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Jul 15, 2012 14:38:25   #
pigpen
 
I love how you people keep bringing up "fixed" news, when every other station is, and has been "fixed" to the left. When Limbaugh started , he was the ONLY conservative voice in the media. Now your just pissed because he gets more listeners than all the commie stations combined.

I just saw a clip last week of the "unbiased" Diane Sawyer. She was introducing a story about a banker who noticed a mallard duck had hatched eggs out on a ledge in the city. The video showed the banker out on the sidewalk catching each duckling as it blinded followed their mother off the ledge. She said, "leave it to a banker to be on the look out for a "bailout"." She can't even do a simple "human interest", or "feel good" piece with out letting her leftist views get into the story.

So keep your crap to yourself about what you think is biased or unbiased media!! What you call news is nothing more than cleverly disguised propaganda. BamBam's campaign should be giving money to these "news" agencies, because they are nothing more than ads for his re-election.

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Jul 15, 2012 14:52:05   #
jolly1
 
pigpen wrote:
I love how you people keep bringing up "fixed" news, when every other station is, and has been "fixed" to the left. When Limbaugh started , he was the ONLY conservative voice in the media. Now your just pissed because he gets more listeners than all the commie stations combined.

I just saw a clip last week of the "unbiased" Diane Sawyer. She was introducing a story about a banker who noticed a mallard duck had hatched eggs out on a ledge in the city. The video showed the banker out on the sidewalk catching each duckling as it blinded followed their mother off the ledge. She said, "leave it to a banker to be on the look out for a "bailout"." She can't even do a simple "human interest", or "feel good" piece with out letting her leftist views get into the story.

So keep your crap to yourself about what you think is biased or unbiased media!! What you call news is nothing more than cleverly disguised propaganda. BamBam's campaign should be giving money to these "news" agencies, because they are nothing more than ads for his re-election.
I love how you people keep bringing up "fixed... (show quote)



How True, how true it is!

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Jul 15, 2012 16:21:14   #
ted45 Loc: Delaware
 
PNagy wrote:
"They wanted so much to believe Barack Obama was somehow better and different from other ultra-leftists that they simply took him on faith."

If Obama is so ultra left, why have ultra right corporations like Goldman Sachs rushed to invest heavily in his campaigns? Why did he phase out only one of Bush's wars, while escalating the other? Why was his creature, Roger Altman one of the primary architects of the TARP law of 2008? Why did he only promise, then renege on at least a government option in health care? Why did he break his promise to repeal the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy?

So long as right wing corporations bankroll major political candidates, they can be no more left wing than the media, which is owned exclusively by far right corporations and individuals. Characterizing either as left wing is Fixed News/Limbaugh campaign rhetoric, but not connected with reality.
"They wanted so much to believe Barack Obama ... (show quote)


You pinpointed the problem. Obama says one thing and then does the opposite. He wants to punish the rich but he is one of the rich. He wants to punish big corporations but then he courts them for contributions to his campaign chest. He called Bush "unpatriotic" for letting the gas prices rise, but we are paying more now with out a peep from the White House. The man has demonstrated a total lack of integrity.

As far as the so-called "Bush" wars and tax-cuts go. Why is a tax-cut a bad thing? The Congress was run, both houses, entirely by the Democrats from Jan 2007 until the 2010 elections. The evil tax-cuts, wars, bail-outs, etc were all put into place by a Democratic run congress.

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Jul 15, 2012 16:29:38   #
PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas
 
jolly1 wrote:
DEBJENROB wrote:
Many of you use the term socialism as if it were some great evil ..... do you really understand the nature of our political and economic structure .... like Larry Kudlow, .who rails against government intervention in the free market .... but is noticeable absent from critism of farm supports, bank bailouts .... you avocate for the free market untill it fails ... then blame the government for not doing more ..... we do not live nor have we ever lived in a theoritical capitalist society .... get over it ... our political and economic organization is closer to socialism than capitalism ..... we live in an INTERVENTIONIST political and economic society ..... and most of you would not change it ..... Social Security and Medicare is socialism .... what else would you call it .... auto safety standards are not a free market concept .... its government intervention .... in a free market or pure capitialist society ... you children would be working in a shirt factory or making sneakers for $ 1 a day .... get over it .... we want socialism when it suits our needs .... and as society gets more complex and the disparity betwen rich and poor grows .... we will need more government activeism ....
Many of you use the term socialism as if it were s... (show quote)



Oh yes, National Socialism did great things for Germany. Let's see now, how many people did it cause the death of? How many cities were destroyed? How many nations were destroyed. Oh yeah, socialism is really great. And we have just the president to recreate it all, if he is allowed to return to office. A vote for Herr Adolph Obama is a vote for the destruction of this nation as we know it. And possibly some other nations too.
quote=DEBJENROB Many of you use the term socialis... (show quote)


