Inspired by a Reply to Another Post
Dec 29, 2017 12:22:37 #
Picture Taker
Loc: Michigan Thumb
You know if they put no data. you just don't know. If they put the data you don't have to read it. I like to read it.\.
Dec 29, 2017 12:26:54 #
Rongnongno wrote:
But according to the rules for the Gallery - the store original box should only be "checked for panoramas or when you absolutely need to show a high resolution image." So those who don't check store original are the ones who are doing it correctly.Wow! 6 pages.
One small comment... If (IF) the image has posted correctly ~ Upload original checked ~ the image EXIF has all the information, so why not use that? Sometime you even find the GPS as to where this was taken...
To learn, one also has to do very little, right click on this case but then again, in the gallery few use the upload feature.
One small comment... If (IF) the image has posted correctly ~ Upload original checked ~ the image EXIF has all the information, so why not use that? Sometime you even find the GPS as to where this was taken...
To learn, one also has to do very little, right click on this case but then again, in the gallery few use the upload feature.
Dec 29, 2017 12:37:14 #
rplain1 wrote:
But according to the rules for the Gallery - the store original box should only be "checked for panoramas or when you absolutely need to show a high resolution image." So those who don't check store original are the ones who are doing it correctly.
That was the rule in the beginning to save bandwidth, server space etc. but so many people want to see a larger download that many pretty much ignore that part now.
I know I prefer to have a download on images I want a better look at. Having been near sighted since birth and now 72 I find that when looking at pictures - the bigger, the better. My 27" monitor is getting smaller, what sales do they have going on good quality 32"? (Or will that be too small soon?)
Dec 29, 2017 12:42:14 #
As an ongoing student the craft, I am very much interested in the technical particulars of certain photographs that obviously required more than an automatic camera setting. For example, a night photograph of a barn where the photographer used a long exposure to show the Milky Way but also illuminated the building with a flashlight for a few seconds during the overall exposure. I appreciate it when the poster describes the settings and technique.
Dec 29, 2017 12:43:55 #
BebuLamar wrote:
OK - let's look at a specific example ... several years ago I noticed that photographs taken at the NCAA national Finals by real professionals, not the special people here, still had the EXIF data attached; they had used ISO 5000, which allowed them to use a smaller aperture to get a deeper DOF while still using a higher shutter speed to catch the action. I didn't need to know exactly how bright the arena was - ever since then, when someone has asked here about photographing sports indoors, I have recommended a new expensive, but reusable-for-other-purposes, camera body, while everyone else is recommending a new very expensive, one-use-to-him, lens.How do you know how bright the scene was? You know which ISO, aperture and shutter speed used but how do you know how bright the scene was?
Actually you can but if you can figure out exactly how bright the scene was you don't need to learn from the EXIF data.
Actually you can but if you can figure out exactly how bright the scene was you don't need to learn from the EXIF data.
Dec 29, 2017 13:16:31 #
I beg to differ. You can learn from it.
BebuLamar wrote:
I don't think the information is a secret but rather they are useless. You can't learn from those information at all.
Dec 29, 2017 13:20:15 #
joegim
Loc: Long Island, NY
kpmac wrote:
The point of asking those questions is to learn. If a particular lens is better than another or designed for a certain purpose which enhances that type of photo, the question is valid. I am often curious as to settings used for certain images. I have learned much by observing how others do things. Is that not how we learn? If you are not interested in this data simply ignore it. Others likely will appreciate it.
Dec 29, 2017 13:35:57 #
This is strickly a Hobbyist site, not to say professionals don't reside here. That said it's generally the hobbyist that ask for settings not realizing it will do little to help them in the field. Of coarse there is exceptions to this but generally the info is of little help. It's about the light, the subject and the affect the photographed wanted at the time of capture. I continuously change my settings thru out the day or for whatever affect I'm after.
Dec 29, 2017 13:43:09 #
Most of us newbies can use all the help they can get. The old pros are free to disregard.
Dec 29, 2017 13:46:53 #
Dec 29, 2017 13:56:41 #
UTMike wrote:
Most of us newbies can use all the help they can get. The old pros are free to disregard.
Unfortunately since the numbers you are talking about may have little or no bearing on the image you are seeing on the screen, you won't know for sure if you are being helped or hurt.
If they had a section for SOOC images you would have a better chance of being helped. In fact, those that want to learn from the settings others are using might want to approach the Admin about it. We already have a post-processing section.
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Dec 29, 2017 14:06:30 #
rmalarz wrote:
A response to another post I submitted led me to t... (show quote)
Generally speaking, the specific camera, lens, and exposure settings are irrelevant. But this forum is populated by hardware geeks and newbies that have misplaced interest.
When I see a photo I like, I want to know where and when it was taken, what lighting other than natural was used, and what processing was done to the image. And were there exceptional means taken to obtain the image. None of this (except time) can be determined from EXIF data.
Dec 29, 2017 14:08:29 #
jeep_daddy wrote:
I beg to differ. You can learn from it.
What do you learn from the EXIF data? You can use the same settings yet they won't produce the same results.
Dec 29, 2017 14:12:05 #
BebuLamar wrote:
I don't think the information is a secret but rather they are useless. You can't learn from those information at all.
Useless? Maybe to a 'Pro' or well seasoned photographer.
I have taken classes on photography, and feel that it was always necessary to take note of the exposure settings of the other students images.
The teacher pointed out the exposure time in this shot, I turned in, in order to "teach" the other students the affects of a long exposure time.
Marion
Dec 29, 2017 14:18:13 #
BebuLamar wrote:
What do you learn from the EXIF data? You can use the same settings yet they won't produce the same results.
I've already answered that question. The exact values are not as important as the tendencies are. A smart person can learn from patterns and general actions.
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