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Dec 22, 2017 11:19:48   #
Tom G Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
dirtpusher wrote:
Do they think


Based on what they say and do, I often wonder.

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Dec 22, 2017 17:25:55   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Tom G wrote:
Be nice, DP; education is not necessarily commensurate with intelligence.

Many of the Trump supporters are intelligent, but they don't have the interest to think analytical.


Yeah! Right! Please....

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Dec 22, 2017 18:37:02   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
[quote=Blurryeyed]Yeah! Right! Please....[/quote

You don't ev n know wat it mean

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Dec 22, 2017 19:12:54   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
dirtpusher wrote:
Blurryeyed wrote:
Yeah! Right! Please....

DINGDONG You don't ev n know wat it mean


I can read your writing, that alone speaks to what I am capable of.

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Dec 22, 2017 19:35:39   #
Yankeepapa6 Loc: New York City
 
PAR4DCR wrote:
I agree with you. The same happened to me and my wife. Welcome to the GOP era.

Don


SocialSecurity was never meant to be your only source of retirement income. It was designed to supplement your retirement. Where was your complaint 7-8 years ago??

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Dec 23, 2017 00:53:00   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
My source material is the statement provided to my mother from Social Security, the government has flooded the web and news agencies with denial, but a simple reading of the earnings and deduction statements sent out to SS recipients tells a different story, she banks less after her raises than she did before, significantly less than a few years ago... That $716 billion dollars that Obamacare took from the Medicare budget was not all about savings as the government said it would be.


So your source is your mom? And you are expecting us to ignore all of the information in the public record because your mom says so?

Actually, you were responding to the OP that noted that the current Medicare premium wiped out the SS COLA by saying that the root cause is that the ACA caused the price of the various Supplemental plans to increase.

I know you and your Mom don't agree with this but the fact is that the premiums were for Part B, not any of the supplemental plans. The problem is that health care costs continue to rise and that has nothing to do with Obama, as much as you would like to blame him for everything.

If you are really oissed off about the cost of health care, then take that up with the Republicans who wrote into the law that established Part D that Medicare is forbidden from using their vast purchasing power to negotiate for lower drug prices.

THAT was nothing less than a blow job for Big Pharma and both taxpayers and Medicare recipients pay for it because the Republicans know what exactly which side of the bread is buttered. I would provide you links but you have already told me that the web is full of lies, so why bother? We in the fact based world really have nothing to offer you.

Let us know if your mom changes her mind.

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Dec 23, 2017 03:49:30   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Bazbo wrote:
So your source is your mom? And you are expecting us to ignore all of the information in the public record because your mom says so?

Actually, you were responding to the OP that noted that the current Medicare premium wiped out the SS COLA by saying that the root cause is that the ACA caused the price of the various Supplemental plans to increase.

I know you and your Mom don't agree with this but the fact is that the premiums were for Part B, not any of the supplemental plans. The problem is that health care costs continue to rise and that has nothing to do with Obama, as much as you would like to blame him for everything.

If you are really oissed off about the cost of health care, then take that up with the Republicans who wrote into the law that established Part D that Medicare is forbidden from using their vast purchasing power to negotiate for lower drug prices.

THAT was nothing less than a blow job for Big Pharma and both taxpayers and Medicare recipients pay for it because the Republicans know what exactly which side of the bread is buttered. I would provide you links but you have already told me that the web is full of lies, so why bother? We in the fact based world really have nothing to offer you.

Let us know if your mom changes her mind.
So your source is your mom? And you are expecting ... (show quote)


No dumbass, my mother is 90 years old and I read any important correspondence for her. You can read and say anything you want the media never did and still does not report fairly regarding Obamacare, they simply take the former administrations line as fact without much regard to reality. They are still reporting that the $716 billion cut from the budget really had no impact on seniors themselves, I am telling you that is bullshit. The facts are pretty simple for anyone receiving Social Security, the raises in Social Security have been accompanied by increased deductions for Medicare options.

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Dec 23, 2017 07:23:33   #
Yankeepapa6 Loc: New York City
 
Bazbo wrote:
So your source is your mom? And you are expecting us to ignore all of the information in the public record because your mom says so?

Actually, you were responding to the OP that noted that the current Medicare premium wiped out the SS COLA by saying that the root cause is that the ACA caused the price of the various Supplemental plans to increase.