Interesting study in failed logic, which goes as follows:

1. All forms of socialism are alike.

2. National Socialism was bad.

3. Therefore all socialism is bad.

Ergo:

1. All forms of monarchy are alike.

2. The German monarchy under the Hohenzollern Dynasty was bad.

3. All monarchy is bad. Sorry, Hungary under Stephen I; you're condemned, too.

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Jul 15, 2012 16:35:43   #
DEBJENROB Loc: DELRAY BEACH FL
 
jolly1 wrote:
DEBJENROB wrote:
Many of you use the term socialism as if it were some great evil ..... do you really understand the nature of our political and economic structure .... like Larry Kudlow, .who rails against government intervention in the free market .... but is noticeable absent from critism of farm supports, bank bailouts .... you avocate for the free market untill it fails ... then blame the government for not doing more ..... we do not live nor have we ever lived in a theoritical capitalist society .... get over it ... our political and economic organization is closer to socialism than capitalism ..... we live in an INTERVENTIONIST political and economic society ..... and most of you would not change it ..... Social Security and Medicare is socialism .... what else would you call it .... auto safety standards are not a free market concept .... its government intervention .... in a free market or pure capitialist society ... you children would be working in a shirt factory or making sneakers for $ 1 a day .... get over it .... we want socialism when it suits our needs .... and as society gets more complex and the disparity betwen rich and poor grows .... we will need more government activeism ....
Many of you use the term socialism as if it were s... (show quote)



Oh yes, National Socialism did great things for Germany. Let's see now, how many people did it cause the death of? How many cities were destroyed? How many nations were destroyed. Oh yeah, socialism is really great. And we have just the president to recreate it all, if he is allowed to return to office. A vote for Herr Adolph Obama is a vote for the destruction of this nation as we know it. And possibly some other nations too.
quote=DEBJENROB Many of you use the term socialis... (show quote)


You have no idea as to what socialism is .... Hitlers, National Socialism was not a party that advocated socialism .... they used the word only .... I can understand where you would get the idea that Hitler was a socialist .... in fact ... if you want to use one of the three traditional economic types studied in secondary education .... National Socialism was closer to fascism .... please don't confuse National Socialism with economic socialism .....

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Jul 15, 2012 16:37:02   #
Dusty
 
I do not know what President Obama has done that is so bad for this country.
I'll bet all you R's are still rich and can do anything you wish to do. Your freedom has not be taken away from you at all.
Bush could bomb and kill people all over the world and kill our soliders and wound them for the rest of there life. And how much money do you think that is going to cost. Wake up.

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Jul 15, 2012 16:43:03   #
DEBJENROB Loc: DELRAY BEACH FL
 
jolly1 wrote:
pigpen wrote:
I love how you people keep bringing up "fixed" news, when every other station is, and has been "fixed" to the left. When Limbaugh started , he was the ONLY conservative voice in the media. Now your just pissed because he gets more listeners than all the commie stations combined.

I just saw a clip last week of the "unbiased" Diane Sawyer. She was introducing a story about a banker who noticed a mallard duck had hatched eggs out on a ledge in the city. The video showed the banker out on the sidewalk catching each duckling as it blinded followed their mother off the ledge. She said, "leave it to a banker to be on the look out for a "bailout"." She can't even do a simple "human interest", or "feel good" piece with out letting her leftist views get into the story.

So keep your crap to yourself about what you think is biased or unbiased media!! What you call news is nothing more than cleverly disguised propaganda. BamBam's campaign should be giving money to these "news" agencies, because they are nothing more than ads for his re-election.
I love how you people keep bringing up "fixed... (show quote)



How True, how true it is!
quote=pigpen I love how you people keep bringing ... (show quote)


I guess you missed the part where Diane Sawyer is a Republican and worked for Richard Nixon .... and has been active in Republican politics since college ....

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Jul 15, 2012 17:05:46   #
Sneidley Loc: Goodyear, AZ
 
wrr wrote:
BigBear wrote:
He's smart. He's smart enough how to destroy a country and smart enough to get in position to.


In 2017, after four more years, you're going to look back at this statement and realize how foolish you sound, how mistaken you were and just how far astray your right-wing handlers have led you.


That's possible. I just don't want to find out you are wrong.

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Jul 15, 2012 18:24:03   #
azphotobug Loc: Scottsdale, Arizona
 
Frank T,
Hear, hear! You are so right about Ben Stein.

