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Dec 25, 2017 12:58:49   #
PeterSpanos
 
Thanks - I always avoid reading the manual but now that you mention it, I think you're right.

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Dec 25, 2017 13:51:22   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
The tendency of cameras using all AF brackets is to select the focus point. Perhaps the focus point selected by the camera is to your lickings, perhaps not.
I cannot discuss if more phase detection AF brackets is better because I do not really know but the cameras I am using right now, the D7000 and the D610 AF performance are doing a great job for me and they do not have a lot of phase detection sensors.
Sorry I cannot make any comments on Canon AF, I have not used Canon cameras except for a 30D years ago and the AF was primitive just to say the least.

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Dec 25, 2017 14:01:30   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
PeterSpanos wrote:
Thanks - I always avoid reading the manual but now that you mention it, I think you're right.


I think using a Sony camera with EVF and manually focusing using the red outline focus feature would do well. ( focus peaking)

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Dec 25, 2017 14:07:25   #
brooklyn-camera I Loc: Brooklyn, NY
 
Canon APSC 7D MKII 65 and all cross points.

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Dec 25, 2017 14:29:00   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Larrymc wrote:
Well they must be truly amazing "experts" and have better than 20/20 eyesight and have their diopter set perfectly.

Larry


I guess so as that is what is claimed by them on this forum.

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Dec 25, 2017 14:37:14   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
imagemeister wrote:
I think using a Sony camera with EVF and manually focusing using the red outline focus feature would do well. ( focus peaking)
- Of course, a fast f-stop lens helps !


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Dec 25, 2017 16:34:06   #
tenwork
 
I know that this has likely been addressed. However there is a easy answer to this question. More cross type focus points are better. I agree that I choose one focus point and recompose most of the time but there are clear exceptions. First when using my 85mm f1.2 lens, at wider open stops, this recompose technique produces a less than sharp image due to the very small depth of field, and the few inches of error that recomposing creates. So, understanding how to QUICKLY change your focus point, while framing the shot addresses this issue. Having more cross points allows a sharp focus across more of the sensor. I have a Canon 5DMk IV, and I can quickly toggle a different focus point as I compose a shot. Another reason is when focusing on a moving subject, (child) the one shot focus mode fails more photos than it gets, so using the servo mode, and having the camera follow a subject requieres many focus points, sometimes I wish I had more that 65 points.

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Dec 25, 2017 20:04:32   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
One can't have too many, that is as far as marketing departments go.
--Bob
tradio wrote:
How many FP's are needed? Is there a point where you have too many?

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Dec 25, 2017 21:22:22   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
rmalarz wrote:
One can't have too many, that is as far as marketing departments go.
--Bob


I'll second that motion!!!
Don't know how I ever got along with just old manual cameras!!! LoL
SS

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Dec 25, 2017 22:51:49   #
10MPlayer Loc: California
 
Architect1776 wrote:
And what chooses to focus on? The trees or the car?


Or whatever's closest like the dirt in the foreground. It must have some kind of smart technology to figure out what it thinks is the subject. There has to be more to it. I hope.

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Dec 26, 2017 12:16:44   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
PeterSpanos wrote:
Thanks - I always avoid reading the manual but now that you mention it, I think you're right.


If you click "quote reply" we can tell who you are responding to.

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Dec 26, 2017 12:34:56   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
PeterSpanos wrote:
Thanks - I always avoid reading the manual but now that you mention it, I think you're right.


Perhaps it's time you considered educating yourself. Not only is it more satisfying than getting all your information from others, but it's more likely to result in an accurate answer since many, if not most, people here don't know much more about your camera than you do.

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Dec 26, 2017 12:39:34   #
Jerrin1 Loc: Wolverhampton, England
 
sathca wrote:
I’ve had Nikon cameras since film and never even looked at Canon seiously. I recently came across a review of a Canon camera and was surprised to find out that their auto focus system has 45 cross type sensors while most Nikons only have 15. So how does Nikon still manage to rate so high? It would seem that the Canon auto focus would make the Nikon grossly inferior. What am I missing? Or is Nikon grossly inferior at auto focus


For many years I was a Canon user: my last two (I always have two camera bodies) were the 7D mark II and a 70D. I was really impressed with the autofocus on both. About 18 months ago I changed to a combination of Olympus and Nikon and doubt I will ever return to the Canon brand. The autofocus on my Nikon D500 is stunning and in my hands the autofocus if far superior to the 7D mark II. My EM1 mark II also appears to me to be superior. You need to compare like cameras in order to obtain a proper assessment. My current two cameras are the equivalent of the Canon 7D mark II and have a far greater number of sensors.

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Dec 26, 2017 13:00:48   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
10MPlayer wrote:
Or whatever's closest like the dirt in the foreground. It must have some kind of smart technology to figure out what it thinks is the subject. There has to be more to it. I hope.


Yes, there is a lot more to it than that.
Depends on what and how you set up.
Some cameras have face recognition and some have eye recoconition. Often focusing on the closest eye or face.
Or on moving subjects(dirt/trees do not move). Including if the tracked subject crosses other obstacles like other people or trees, the computer can recognize the contrast pattern it's following and continue to track it even when other objects momentarily cross it path like other player or trees etc.
setting focus systems up properly for what and how you shoot is key!
SS

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Dec 27, 2017 06:05:08   #
Lowrider Loc: Kennesaw, GA
 
As I understand it, when shooting moving subjects, if you get even one of the 45 or 51 focal points on the subject, you will maintain focus. Seems like an advantage to me IF, you are zoomed out enough to contain the subject within the frame unless you are, for example, shooting at just the head of a bird and intend to crop later.

Here you go. If you cant believe Canon who can you believe??? http://learn.usa.canon.com/resources/articles/2016/eos-80D/eos80D-AF.shtml

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