I know you and your Mom don't agree with this but the fact is that the premiums were for Part B, not any of the supplemental plans. The problem is that health care costs continue to rise and that has nothing to do with Obama, as much as you would like to blame him for everything.

If you are really oissed off about the cost of health care, then take that up with the Republicans who wrote into the law that established Part D that Medicare is forbidden from using their vast purchasing power to negotiate for lower drug prices.

THAT was nothing less than a blow job for Big Pharma and both taxpayers and Medicare recipients pay for it because the Republicans know what exactly which side of the bread is buttered. I would provide you links but you have already told me that the web is full of lies, so why bother? We in the fact based world really have nothing to offer you.

Let us know if your mom changes her mind.
So your source is your mom? And you are expecting ... (show quote)


How do we know your mom is telling the truth?? No one has said for sure they are cutting Social Security. When and by whom was that ever said?? Your "fact-based" world that you alleged to be true is because it caters to your prejudices, your bigotry, your biases your intolerance.

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Dec 23, 2017 07:48:03   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Yankeepapa6 wrote:
How do we know your mom is telling the truth?? No one has said for sure they are cutting Social Security. When and by whom was that ever said?? Your "fact-based" world that you alleged to be true is because it caters to your prejudices, your bigotry, your biases your intolerance.


Trump said he going to go after SS an Medicare

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Dec 23, 2017 12:27:38   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
Yankeepapa6 wrote:
How do we know your mom is telling the truth?? No one has said for sure they are cutting Social Security. When and by whom was that ever said?? Your "fact-based" world that you alleged to be true is because it caters to your prejudices, your bigotry, your biases your intolerance.


Do try to keep up. I wasn't offering my mom as a source. Direct the question to Blurry. I would never enter a brain fart forum like this leaning on my mom as a source.

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Dec 23, 2017 12:30:06   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Bazbo wrote:
Do try to keep up. I wasn't offering my mom as a source. Direct the question to Blurry. I would never enter a brain fart forum like this leaning on my mom as a source.


He just upset. He never knew his mother

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Dec 23, 2017 12:31:20   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
No dumbass, my mother is 90 years old and I read any important correspondence for her. You can read and say anything you want the media never did and still does not report fairly regarding Obamacare, they simply take the former administrations line as fact without much regard to reality. They are still reporting that the $716 billion cut from the budget really had no impact on seniors themselves, I am telling you that is bullshit. The facts are pretty simple for anyone receiving Social Security, the raises in Social Security have been accompanied by increased deductions for Medicare options.
No dumbass, my mother is 90 years old and I read a... (show quote)


Cheap name calling aside, do you have sources other than yiur mom and your own hyper inflated opinion of your opinions? Also care to comment on yiur inaccurate assertions about the supplemental plans or would you rather just squirm away from that?

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Dec 23, 2017 12:55:42   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
GeneS wrote:
The GOP's new tax bill gives everyone some sort of tax relief, Or so I'm told.
What about us seniors on Social Security?
The last two years we received a cost of living raise in our checks !!!!!!!!, did we?
Last year and again this year my wife got a raise in her Social Security, Then received
an increase in what they with hold for Medicare of exactly what the raise is.
That's a cost of living raise?
Last year I received a cost of living raise.
Last year my raise was exactly what my increase in Medicare was. I made out this
year. Another cost of living raise, But the Medicare payment is raised all but $2.00
of what my raise is.
They only give seniors about a 2% raise if the cost of living is up 3% anyway.
Gee is this why more and more seniors can't pay for food and meds the same month?
Now coming up on the agenda is saving on the Social Security cost.
Making Seniors pay tax on their S.S. benefits, and cutting the raise in benefits
HELP.
The GOP's new tax bill gives everyone some sort of... (show quote)

What anyone pays in federal taxes depends upon total income, regardless of source, less deductions. The brackets and percentage due has been reduced across all, incomes. As a result over 80% of americans (elderly included) will see a reduction in taxes due. While the elderly(I am one) will get a tax break, they should not get a special rate, by virtue of staying alive.

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Dec 23, 2017 14:55:30   #
Yankeepapa6 Loc: New York City
 
dirtpusher wrote:
He just upset. He never knew his mother


I understand when you were born your mother handed you the phone book and said pick out your father.

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