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Jul 15, 2012 20:05:47   #
jolly1
 
Yep, you're right. All socialism is bad. Look at what Obama's brand of it is doing to the United States right now.

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Jul 15, 2012 20:45:14   #
PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas
 
"I love how you people keep bringing up "fixed" news, when every other station is, and has been "fixed" to the left..."

Your comment underscores a lesson I have failed to teach any of you, despite having repeatedly tried. Please take a look at the majority and/or controlling owners of all the most important media outlets. You will find names like General Electric, Disney, Viacom, Ruppert Murdoch. All of these are far right plutocratic corporations/individuals. Are you trying to tell me yet again with a straight face that such parties will do all they can to gain ownership of television, radio, cable, etc, only to allow some ordinary reporters to hijack the coveted property for their own editorial imperatives? With all due respect, sir, that is absolute nonsense.

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Jul 15, 2012 20:47:56   #
DennisK Loc: Pickle City,Illinois
 
PNagy wrote:
"I love how you people keep bringing up "fixed" news, when every other station is, and has been "fixed" to the left..."

Your comment underscores a lesson I have failed to teach any of you, despite having repeatedly tried. Please take a look at the majority and/or controlling owners of all the most important media outlets. You will find names like General Electric, Disney, Viacom, Ruppert Murdoch. All of these are far right plutocratic corporations/individuals. Are you trying to tell me yet again with a straight face that such parties will do all they can to gain ownership of television, radio, cable, etc, only to allow some ordinary reporters to hijack the coveted property for their own editorial imperatives? With all due respect, sir, that is absolute nonsense.
"I love how you people keep bringing up "... (show quote)


Disney is right wing? You must be joking.

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Jul 15, 2012 20:51:16   #
PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas
 
jolly1 wrote:
Yep, you're right. All socialism is bad. Look at what Obama's brand of it is doing to the United States right now.


Obama a socialist? That is right wing lunacy. Obama is a mainstream bankrolled by major corporations. His number one corporate donor in 2008 was Goldman Sachs. Would a greed, thieving right ing organization such as that give large sums of money to a politician who is betraying them? It might help if you used some reason instead of accepting conclusions handed to you by the GOP, Fixed News, and Rush Limburger.

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Jul 15, 2012 21:05:51   #
ted45 Loc: Delaware
 
PNagy wrote:
jolly1 wrote:
Yep, you're right. All socialism is bad. Look at what Obama's brand of it is doing to the United States right now.


Obama a socialist? That is right wing lunacy. Obama is a mainstream bankrolled by major corporations. His number one corporate donor in 2008 was Goldman Sachs. Would a greed, thieving right ing organization such as that give large sums of money to a politician who is betraying them? It might help if you used some reason instead of accepting conclusions handed to you by the GOP, Fixed News, and Rush Limburger.
quote=jolly1 Yep, you're right. All socialism is... (show quote)


Obama is a socialist based on what he says in his books and what he speaks on the audio versions. He doesn't say "I'm a socialist", he just expresses his admiration for the socialist ideology, Che Guevara, Chairman Mau, and Hugo Chavez. He rants about making the rich pay while he is one of the rich. Standard socialist party line. In socialism only the people in power are permitted to be rich.

Even socialists need to get money from somewhere hence his numerous capitalist sponsors.

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Jul 15, 2012 21:16:41   #
DEBJENROB Loc: DELRAY BEACH FL
 
ted45 wrote:
PNagy wrote:
jolly1 wrote:
Yep, you're right. All socialism is bad. Look at what Obama's brand of it is doing to the United States right now.


Obama a socialist? That is right wing lunacy. Obama is a mainstream bankrolled by major corporations. His number one corporate donor in 2008 was Goldman Sachs. Would a greed, thieving right ing organization such as that give large sums of money to a politician who is betraying them? It might help if you used some reason instead of accepting conclusions handed to you by the GOP, Fixed News, and Rush Limburger.
quote=jolly1 Yep, you're right. All socialism is... (show quote)


Obama is a socialist based on what he says in his books and what he speaks on the audio versions. He doesn't say "I'm a socialist", he just expresses his admiration for the socialist ideology, Che Guevara, Chairman Mau, and Hugo Chavez. He rants about making the rich pay while he is one of the rich. Standard socialist party line. In socialism only the people in power are permitted to be rich.

Even socialists need to get money from somewhere hence his numerous capitalist sponsors.
quote=PNagy quote=jolly1 Yep, you're right. All... (show quote)


Thats not socialism ... thats communism your describing .... also ... think of it ... Obama wants to raise his own taxes while Bush wanted and did lower his .... can you be anymore prolatarian than that .... isn't it refreshing .... Obama wants to pay more in taxes ....

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