
A response to another post I submitted led me to this question. One of the folks who replied to the other post opined that the print is the final product and all that matters. I tend to agree.
So, let’s consider the posts within the gallery, or other sections that contain photographs, the final product. Why are so many insistent on listing the camera, lens, settings, etc.?
I can understand if it were a tutorial based solely on a particular camera, a particular setting, etc. However, those photographs are not. The photographs presented are for show and not lessons. So, why the insistence?
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Because smart inquisitive people CAN and should learn something from it - at which case it winds up being a lesson ! Others can ignore it and live happily ever-after
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CHG_CANON wrote:
First off: any "photographer" in 2018 worthy of the title has software installed on their computer(s) to read the EXIF ... Most everyone spending time listing out the data available in the EXIF hasn't yet earned their photographer card for 2018 ...
Second, you know full well this site is more of a social site with a focus (mostly) on photography. Judging the performance of the general crowd is not a way to judge a photographer ... see 1st point as a reminder, as needed.
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Try this on for size: if a guy wants to list his EXIF data, he's entitled. Is he
hurting anyone? No. If you don't want to list it, you're entitled. Are you hurting
anyone? No, unless you insult another poster for making a decision different
from yours. If only we had fewer members who were the self-appointed
world's greatest experts on all things photographic. As far as decisions
about what data to publish here or elsewhere, ever hear the expression,
"It's a free country?" OR "To each his own?" OR "Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder?"
There's a good reason why these phrases have stood the test of time. Get a clue. >Alan
CHG_CANON wrote:
First off: any "photographer" in 2018 worthy of the title has software installed on their computer(s) to read the EXIF ... Most everyone spending time listing out the data available in the EXIF hasn't yet earned their photographer card for 2018 ...
I don't ......and do - not "worthy" I guess .....
imagemeister wrote:
I don't ......and do - not "worthy" I guess .....
I don't really give a damn if you know where your EXIF data is.
If you do know where it is, I don't really give a damn whether or not you know what it is!
I know that you do some excellent work with your camera AND that you share it with us.
You not only talk the talk, you also walk the walk!
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First, I doubt people who post insist on posting the data described by the OP. This is a site to discuss many aspects of photography, not just how a finished product looks. Even the manufacturers post the same data in their ads more often than not. Personally I enjoy seeing that information.
So, what's wrong with listing the info? If someone does not have an interest in it, don't read it. Some of us starting out learn from seeing the info with the posted photo.
Some times the OP is asked what camera, what lens, what settings, etc.
Guess the OP is just trying to answer the questions before it is asked.
Don
Darkroom317 wrote:
Documentaries, interviews and books are far more useful. In Adams' The Making of 40 Photographs, he mentions settings sometimes but mostly it is about what he was doing and how he felt while making the photographs. Artist Statements are very useful when it comes to more contemporary artists.
Settings can be learned from books and experimentation. However, camera settings are not the essence of photography.
Learning craft (technique,such as tools, settings) are a part of Photography, but like any art, there's the intangibles. Settings (and tools, generally) are the essence of craft,but not necessarily art. In the end the "essence of Photography" as an art is the artists' interpretation of light. (this holds true for the painter too.), The art part cannot be quantified. However, the craft aspect can. One does need to learn the craft in order to project their art. With that, seeing what focal length,ISO,shutter speed and aperture have been used ARE useful for honing one's craft. Once an artist has a "feel" for the craft, they can then explore their art.
As I said way back, don't look at the picture info if you don't want. I do because I find it interesting on hoe they approached the picture. Did the get close with a wide lens at f11 or moved back with a longer lens at f22. If its a good picture I can learn from them( a bad one can also tell you something).
Do your thing and enjoy your life. Don't look at the data and enjoy your life. Happy new year and have fun with photography your way.
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